The French Navy Stands Up to China

[gambit]

LOL. Since when aircraft carrier can guarantee winning against submarine and destroyer?

Show me a navy that does not want one.

China's H-6K: The 'Old' Bomber That Could 'Sink' the U.S. Navy
http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/chinas-h-6k-the-old-bomber-could-sink-the-us-navy-25913

The operative word is 'could'. Not would. Learn to comprehend what you read.

We never knew that CHinese fart so loud when they see US or French or Indian navy.

Scared the gas out of them. Next would be the shit.

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

In what way Horizon class radar and mmb40 exocet is more sophisticated than 052D's AESA AN/SPY-3 and ASM YJ-12?

Type 052D is comparable to US Aegis Arleigh Burke, but their radar is more advanced (AESA). France's horizon class and her other destroyers are no match to 052D or Arleigh Burke.

YJ-12 is more advanced than Exocet it's speed could reach mach 4 and almost 400km range, it is one of US Navy's major concern. Not to mention HQ-9, HQ-19 that 052D bring.

https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/china/cm-302.htm

052D =/= Arleigh Burke.

YJ-12 are easily detected & have less destructive power compared to Exocet or the american Tomahawk. Long range missile strike are the soviet navy forte. NATO Countries are well aware of such tactics & have already developed countermeasure with better air defense & stealthier ships.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Actually it's an humiliation for China that small countries like France and Britain are able to give a middle finger to their territorial "claims". Let alone the US. @Hamartia Antidote @F-22Raptor

You can always have another round of laughs at China’s expense by selling Taiwan some more French fighter jets. I think their current Mirage fleet could be expanded with some newer models. Apparently they are not very interested in buying China’s unreliable planes...even though apparently they are a “province” of China.

Plus maybe you can land a few at Tainan Air Force Base and have the local air crew give you a thumbs up like they did to the US 3 years ago.

The Chinese members on here actually thought the Taiwanese were going to chop up the planes!
LOL!!

 

[xunzi]

052D =/= Arleigh Burke.

YJ-12 are easily detected & have less destructive power compared to Exocet or the american Tomahawk. Long range missile strike are the soviet navy forte. NATO Countries are well aware of such tactics & have already developed countermeasure with better air defense & stealthier ships.

Do you have proof of the explosive yield and easily detected or something you pull out of your ***? LOL

No, defeating France is a piece of cake. In 1vs1 they have NO CHANCE. They simply don't have the industrial power to mass produce weapon in time of war like we do. It's simple logic. Only the US can match our industrial military weapon making in time of war.

 

[antonius123]

Show me a navy that does not want one.

LOL. Carrier can be defeated by submarine doesn't mean "unwanted".

What a logic

The operative word is 'could'. Not would. Learn to comprehend what you read.

Doesn't matter. A regiment of H-6K with ALCM could destroy US Navy, means could destroy France Navy much more easily.

Could here means: have great potential.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

You can always have another round of laughs at China’s expense by selling Taiwan some more French fighter jets. I think their current Mirage fleet could be expanded with some newer models. Apparently they are not very interested in buying China’s planes.

Plus maybe you can land a few at Tainan Air Force Base and have the local air crew give you a thumbs up like they did to the US 3 years ago.

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The Chinese members on here actually thought the Taiwanese were going to chop up the planes!
LOL!!

No one wants to laugh at their own future funeral, China might not have option to reciprocate for now doesn't mean that we can't in the future: You should remember of the after match of two US carriers sail across of Taiwan strait which push China determination to acquire aircraft carrier and develop DF-21D, crisis is equal to opportunity for China. If China really want to piss US off, we can transfer the drone and weapon technology to Mexico and Cuba, offer them some military incentive package, make a strong Mexico and Cuba is certainly in China's interest as well as a strong south America...but we're not yet there to openly antagonize US as for what they did in Taiwan.

For now China is observing US's actions in Pacific ....I should say with great interest.

 

[xunzi]

It's a freaking joke to suggest France can defeat the PLAN in SCS. In what way? They got only 1 AC and in which just one DF-21 can sink to the bottom and the SCS is a shallow water which is optimal for small, quiet, highly maneuverable submarine like the Yuan class submarine to operate. Those are the real killer in a naval battle which can sink pretty much all of France ships. And I'm not even going to talk about jamming and cutting off communication system of the France with China one of the top 3 hacker country in the world.

Even Germany can conquer France. and historically they were always the weakest power in Europe.

Actually it's an humiliation for China that small countries like France and Britain are able to give a middle finger to their territorial "claims". Let alone the US. @Hamartia Antidote @F-22Raptor

LOL if you think we are humiliate by this little game, you know very little about about long term strategic thinking. We are not that dumb to not expect this type of response. As a matter of fact, you are falling into our trap.

As our navy is getting bigger and more powerful, expect all ocean of the world to see a PLAN ship in the near future. This "freedom of navigation" is actually what we should preach in the future. So remember this "freedom of navigation". We shall test it when our ship roam across the world sea and ocean like 20-30 years when 6 AC are completed and fully operational full-time.

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

Do you have proof of the explosive yield and easily detected or something you pull out of your ***? LOL

No, defeating France is a piece of cake. In 1vs1 they have NO CHANCE. They simply don't have the industrial power to mass produce weapon in time of war like we do. It's simple logic. Only the US can match our industrial military weapon making in time of war.

Warsaw Pact's navy used supersonic missiles it has been reported that supersonic missile have less destructive power than subsonic one, easily detected & have less accuracy. Hence why the US & other NATO countries didn't use supersonic missiles in their navy. This is the navy takes on this not me.

All France have to do is build more Exocets to sunk chinese ships.

 

[Daniel808]

052D =/= Arleigh Burke.

YJ-12 are easily detected & have less destructive power compared to Exocet or the american Tomahawk. Long range missile strike are the soviet navy forte. NATO Countries are well aware of such tactics & have already developed countermeasure with better air defense & stealthier ships.

Give me data and technical sheet, that YJ-12 is less destructive than Exocet?

And why you compare YJ-12 Anti Ship Missile with Tomahawk????????????????
Tomahawk is a CRUISE MISSILE not Anti Ship Missile. if you want to bring tomahawk than compare it with DF-10A Cruise Missile.

Why compare Cruise missile with Anti Ship missile?
That show you know nothing about military matters !

 

[antonius123]

052D =/= Arleigh Burke.

Do you know both 052D and Arleigh Burke are AEGIS type, and have approximately comparable performance? AB wins on fire power but 052D win on AESA radar.

YJ-12 are easily detected & have less destructive power compared to Exocet or the american Tomahawk. Long range missile strike are the soviet navy forte. NATO Countries are well aware of such tactics & have already developed countermeasure with better air defense & stealthier ships.

It seems you are an ignorant guy who like to play with careless and bias assumption

Do you know:

• Warhead: YJ-12 500kg vs Exocet 165 kg => YJ-12 win by far
• Max Speed: YJ-12 mach 4 vs Exocet mach 0.92 => again YJ-12 win by far
• Max Range: YJ-12 400km vs Exocet 180km => again YJ-12 win by far
• Both YJ-12 and Exocet are sea-skimming, and not stealthy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YJ-12
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exocet

That means: YJ-12 is superior than Exocet by far, and it is YJ-12 that is much more difficult to detect than exocet considering supersonic speed.

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

Give me data and technical sheet, that YJ-12 is less destructive than Exocet?

And why you compare YJ-12 Anti Ship Missile with Tomahawk????????????????
Tomahawk is a CRUISE MISSILE not Anti Ship Missile. if you want to bring tomahawk than compare it with DF-10A Cruise Missile.

Why compare Cruise missile with Anti Ship missile?
That show you know nothing about military matters !

The power of Indon IQ nowadays

I meant to say harpoon. Whoops.

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

It seems you are an ignorant guy who like to play with careless and bias assumption [emoji38]

Do you know:

• Warhead: YJ-12 500kg vs Exocet 165 kg => YJ-12 win by far
• Max Speed: YJ-12 mach 4 vs Exocet mach 0.92 => again YJ-12 win by far
• Max Range: YJ-12 400km vs Exocet 180km => again YJ-12 win by far
• Both YJ-12 and Exocet are sea-skimming, and not stealthy

View attachment 482425
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YJ-12
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exocet

That means: YJ-12 is superior than Exocet by far, and it is YJ-12 that is much more difficult to detect than exocet considering supersonic speed.

Look up [emoji115]

 

[Daniel808]

It's a freaking joke to suggest France can defeat the PLAN in SCS. In what way? They got only 1 AC and in which just one DF-21 can sink to the bottom and the SCS is a shallow water which is optimal for small, quiet, highly maneuverable submarine like the Yuan class submarine to operate. Those are the real killer in a naval battle which can sink pretty much all of France ships. And I'm not even going to talk about jamming and cutting off communication system of the France with China one of the top 3 hacker country in the world.

Even Germany can conquer France. and historically they were always the weakest power in Europe.


LOL if you think we are humiliate by this little game, you know very little about about long term strategic thinking. We are not that dumb to not expect this type of response. As a matter of fact, you are falling into our trap.

As our navy is getting bigger and more powerful, expect all ocean of the world to see a PLAN ship in the near future. This "freedom of navigation" is actually what we should preach in the future. So remember this "freedom of navigation". We shall test it when our ship roam across the world sea and ocean like 20-30 years when 6 AC are completed and fully operational full-time.

Yes, it's a joke by stupid people.

Compare a navy that only have 4 Destroyer with 35 Modern Destroyers, 11 Frigate with 51 Frigates, 0 Corvette with 36 Corvettes
WTF ?!?!?!?!

If we talk about Destroyer itself, China with their huge Replenishment Naval Forces can easily Deploy much more than 4 Destroyer to compete with frenchy navy, even in the seas far from China and closer to frenchy land

Not including many 13,000 Tonnes Type 055 Cruisers with their 112 VLS that will join China's Navy Battle Fleet in the next year

 

[antonius123]

Look up [emoji115]

What to look up??? All of your argument proved to be terribly wrong!

You only outburst stupidity due to ignorance with careless & bias assumption, admit it!

Exocet is inferior compared to YJ-12, and I am talking with data. Harpoon is comparable to exocet and same inferior compared to YJ-12

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harpoon_(missile)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exocet
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YJ-12

Horizon class and other French destroyer has very little chance to survive against Type 052D, not to mention china's anti access weapon.

 

[Daniel808]

Do you know both 052D and Arleigh Burke are AEGIS type, and have approximately comparable performance? AB wins on fire power but 052D win on AESA radar.




It seems you are an ignorant guy who like to play with careless and bias assumption

Do you know:

• Warhead: YJ-12 500kg vs Exocet 165 kg => YJ-12 win by far
• Max Speed: YJ-12 mach 4 vs Exocet mach 0.92 => again YJ-12 win by far
• Max Range: YJ-12 400km vs Exocet 180km => again YJ-12 win by far
• Both YJ-12 and Exocet are sea-skimming, and not stealthy

View attachment 482425
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YJ-12
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exocet

That means: YJ-12 is superior than Exocet by far, and it is YJ-12 that is much more difficult to detect than exocet considering supersonic speed.

What to look up??? All of your argument proved to be terribly wrong!

You only outburst stupidity due to ignorance and careless & bias assumption, admit it!

Exocet is inferior compared to YJ-12, and I am talking with data. Harpoon is comparable to exocet and same inferior compared to YJ-12

View attachment 482427
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harpoon_(missile)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exocet
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YJ-12

Horizon class and other French destroyer has very little chance to survive against Type 052D, not to mention china's anti access weapon.

Very informative explanation, my friend @antonius123

Busted this troller so much @Reashot Xigwin oppss