The fall of Sassanid

[HannibalBarca]

Abrahamic religions believe even rape of a baby is known in advance by God. Some of them even say it was gods will that this happened.
And indeed it's logic in line of creation of evil (iblis) by Allah.

Allah is the most Just...
The Wrongdoer will have his punishment and the Wronged will have his reward. And all in btw is trial for Both "Side"... The Wrongdoer and the Wronged...

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

These countries were under our shoes and spoke Persian:

Btw this is map of Achaemenid empire

Your map is wrong. The Persian Empire only held Western Pakistan as satrapies (Balochistan and KPK) for 200 years, after which Alexander the Great (Sikander e Azam) trampled over Persia with lightning speed only to be stalemated by Porus at Jhelum. Greek successor states held the region for much longer, followed Iranic nomads (Scythians, Kushans,) Afghan-based Turkic conquerors.

 

[Aramagedon]

Your map is wrong. The Persian Empire only held Western Pakistan as satrapies (Balochistan and KPK) for 200 years, after which Alexander the Great (Sikander e Azam) trampled over Persia with lightning speed only to be stalemated by Porus at Jhelum. Greek successor states held the region for much longer, followed Iranic nomads (Scythians, Kushans,) Afghan-based Turkic conquerors.

Many Iranian (Persian - Turkic) empires held what today is called Pakistan (Hindustan) for centuries.

Some of them:

-Medes
-Achaemenid
-Parthian
-Sassanid
-Tahirid
-Saffarid Dynasty
-Samanid
-Ghaznavid
-Seljuk
-Safavid
-Afsharid

Map:

https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/persian-dynasty-maps.303626

 

[Hack-Hook]

Indeed if wasn’t for them many countries would have helped Iraq but even the USA hesitated in the beginning because of the leadership of the PMU

The weak pathetic Iraqi governments shouldn’t let anyone to wear a turban to lead or participate in any battle just how saddam made the popular army paramilitary along with the regular official army and the republican guards under the armed forces command any not under the Ba’ath party command or anyone else

Pmu come to being because USA refused to provide help . and after the initial success of PMU then USA saw its looking influence so they start help.

 

[SALMAN F]

Pmu come to being because USA refused to provide help . and after the initial success of PMU then USA saw its looking influence so they start help.

No

And even if they refused to help why shouldn’t they?! They know that al haliki and Dawa are Iranian agents and many PMU were members of militias that killed US soldiers and Iraqi security personnel

 

[Hack-Hook]

No

And even if they refused to help why shouldn’t they?! They know that al haliki and Dawa are Iranian agents and many PMU were members of militias that killed US soldiers and Iraqi security personnel

there was no PMU at the time Iraq really needed the help

No

And even if they refused to help why shouldn’t they?! They know that al haliki and Dawa are Iranian agents and many PMU were members of militias that killed US soldiers and Iraqi security personnel

there was no PMU at the time Iraq really needed the help

 

[SALMAN F]

there was no PMU at the time Iraq really needed the help


there was no PMU at the time Iraq really needed the help

The Iranian loyal militias and the dogs of al haliki and muqtada were already their when the protests started in 2013 and many were fighting in Syria since 2012

 

[OldTwilight]

why this thread turned to this mess in less than one day !?
are you bunch of idiots which can't debate limited in certain context !?

back to the topic :
The funny part was just from besieging Constantinople and conquering Egypt , Syria and Anatolia and just one step away from crushing the big old enemy (Eastern Rome), Sassanian directly fall apart because of internal dispute ....

 

[Hack-Hook]

The Iranian loyal militias and the dogs of al haliki and muqtada were already their when the protests started in 2013 and many were fighting in Syria since 2012

the militia shaped after fall of Mosul and its ages that Moqtada is not following Iran suggestion

 

[Hamza913]

their countries are knee deep in shit.

So is yours lol.

 

[Hamza913]

Many Iranian (Persian - Turkic) empires held what today is called Pakistan (Hindustan) for centuries.

Some of them:

-Medes
-Achaemenid
-Parthian
-Sassanid
-Tahirid
-Saffarid Dynasty
-Samanid
-Ghaznavid
-Seljuk
-Safavid
-Afsharid

Map:

https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/persian-dynasty-maps.303626

And the Pashtuns (2nd largest ethnicity in Pakistan) were more than willing to return the favour:

 

[Hack-Hook]

And the Pashtuns (2nd largest ethnicity in Pakistan) were more than willing to return the favour:

Lol
1722-1729, only 7 years.
Look more like a warlord who pillaged city after city not a dynasty.

 

[Hamza913]

Look more like a warlord who pillaged city after city

Yep, that's exactly what happened. They went from city to city, killing thousands.

Unfortunately, they couldn't Pashtunise Iran the same way the Arabs Arabised it, or depopulate it to the same degree that the Mongols did. And I don't think there will be another attempt at it, since Iran is pretty militarily weak right now and is going to be for the foreseeable future (so nobody needs to put the country in it's place).

 

[Hack-Hook]

Yep, that's exactly what happened. They went from city to city, killing thousands.

Unfortunately, they couldn't Pashtunise Iran the same way the Arabs Arabised it, or depopulate it to the same degree that the Mongols did. And I don't think there will be another attempt at it, since Iran is pretty militarily weak right now and is going to be for the foreseeable future (so nobody needs to put the country in it's place).

Well Mongols became more Persian than Persians and arab arabized Egypt , Libya and Mesopotamia mot iran.
By the way have you ever considered while allamah iqbal poems are in Persian. I wonder if those warlords would have become persianized if they have stayed in iran for more than 7 years. ?

By the way I wonder if iran is weak for now and forseable future then why when some people want the head of snake crushed they beg uncle Sam and they don't dare do it themself. Or why when uncle Sam call iran and North Korea the axis of evil and he mail sponsor of terrorism they attack iraq and pashtuns in the east of iran but won't dare attack iran ?

 

[Hamza913]

Well Mongols became more Persian than Persians

If you say so.

arab arabized Egypt , Libya and Mesopotamia mot iran.

There's a reason you write using a script based off of Arabic, and call it Farsi instead of Parsi.

By the way have you ever considered while allamah iqbal poems are in Persian.

He wrote a lot of them in Farsi because that was, along with Urdu, the lingua franca of Muslims throughout South Asia for centuries. But that's just a language, so I don't see why it makes some Iranians feel special.

I wonder if those warlords would have become persianized if they have stayed in iran for more than 7 years. ?

I wonder if the reverse could have happened...

why when uncle Sam call iran and North Korea the axis of evil and he mail sponsor of terrorism they attack iraq and pashtuns in the east of iran but won't dare attack iran ?

Because you're not worth the effort, but make no mistake, most of your neighbours (Turkey, Pakistan and the Arabs across the Gulf) are more powerful than Iran either economically, militarily, or both.