The fight against ISIS terrorism

[MULUBJA]

Never thought i will take Religious studies class again in this forum lol.

Islam highly influenced by Hinduism, Arab version of Islam. can i make my own version? not the one influenced by Hindu thou, since i love eating beef.

Yes why not. You can make one of yours also but do not teach them beheading techniques to them in that. Let it be like Sufism of India and Pakistan.

 

[Arabic_Ottoman]

Yes why not. You can make one of yours also but do not teach them beheading techniques to them in that.

I will list that. what else you would like to add in this religion list of renovations?. How about we change the numbers
of prayers 5 times per day to one prayer on Friday's? and call it Influenced by Christianity. deal?.

 

[MULUBJA]

I will list that. what else you would like to add in this religion list of renovations?. How about we change the numbers
of prayers 5 times per day to one prayer on Friday's? and call it Influenced by Christianity. deal?.

I wold like that. It will save a lots of time of people.

 

[The SC]

Guys who know Reina club well...there is no security on the door entry ? ....and you must be booked before entering ?

It is a restaurant with a bar.. and some police undercover officers were also disguised as Santa Claus in many parts of Istambul, so it was difficult to intercept the killer even if there was a security presence..

 

[bsruzm]

Ahh, blame it on christians and the jewish right...

We should blame Islam? No enemies left? Hayırdır?

 

[EgyptianAmerican]

You can call me a bigot, you can call me an islamophobe, you can call me a racist, you can call me whatever you want, i dont care, but i will tell u one thing - until islam has a massive reformation these attacks will not only continue, but will get worse and worse. Anyone who says this has nothing to do with islam is either an islamic apologist, or is totally and absolutely DUMB.

If you think Islam needs a Reformation then you clearly don't understand the underlying principles of Islam and it's teachings.

Most of Islamaphobes spit out reformation with no clue about Islam.

I can pull out the Quran and point out at least 200 verses that clearly state that this is wrong. Do you even have a Quran?


“O You who believe! Enter absolutely into peace (Islam). Do not follow in the footsteps of satan. He is an outright enemy to you.” (Holy Quran: 2,208)

“There is no compulsion where the religion is concerned.” (Holy Quran: 2,256)

“God does not forbid you from being good to those who have not fought you in the religion or driven you from your homes, or from being just towards them. God loves those who are just.” (Surat al-Mumtahana, 8)

“We have appointed a law and a practice for every one of you. Had God willed, He would have made you a single community, but He wanted to test you regarding what has come to you. So compete with each other in doing good. Every one of you will return to God and He will inform you regarding the things about which you differed.” (Surat al-Ma’ida, 48)


It is not righteousness that you turn your faces to the East or the West, but truly righteous is he who believes in Allah and the Last Day and the angels and the Book and the Prophets, and spends his money for love of Him, on the kindred and the orphans and the needy and the wayfarer and those who ask for charity, and for ransoming the captives; and who observes Prayer and pays the Zakat; and those who fulfill their promise when they have made one, and the patient in poverty and afflictions and the steadfast in time of war; it is these who have proved truthful and it is these who are the God-fearing. (Al Quran 2:178)

Indeed, Allah enjoins justice, and the doing of good to others; and giving like kindred; and forbids indecency, and manifest evil, and wrongful transgression. He admonished you that you may take heed. (Al Quran 16:91)


The reward of goodness is nothing but goodness. (Al Quran 55:61)

Indeed, Allah is with those who are righteous and those who do good. (Al Quran 16:129)


O ye people! fear your Lord, Who created you from a single soul and created therefrom its mate, and from them twain spread many men and women; and fear Allah, in Whose name you appeal to one another, and be mindful of your duty to Allah, particularly respecting ties of relationship. Verily, Allah watches over you. (Al Quran 4:2)


Thus indeed do We reward those who do good. (Al Quran 37:132)

Say, ‘Come, I will rehearse to you what your Lord has forbidden: that you associate not anything as partner with Him and that you do good to parents, and that you kill not your children for fear of poverty — it is We Who provide for you and for them — and that you approach not foul deeds, whether open or secret; and that you kill not the life which Allah has made sacred, save by right. That is what He has enjoined upon you, that you may understand. (Al Quran 6:152)

No wonder then that the Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) so earnestly used to entreat his Lord in his daily prayer: "O God, you are the original source of Peace; from You is all Peace, and to You returns all Peace. So, make us live with Peace; and let us enter paradise: the House of Peace. Blessed be You, our Lord, to whom belongs all Majesty and Honour!"


I have a lot more, Just ask and you will receive.


Is there a single thing in any of these verses that need to be reformed? Besides using a tragedy to push a political and religious agenda is disgusting. You should be ashamed of yourself.


Anyway may the victims rest in peace.

You want an actual solution? Than don't blame Islam.


Besides wasn't the owner warned of such a attack? Why didn't he beef up security?

 

[帅的一匹]

If you think Islam needs a Reformation then you clearly don't understand the underlying principles of Islam and it's teachings.

Most of Islamaphobes spit out reformation with no clue about Islam.

I can pull out the Quran and point out at least 200 verses that clearly state that this is wrong. Do you even have a Quran?


“O You who believe! Enter absolutely into peace (Islam). Do not follow in the footsteps of satan. He is an outright enemy to you.” (Holy Quran: 2,208)

“There is no compulsion where the religion is concerned.” (Holy Quran: 2,256)

“God does not forbid you from being good to those who have not fought you in the religion or driven you from your homes, or from being just towards them. God loves those who are just.” (Surat al-Mumtahana, 8)

“We have appointed a law and a practice for every one of you. Had God willed, He would have made you a single community, but He wanted to test you regarding what has come to you. So compete with each other in doing good. Every one of you will return to God and He will inform you regarding the things about which you differed.” (Surat al-Ma’ida, 48)


It is not righteousness that you turn your faces to the East or the West, but truly righteous is he who believes in Allah and the Last Day and the angels and the Book and the Prophets, and spends his money for love of Him, on the kindred and the orphans and the needy and the wayfarer and those who ask for charity, and for ransoming the captives; and who observes Prayer and pays the Zakat; and those who fulfill their promise when they have made one, and the patient in poverty and afflictions and the steadfast in time of war; it is these who have proved truthful and it is these who are the God-fearing. (Al Quran 2:178)

Indeed, Allah enjoins justice, and the doing of good to others; and giving like kindred; and forbids indecency, and manifest evil, and wrongful transgression. He admonished you that you may take heed. (Al Quran 16:91)


The reward of goodness is nothing but goodness. (Al Quran 55:61)

Indeed, Allah is with those who are righteous and those who do good. (Al Quran 16:129)


O ye people! fear your Lord, Who created you from a single soul and created therefrom its mate, and from them twain spread many men and women; and fear Allah, in Whose name you appeal to one another, and be mindful of your duty to Allah, particularly respecting ties of relationship. Verily, Allah watches over you. (Al Quran 4:2)


Thus indeed do We reward those who do good. (Al Quran 37:132)

Say, ‘Come, I will rehearse to you what your Lord has forbidden: that you associate not anything as partner with Him and that you do good to parents, and that you kill not your children for fear of poverty — it is We Who provide for you and for them — and that you approach not foul deeds, whether open or secret; and that you kill not the life which Allah has made sacred, save by right. That is what He has enjoined upon you, that you may understand. (Al Quran 6:152)

No wonder then that the Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) so earnestly used to entreat his Lord in his daily prayer: "O God, you are the original source of Peace; from You is all Peace, and to You returns all Peace. So, make us live with Peace; and let us enter paradise: the House of Peace. Blessed be You, our Lord, to whom belongs all Majesty and Honour!"


I have a lot more, Just ask and you will receive.


Is there a single thing in any of these verses that need to be reformed? Besides using a tragedy to push a political and religious agenda is disgusting. You should be ashamed of yourself.


Anyway may the victims rest in peace.

You want an actual solution? Than don't blame Islam.


Besides wasn't the owner warned of such a attack? Why didn't he beef up security?

You don't have to explain it to a Muslim hater. It's just waste of time. I'm a Christian, and i don't hate Muslim. Some of the description in Bible and Quran are same, for example, Gesus is a saint in Quran. Honestly, Islam are Christianity is highly related, two different ways to tell the same story. This world is going to hell if there is no religions. Every religion has heresy.

 

[Oublious]

Unfornutaly ther is fake picture going on about the friends of the terrorist. The boy is normal person like you and me.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?....378605492170678.94883.100000636913121&type=3

Arkadaşlar karakoldayiz ifade verildi çıkıyoruz.bu asılsız habere itibar etmeyin sizden rica ediyoruz lütfen bunu paylaşalım herkese ulaştıralım. —

 

[Neptune]

We should blame Islam? No enemies left? Hayırdır?

Nope. The way we think of religion is the one to blame. Have we seen any religious citizens who took the posters on streets saying "New Year celebs are haram", also took the streets lets say when the Ensar Foundation sexual assault scandal was on news? Did we see any of them saying a muslim does not steal/rob?

 

[mustafa erkan]

You don't have to explain it to a Muslim hater. It's just waste of time. I'm a Christian, and i don't hate Muslim.

Thanks for best description.
Terorism always aims for geopolitical and economical results so we cant explain it to someones who are not clever enough to understand why muslims countries are under attack while they are blaming muslim.

 

[bsruzm]

Have we seen any religious citizens who took the posters on streets saying "New Year celebs are haram"

They express their opinion as we have freedom of expression. They do not harm anybody, do they? You can still go and celebrate, drink or whatever. I celebrate it at home with my family as well.

the Ensar Foundation sexual assault scandal was on news?

They should screw the a*sholes, whoever involved.

 

[Neptune]

They express their opinion as we have freedom of expression. They do not harm anybody, do they? You can still go and celebrate, drink or whatever. I celebrate it at home with my family as well.

They should screw the a*sholes, whoever involved.

By the same reason; they beat up a pregnant women, and a young lady on the bus. And these are the recent examples only. I admit that polarizing people is the last thing we need right now but have you ever seen other wing doing such things on streets? No. Even if they did, you would say that it has nothing to do with freedom of expression and that it'd be disrespectful to values. Heck I think we all know the state of freedom of expression here in Turkey. What they have done last week about new year celebrations is no different than the anarchist commies from ODTÜ harassing students wearing headscarves a couple years ago.

About Ensar, yes they should have. But so far no public voice from that particular group of people was shown neither the government has done anything.

 

[bsruzm]

By the same reason; they beat up a pregnant women, and a young lady on the bus. And these are the recent examples only.

How by the same reason? They? You confuse a crime with an expression. So, what happend? Did Turkish people carry that criminal on their back? Declare him a national hero? No. Also, how do you know that isn't an organized crime? (I make fun of our Ankara's Gökçek most of the time but I give him credit about that organized crime claim.) I could hire anybody suitable for such thing. You may ask why would I? Why wouldn't I? I want to hit Turkey and kill all of you regardless of your wing, thinking, beliefs. As I perfectly hide myself, look, it gets on your nerves.

I admit that polarizing people is the last thing we need right now but have you ever seen other wing doing such things on streets?

I did, and I give the same reaction for both sides. The other wing mostly goes unheard unlike the religious motivated one as it takes more attention.

About Ensar, yes they should have. But so far no public voice from that particular group of people was shown neither the government has done anything.

I don't hold a lot of knowledge about it. Didn't they charge those, who are responsible?

 

[帅的一匹]

According to Mirror, the terrorist could come from East Turkestan a branch of ISIS, you can judge the out looking of the terrorists either AfganistanI or Chechnya.https://view.inews.qq.com/a/MIL2017010200887401

 

[Gibbs]

RIP.. Thoughts are with Turkish people

On hindsight you breast feed a hatchling, It will grow up in to poisonous snake and will attack and kill you

India learnt it the hard way, Pakistan is still learning, The US paid the price.. So many lessons in history.. Hopefully Turkish people will realize this before it's too late.. Maybe sadly it already is, What a tragedy on the once the beacon of hope and stability in the Muslim world