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Not doubt this is another religious motivated attack. On Friday sermon Diyanet speak against new year celebrations. Same events happened in Pakistan in Lal masjid, when these religious motivated people were spreading hate, Our army killed 100+ people in Lal masjid operation.
There are always few extremists, better to control them first before they get out of hand. Deal them with bullet language.
 
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http://aa.com.tr/en/americas/us-denies-having-intelligence-on-istanbul-club-attack-/718382

Embassy in Ankara rejects media speculation, says U.S. and Turkey 'consult closely in combating terrorism'
01.01.2017

The U.S. embassy in Turkey on Sunday rejected media claims it had prior intelligence about the deadly terror attack at an Istanbul nightclub.

"Contrary to rumors circulating on social media, the U.S. Government had no information about threats to specific entertainment venues, including the Reina Club, and ‎the U.S. Government did not warn Americans to stay away from specific venues or neighborhoods," the embassy said in a statement.

At least 39 people, including a police officer, died after an attacker opened fire on partygoers at the venue in Istanbul’s Ortakoy district in the early hours of New Year’s Day.

Sixty-nine people were also hurt, with a number of foreigners among the dead and injured.

"As the White House and our embassy indicated earlier today, we categorically condemn last night’s terrorist attack," the U.S. statement continued.

Sunday's statement came after Mehmet Kocarslan, owner of Reina nightclub, claimed U.S. sources had intelligence on the attack, but later clarified his remarks, saying the U.S. had warned its citizens against such attacks.

The embassy in Ankara said a general threat warning was issued on Dec. 22 "for Turkey and various parts of Europe, as we do whenever there are indications that American citizens might be targeted or subjected to violence".

"The U.S. and Turkish agencies consult closely in combating terrorism, including by sharing information on suspected terrorist threats. This cooperation will continue as we confront the shared threat of terrorism," it added.

Not doubt this is another religious motivated attack. On Friday sermon Diyanet speak against new year celebrations. Same events happened in Pakistan in Las masjid, when these religious motivated people were spreading hate, Our army killed 100+ people in Lal masjid operation.
There are always few extremists, better to control them first before they get out of hand. Deal them with bullet language.


Republic of Turkey is going through the same similar like Republic of India.

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/ne...tack.aspx?pageID=238&nID=108008&NewsCatID=509
Turkey was shaken once again in the first hours of 2017, as one of Istanbul’s jet set nightclubs was raided by a gunman who killed 39 and wounded 65 people, four of whom are in a critical condition.

The terrorist arrived at Reina nightclub on the coast of the Bosphorus at 01.15 a.m. local time in a taxi, according to eyewitness accounts. He took a bag from the trunk, removed an automatic rifle from the bag, shot the policemen waiting in front of the club as he was crossing the street, and then stormed his way inside, spraying bullets on the nearly 800 people (including employees) who were celebrating the new year. He then removed his overcoat and cap and disappeared in a different outfit. Security experts speaking on Turkish TV say the attacker behaved in a “professional, trained and cold-blooded” manner and had likely previously explored the site to gather intelligence.

As of midday on Jan. 1 no one had claimed responsibility. But sources in Ankara say the investigation focused on the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL), or DEASH in Arabic initials, which has been carrying out many terrorist attacks other than suicide bombings, as in the recent example in Berlin, Germany.

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http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/id...tack.aspx?pageID=238&nID=107999&NewsCatID=509
The identities of 35 victims killed in an armed attack at a nightclub in central Istanbul on Jan. 1 have been confirmed as 24 have been identified as foreign citizens, while eleven of them were reported to be Turkish citizens.

Istanbul’s famous Reina nightclub was hit by an armed attack just over an hour into the new year. The gunman had reportedly entered the club by killing a policeman and a civilian at the entrance of the club and later shot his way into the club at the celebrating crowd.

The foreign victims were identified as seven Saudi Arabian nationals, two Indians, one Canadian, one Syrian, one Israeli, two Tunisians, four Iraqis, one Lebanese and one Belgian.

Earlier, Interior Minister Süleyman Soylu said 20 of the victims were identified, while works to identify the other 19 were ongoing. Some 69 wounded were also undergoing treatments at 10 different hospitals, of which four of them were reportedly in “critical condition.”

The Jordanian Foreign Ministry was quoted by the official Petra news agency as saying that three of its citizens were killed and another four injured.

The Tunisian Foreign Ministry said on its Facebook page that two Tunisians had died, with media reports describing the victims as a businessman and his wife.
 
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Not doubt this is another religious motivated attack. On Friday sermon Diyanet speak against new year celebrations. Same events happened in Pakistan in Las masjid, when these religious motivated people were spreading hate, Our army killed 100+ people in Lal masjid operation.
There are always few extremists, better to control them first before they get out of hand. Deal them with bullet language.


Condolences to all the innocent victims.

This is a well planned, cold blooded, religiously motivated execution of revellers celebrating a festival of a different faith.
 
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Still it can't forge a reason to overthrow Assad. if Syria people don't support him, he won't last so long even with Russia support.

Exactly...No one is ready to understand that if people are not behind Assad, how come he survived for more than 5 year of insurgency and war....

Now you start to understand the Suffering Uigher terrorists impose on Chinese Civillian? Both kill innocent civilians for getting independence.

But i do not think Uigher people are so violent like thse isis....What i heard they have very very local insurgency...They lack any sophistication and coordinated attack...But the best part is China handled them very well.
 
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Turkey is no more safe place, terrorist attacks are becoming routine work, On other hand Erdogan is busy to arrest opponents doing comments on Facebook & twitter.

Today 40 + died. Rip. Very sad to see turkey burning like this. Turkey is no more secular after Erdogan. It is erdoganistan.
I don't know what actually Ergorgan is think of, he is a mystery.

Exactly...No one is ready to understand that if people are not behind Assad, how come he survived for more than 5 year of insurgency and war....



But i do not think Uigher people are so violent like thse isis....What i heard they have very very local insurgency...They lack any sophistication and coordinated attack...But the best part is China handled them very well.
If you visit Xingjiang, must visit the Urumuqi Grand Bazaar! I know Uyhgers are Turkish distant relatives, we will take care of them as our family members. 99.99% Uyghers are good people, but some Uygher terrorists ( both Jihadists and Seperstists)play as bad as PKK. As to the traditional friendly relationship of China with the Muslim world, you shall have faith that China will treat Uygher fairly and unbiasedly. Then Al Qaeda in Afganistan is a huge problem for China as it provided training to XingJiang terrorists whose ultimate goal is to build a country name East Turkestan. Uyghers used to be secular Muslim, but everything change since Al Qaeda/ ISIS ideology spread the rough Internet and terrorist expatriation. I hate Yankees, they create all the fcking chaos in the Middle East. China now becomes the victim of the terrorists as well.
 
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I have many Muslims friends. When ever any terrorist attack has happened in my country, Islamic fundamentalism was behind it. I am not against Muslims. If you are unwilling to accept truth, I do not have any problem but you will not get any solution unless you correctly define the issue.

So according to you, truth is Islam is the problem.

This is simply just too ignorant, as Islam plays almost no role in Turkish bureaucracy and state system. Where else, in countries like Indonesia, Malaysia, and other southeast Asian Muslim countries we see no terror actions - because they are far from middle east, far from energy sources, far from american/western intervention.

And also, one must consider, prior to 9/11 attacks, terrorism was a scarce issue. Especially "Muslim terrorism" that is.

How can you deny all this, and try to educate me/us with your Indian mind what Turkey must do and what the problem of Turkey is.

You can gently get lost from here, if you are going to use such provocative arguments.
 
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So according to you, truth is Islam is the problem.

This is simply just too ignorant, as Islam plays almost no role in Turkish bureaucracy and state system. Where else, in countries like Indonesia, Malaysia, and other southeast Asian Muslim countries we see no terror actions - because they are far from middle east, far from energy sources, far from american/western intervention.

And also, one must consider, prior to 9/11 attacks, terrorism was a scarce issue. Especially "Muslim terrorism" that is.

How can you deny all this, and try to educate me/us with your Indian mind what Turkey must do and what the problem of Turkey is.

You can gently get lost from here, if you are going to use such provocative arguments.
He knows nothing but a Pakistan hater. ISIS was created by USA. Even Turkey don't want a ISIS controlled Syria government as neighbours although you don't like Assad. Who want a devil live beside himself? Islam is not the problem, Yankees are.
 
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Yes the situation has improved tremendously. It would be foolish of me to say that there is no threat, but I can say confidently that the situation is same as was in 2003 or so. Many towns along Afghan border are still not completely safe but the 90% of country is pretty much normal and stable.
Awesome :-)
 
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So according to you, truth is Islam is the problem.

This is simply just too ignorant, as Islam plays almost no role in Turkish bureaucracy and state system. Where else, in countries like Indonesia, Malaysia, and other southeast Asian Muslim countries we see no terror actions - because they are far from middle east, far from energy sources, far from american/western intervention.

And also, one must consider, prior to 9/11 attacks, terrorism was a scarce issue. Especially "Muslim terrorism" that is.

How can you deny all this, and try to educate me/us with your Indian mind what Turkey must do and what the problem of Turkey is.

You can gently get lost from here, if you are going to use such provocative arguments.
I did not say that turkey"s bureaucracy is islamized but who were the attackers? Which ideology motivated them to do that? What make them kill people even at the cost of their life?

Indonesia, Pakistan, India had a an Islam highly influenced by Hinduism. Now it has started being replaced by Arab version and you can can see the result. In India too, people have started getting radicalized. Turkey is Muslim majority country so this danger is looming on Turkey. I am not doing any provoketing argument.

As you wished , I leave this discussion.
 
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who were the attackers? Which ideology motivated them to do that?

Sunniists. Sunniism and Islam are two different religions. You are trying to blame Islam because of some other religion. It is like, we can blame hinduism because of one Buddhist or Shia terrorist, no we cant.
 
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I did not say that turkey"s bureaucracy is islamized but who were the attackers? Which ideology motivated them to do that? What make them kill people even at the cost of their life?

Indonesia, Pakistan, India had a an Islam highly influenced by Hinduism. Now it has started being replaced by Arab version and you can can see the result. In India too, people have started getting radicalized. Turkey is Muslim majority country so this danger is looming on Turkey. I am not doing any provoketing argument. If you find it provoking, you are in initial stage of radicalization.

Never thought i will take Religious studies class again in this forum lol.

Islam highly influenced by Hinduism, Arab version of Islam. can i make my own version? not the one influenced by Hindu thou, since i love eating beef.
 
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I did not say that turkey"s bureaucracy is islamized but who were the attackers? Which ideology motivated them to do that? What make them kill people even at the cost of their life?

Indonesia, Pakistan, India had a an Islam highly influenced by Hinduism. Now it has started being replaced by Arab version and you can can see the result. In India too, people have started getting radicalized. Turkey is Muslim majority country so this danger is looming on Turkey. I am not doing any provoketing argument. If you find it provoking, you are in initial stage of radicalization.

If I'm in my radicalization phase, then more than half of Turkey are radical Muslims in your viewpoint. We Türks are proud to be Muslim, we Türks view Islam as the religion that gives us inner peace, that teaches us to share our wealth with the poor and to be forgiving.

If not for Islam, most people in the middle east would seek resort in so called "terror actions" to fight the evils of what US and its puppet dog countries of Europe brought to the middle east. But people stay patient, because patience is a virtue in Islam. But some tiny fraction (groups) use the emotion states of people to rage their hatred towards the injustices done to them and their families. I don't approve what they do, I strongly condemn all sorts of terrorism - though we must acknowledge the source of the product (terrorism) is not "radical Islamism", it's the injustices done in Middle East and Afghanistan that people won't and will not forget, and some will use it as a means to fulfill their political agenda, in terms of using Islam as a tool. Since with Islam they can convince people.

Don't come in here and teach me about radicalization. Or Islam. Or anything inbetween or anything that happens or happened in Middle East.

If I am at my early stages of Radicalization, you are in your stage of Rise in ignorance.
 
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Is there any new info about the shooter?

Leave the religious talk aside...
 
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I did not say that turkey"s bureaucracy is islamized but who were the attackers? Which ideology motivated them to do that? What make them kill people even at the cost of their life?

Indonesia, Pakistan, India had a an Islam highly influenced by Hinduism. Now it has started being replaced by Arab version and you can can see the result. In India too, people have started getting radicalized. Turkey is Muslim majority country so this danger is looming on Turkey. I am not doing any provoketing argument.

As you wished , I leave this discussion.


OOoo you mean sufism ahahah, sufism have nothing to do with that hindu thing. Don't talk BS please.


Beyler bu salaga fazla yuz vermeyin...
 
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