The Fight against PKK Terrorism

[Hakan]

Welcome,

English please.

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Apparently HDP buildings have been ransacked across much of Turkey

 

[Timur]

this person is insulting a religious minority in Turkey and spreading sectarian hatred, this thread is about a very sensitive topic in Turkey and we certainly dont need such people here.

while insulting a religious minority is a sin .. insulting a religious majority is ok.. we all should not insult any groub of us

to the topic..

You must find a political solution and of course some painful agreements

why dont you find a political soulution with al qaida (freedom fighter) and isis (a not acknowledged state) ... the whole wrong debate about peace process is BS.. you cannot have peace with terrorists.. and you wont even consider to make peace with al qaida but you try to make us to think about peace with pkk.. this is disrespect in my eyes against me, my folk, my presidet and my homeland..


the only thing that should be done is more force more force..
also we should consider to arm groups in iraq/syria against PKK
we need special laws and special prisons..
HDP must be taken down and put in those prisons no talk to outside no one leaves..
we need a stupid wall and a big big minefield (I give a fart as an answer on those who are against it..)

no police should have be asked why he is defending our country or himself

take our enemies down everywhere it does not matter if it is in our land or abroad

 

[Alienoz_TR]

My point of view is, that Turkey want to join PKK in a political integration process. Which is not a bad idea. If you are part of the establishment you want not push requirement with force. Everything is better as than what Turkey has now. You must find a political solution and of course some painful agreements.

PKK is a terrorist organisation which supplied by western countries through KRG.

No political solution till they surrender and hand over their weapons. Since western countries continue their support, no easy solution on the horizon.

 

[bsruzm]

Welcome,

English please.

You welcome such thing? Unbelievable. It is a German b*stard, who serves PKK, in Turkish clothing.
I will surely say it is a daily posting troll here, who pretends, spreads disinformation and destroys Turkish section of PDF.
I have told you to find a solution for such people and now @xxxKULxxx is gone, actually a lot contributing respectful people are gone.
@xxxKULxxx was right in his stance, some people are extremely annoying and disrespectful, what makes you feel at some point that they are no longer talking but barking imo.

''I am keeping my eyes out for people who are here creating problems with political and religious discussions. If you are here to discuss those topics this is the wrong place for you. I will ban you from this section if you don't contribute to the military topics and only derail threads with provocative statements. We have 1 thread for political discussions, discuss what you want there. We can't allow people to drive down the quality, you are scaring off the experts.''

Here, nothing against Neptune but he has posted a political article in a thread related DZKK then I naturally responded but instead removing his article to a politics related thread, you have deleted my responding posts that insults or harms no one.
Now may I ask you why? I know his off-topic posts are also deleted but hopefully, you come with a good reason on my deleted posts otherwise I will think that you are biased and lacking Justice because that off-topic article still stands.
Here I quoted the article:

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Şimdilerde özellikle iktidar medyası, “TSK'ya bu kumpas niye kuruldu?” diye soruyor. Elbette ki, bal gibi biliyorlar, ama itiraf etmek zor geliyor. Çünkü elbirliğiyle işledikleri suç büyük.



Bilmezden gelenler değil, gerçekten bilmeyenler için tekrar vurgulayalım. TSK'ya kumpasın bir değil, çok sebebi var. Toplam hedefi de Türkiye Cumhuriyeti Devleti'nin yok edilmesidir.

“Büyük Kürdistan”projesinin hayata geçirilebilmesi, o sebeplerden biridir mesela.

Irak'taki parçayı hallettiler. Parası, bankası, sözde “ordusu”bile var. Son olarak Türkiye'nin yeşil ışık yakmasıyla, Irak merkezi hükümetinden bağımsız olarak petrol ihracatına başlama kararı aldılar.

Suriye parçası da hemen hemen tamam... IŞİD-PYD kuklalarıyla, Türkiye'yi Suriye“Kürdistanı” konusunda da iyice esnetmek için zamana oynuyorlar sadece.

Doğu-Güneydoğu'da“alan hâkimiyetinin”kime teslim edildiğini söylemeye gerek yok.

Peki, en azından“Barzanistan”ın“bağımsızlık” ilânı için daha ne bekleniyor?

Emperyalistler her daim açık açık söyledi;“Denize açılmayan bir Kürdistan yaşamaz”diye...

İŞTE ONU BEKLİYORLAR

O denizin anahtarı mı; Tabii ki, Kıbrıs...

“Barzanistan”ın temellerini atan ABD'nin Irak'ı işgâliyle, Kıbrıs'ta Annan Planı dayatmalarının eş zamanlı olması tesadüf müydü?

Ya şimdi, tüm gözler Suriye'deki “Kürt koridoruna”çevrilmişken, Cumhurbaşkanı seçilmesini tüm emperyalistlerin ayakta alkışladığı Mustafa Akıncı'nın Rumlarla, Türkiye'nin garantörlüğü dahil her konuyu görüşmek üzere masaya oturmuş olması?

2004'teki Annan Planı'na Türkler “evet” derken, Rumların “hayır”ı herkesi şaşırttı. Oysa o planla, 5-10 yıl içinde KKTC'yi ekonomik ve siyasi açıdan yutabileceklerdi.

Ama ezeli bir korkuları vardı; Türkiye'nin garantörlüğü ve adada Türk askerinin varlığı... KKTC'yi yutsalar da bu iki konu halledilmeden, kuzeyin kendilerine yar olmayacağını biliyorlardı.

İşte gelinen nokta; Arkalarında ABD, AB, İsrail, Rusya, Mısır, Yunanistan, İtalya, Fransa; Masada da Türkiye'nin garantörlüğünün ortadan kaldırılması ve Türk askerinin “tıpış tıpış” gönderilmesi var.

Suriye'den, Doğu Akdeniz'e uzatılan koridorla paralel yürüyen Kıbrıs'taki bu gelişmeleri niye kimse konuşmuyor?

KUMPAS İŞTE BUNUN İÇİN KURULDU

TSK'ya niye mi kumpas kuruldu? Şu örneğe, Genelkurmay bünyesinde kurulu Kıbrıs ve Yunanistan dairelerinde görev yapan subayların başına gelenlere ne dersiniz?

1996 Kardak krizinden sonra kurulan Kıbrıs Daire Başkanlığının personeli, ağırlıklı olarak denizci kurmay subaylardı.

İlk başkan Tümamiral Mustafa Özbey 28 Şubat davası sanığı oldu... Sonrakilerden Tümamiral Özer Karabulut Balyoz, Koramiral Kadir Sağdıç Balyoz ve Poyrazköy, Tümamiral Mücahit Şişlioğlu, Tümamiral Semih Çetin ile Tümamiral Fikret Güneş de Balyoz'dan tutuklandı.

Bu listeden Sağdıç ve Şişlioğlu arasında yer alan tek bir isim kurtulabildi; Şu anki Deniz Kuvvetleri Komutanı Oramiral Bülent Bostanoğlu...

YA YUNANİSTAN MASASI

Burada görev yapan Tümamiral Deniz Kutluk, Albay Ümit Metin, Albay Ali Türkşen ve Albay Hüseyin Hançer Balyoz, Poyrazköy, Amirallere Suikast kumpaslarıyla derdest edildi.

Geçen hafta kaybettiğimiz Donanma'nın altın amirali Cem Aziz Çakmak'ı da unutmayalım. Önce Deniz Kuvvetleri Komutanlığı Güney Görev Grubu Kurmay Başkanı, ardından Harekat Eğitim Daire Başkanı olarak Rumların Doğu Akdeniz'de petrol arama faaliyetlerine az engellemedi.

Rumların Doğu Akdeniz'de at koşturması, Balyoz sayesinde ve sonrasında olmadı mı?

Geçen hafta Rum Meclis Başkanı Yannakis Omiru konuştu; İngiltere'den garantörlük hakkından vazgeçmesinin istenmesi gerektiğini söyledi. Türkiye'yle ilgili olarak da, “AB üyesi olmayan bir ülke, AB üyesi ülkenin bağımsızlık, egemenlik ve toprak bütünlüğünü garanti mi etsin?” dedi.

KKTC Lideri Mustafa Akıncı ve Rum Lider Anastasiadis arasında devam eden müzakereler kapsamında, Eylül veya Ekim ayında yapılacak uluslararası bir konferansla garantörlük konusunun görüşülmesinin kararlaştırıldığı bildiriliyor.

Yalın gerçek şudur; Türkiye'nin Kıbrıs'taki garantörlük hakkından vazgeçmesi, sadece Doğu Akdeniz'in kaybedilmesi değil, eş zamanlı “Büyük Kürdistan” projesinin tamamlanması olacaktır.

2002 sonunda dönemin ABD Başkan Yardımcısı Dick Cheney, dönemin Başbakanı Abdullah Gül'ün önüne, “Irak'ın işgâli ve Annan Planını”koyduğunda, Gül,“İkisini birden bu millete kabul ettiremeyiz” demişti.

Şimdilerde görünürde IŞİD'le mücadele gerekçesiyle İncirlik'in kullanımı pazarlıkları, Türkiye'nin Suriye'ye müdahalesi vs. konuşuluyor.

Gerçekte dayatılan, Suriye “Kürdistanı” ve Kıbrıs'ın terkini Türk Milleti'ne hazmettirme olmasın?!.

13 yıldır“aldatıldıklarını”,ama artık “üst akılla”mücadele ettiklerini söyleyenlerin boyunun ölçüsünü gösterecek en hayati sınav budur!..

(TCG Yavuz Gemisi... Tarih 20 Mayıs 2007... Yer Kıbrıs'ın güneydoğusunda icra edilen tatbikat. TCG Yavuz'un köprü üstündekiler (soldan sağa) : Dz. Kur. Yarbay Yavuz Uras (Gemi Komutanı), Dz. Kur. Kd. Alb. Cem Aziz Çakmak (Güney Görev Kurmay Başkanı), Tuğa. Mücahit Şişlioğlu (Güney Görev Grup Komutanı), Dz. Kur. Kd. Bnb. Özdem Koçer (Gemi ikinci komutanı)... Hepsi de Balyoz kurbanı oldu...)


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[xenon54 out]

while insulting a religious minority is a sin .. insulting a religious majority is ok.. we all should not insult any groub of us

Im against insulting be it againt minority or majority, that being said, people with the same mindset like this person did horrible things in Turkey in the past, you know what i mean.

PKK bastards heads are crying at live broadcast and requesting help from international community/public. Around 1500 PKK members are backed into corner at S. East cities. Turkish army cut the electricity/communication infrastructure and totally closed the exits and waiting for a terorist massacre. It is in final times. PKK head is crying for help in their media organizations. Perfect Hunting will commence in a short time. I want to see min 1000 of them on ground inşallah !

His crying is music in my ears, did they think they can spread terrorism on Turkish soil and get away with it?

 

[Hakan]

You welcome such thing? Unbelievable. It is a German b*stard, who serves PKK, in Turkish clothing.
I will surely say it is a daily posting troll here, who pretends, spreads disinformation and destroys Turkish section of PDF.
I have told you to find a solution for such people and now @xxxKULxxx is gone, actually a lot contributing respectful people are gone.
@xxxKULxxx was right in his stance, some people are extremely annoying and disrespectful, what makes you feel at some point that they are no longer talking but barking imo.

''I am keeping my eyes out for people who are here creating problems with political and religious discussions. If you are here to discuss those topics this is the wrong place for you. I will ban you from this section if you don't contribute to the military topics and only derail threads with provocative statements. We have 1 thread for political discussions, discuss what you want there. We can't allow people to drive down the quality, you are scaring off the experts.''

In case you haven't noticed some people are banned from this thread. I banned 2 fake accounts last couple days. I can not be on here 7/24, I do not get anything out of this, I have been trying to get a new mod for months, they tell just stay and do what you can. I can not even enjoy this forum and contribute in discussions because I have no time and the time I have I have to waste it with enforcing rules. I think I will leave to, I have a busy life and this is a head ache.

See you all later, have fun with the Iranians.

 

[bsruzm]

In case you haven't noticed some people are banned from this thread. I banned 2 fake accounts last couple days. I can not be on here 7/24, I do not get anything out of this, I have been trying to get a new mod for months, they tell just stay and do what you can. I can not even enjoy this forum and contribute in discussions because I have no time and the time I have I have to waste it with enforcing rules. I think I will leave to, I have a busy life and this is a head ache.

See you all later, have fun with the Iranians.

Man, I see it and I respect your duty but still it's a duty. Last time I tagged you to a thread where a lot were trolling then beacuse I see your situation I deleted it and ignored trolling people.
You will leave, too? See...
Anyways, I have said those because you are still the mod.

 

[xenon54 out]

In case you haven't noticed some people are banned from this thread. I banned 2 fake accounts last couple days. I can not be on here 7/24, I do not get anything out of this, I have been trying to get a new mod for months, they tell just stay and do what you can. I can not even enjoy this forum and contribute in discussions because I have no time and the time I have I have to waste it with enforcing rules. I think I will leave to, I have a busy life and this is a head ache.

See you all later, have fun with the Iranians.

Bro im not gonna convince you again to stay as Mod, i have no right to ask you again for a duty you are tired of, you are right people are ungrateful, why should you waste your time and moral because of people who cant behave.
Give up your postion but stay here and post whenever you have time, Turkish section is fvcked up anyway, now without you it will be a unbearable place, maybe then they will appreciate your work.

 

[bsruzm]

''Kurdish Gerdi tribe, who has 65.000 members decided to take stance against PKK, HDP and declared their support to state in it's fight against terrorism''
Gerdi Aşireti, PKK ile ilgili karar aldı! - GÜNCEL Haberleri

 

[Hindustani78]

People march to protest against terrorism during the funeral of Turkish army officer Tolga Artug in his hometown of Turgutlu, Manisa, Turkey.

Thousands of people march to protest against the deadly attacks on Turkish troops, in Istanbul, Turkey.

 

[TongYabgu]

Bölge de askerlik yapan bir tanıdığım Dağlıca saldırısından beridir devam eden operasyonlarda 300 teröristin öldüğünü söyledi bana.

81 ilde 1 yıllık genelge dağıtılmış bu süre de kararlılıkla üstüne gidilecek ve bitmese bile büyük oranda çökertilecektir.

Kendi TV kanallarında ağlayan heriften de bu anlaşılıyor.

Barış barış diye anırmalarının sebebi de budur

 

[cabatli_53]

Bölge de askerlik yapan bir tanıdığım Dağlıca saldırısından beridir devam eden operasyonlarda 300 teröristin öldüğünü söyledi bana.

81 ilde 1 yıllık genelge dağıtılmış bu süre de kararlılıkla üstüne gidilecek ve bitmese bile büyük oranda çökertilecektir.

Kendi TV kanallarında ağlayan heriften de bu anlaşılıyor.

Barış barış diye anırmalarının sebebi de budur

Kendi stratejilerinde boğulacaklar inşallah. Şehirlere yığınak yapıp, siperler kazıp büyük bir direnişle ele geçirme planları yapmışlardı ve kısmen de etkili oldu Cizre, Silopi gibi bazı ilçelerde fakat tahmin edemedikleri mevzu kısmi OHAL ile TSK/POH şehirlerin giriş çıkışlarını tamamen kapatıp pusuya yattı. Zırlayan herifin demesine bakılacak olursa 200'ün üstünde militan Cizre vb bölgelerde sıkıştı şuan. Halk zor durumda gerekçesiyle bölgeye gitmeye çalışan HDP heyetinin de amacı aslında PKK'ya nefes aldırmayı amaçlıyor gibi fakat müsade edilmeyecek kesinlikle. Ya skıştıkları şehirlerde teslim olacaklar veya tamamen yok olup gidecekler çember daralıyor. Artık operasyon yetkisi de tamamen TSK'da. Istediği anda istediği şekilde vuracak !

 

[cabatli_53]

PKK changes strategy and Turkey as well. From what is being told, They learnt some skills from Kobani and want to apply same things in Turkey. They have firstly stocked munition in cities and want to pull Turkish Army inside of cities in order to benefit to be around the civilians.

An example !

Actually, It is an advantage for us because Turkish Army applied a new strategy to PKK immediately. Firstly, Turkish army/POH killed 1000+ terorists in hot clashes, then designated their new weapon stocks in cities and surrounded all enter/exits of cities. All electricity, internet connections, TV broadcasts are blocked in related cities and radio communications are also cut thanks to jammers. Soldiers and special forces all are around the cities now waiting for action, While remote controlled weapon stations placed on armoured vehicles are doing perfect from long ranges.

PKK is such an incapable position against new strategy of TSK that their heads are requesting help from outsiders to prevent a likely "massacre" to be direct to hundreds of their militants positioned in cities. Cowards die many times before their deaths. They know their ends very well from now !

BMC delivered 620 Kirpi MRAP to TLF. Around 200 Otokar Ural + Nurol Yalçın + BMC Vuran will also be delivered to Police but Aselsan made SARP remote controlled weapon stations should be installed on every military vehicles produced.

BMC Kirpi

Otokar Ural

Nurol Yalçın+SArp

+ SARP (Real terrorist hunter)

The importance of T-129 Atak helicopters will be vital. In accordance with schedule, TAI must deliver 12 T129B to TLF in this year. With new delivery, The total number of Ataks in TLC will be 21 + 10 AH-1W. Ataks equipped with Cirit+20mm munitions will be more than enough to wipe terrorists from their caves.

In terms of surveillance, TAF has tactical UAV's which is enough against PKK but not have much for strategic class. Anka will be delivered in 2017 (first package) and The Israeli control stations allow operators to control up to 3 Heron UAV's so We can't send ten Herons to mission simultaneously.

Bayraktar TB-2

The operations and PKK hidden places are being monitored clearly thanks to latest generation sensors and aerial vehicles. The number of UAV's to be actively used on operations are being enlarged thanks to new deliveries from Baykar + Vestel companies.

but Army wants 10 new Anka-S and Police wants 15 ANKA-S + 15 Bayraktar TB-2 UAV'S immediately.

Guided miniature munitions which is specialy designed against assymetric targets like PKK is ready and waiting for 10+15 Anka platform for integrations.

 

[ByzYldz]

Iranian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Marzieh Afkham said that Iran condemned the terrorist organization PKK’s attacks against Turkish army and civilians.

Spain strongly condemns the attacks carried out by separatist terrorist groups in different parts of Turkey since last July that caused the deaths and injury of many civilians and security forces," Spanish Ministry of Foreign Affairs said in a written statement Wednesday.

Source Anadolu Agency

 

[Bismarck]

@cabatli_53

BMC Vuran will be delivered to turkish army? Is it not in the same class like Nurol Yalcin?