The enemy within!

[Ajit Kumar]

You think I am trolling.fine.thank you

You are welcome. And also you did not answer my question. You were the one who is searching for Islam. I just asked you a question. And you did not answer it. So of course you are trolling.

 

[Slav Defence]

You are welcome. And also you did not answer my question. You were the one who is searching for Islam. I just asked you a question. And you did not answer it. So of course you are trolling.

How lovely.How manipulative

 

[Ajit Kumar]

How lovely.How manipulative

Hain ? No answer again ?

 

[Azad-Kashmiri]

That is what you believe. Allah may send food for you from heaven, but not for me.

How do you fit in this discussion? Are you Ahal al-Kithab?

 

[Ajit Kumar]

How do you fit in this discussion? Are you Ahal al-Kithab?

I thought Islam is for everyone. Are you saying Islam is for muslims ?

 

[Azad-Kashmiri]

I thought Islam is for everyone. Are you saying Islam is for muslims ?

This is why you should not get involved in matters you have no knowledge of. My discussion with Soloman has nothing to do with dawah.

As for your interest in Islam; Islam is for the sincere! There is a brother who accepted Islam from Hinduism on PDF and I suggest you talk to him.

May Allah guide you! Amin

 

[Ajit Kumar]

This is why you should not get involved in matters you have no knowledge of. My discussion with Soloman has nothing to do with dawah.

As for your interest in Islam; Islam is for the sincere! There is a brother who accepted Islam from Hinduism on PDF and I suggest you talk to him.

May Allah guide you! Amin

First I have to know that. I am saying that your belief is yours and mine is mine. There is also a brother in PDF who is a ex-muslim. you talk to him. you should keep your believes to yourself.

 

[VCheng]

Allah teach us for not to worship any other besides him.Ever wondered it's meaning? It means to avoid your nafs at individual level so that we become a wonderful citizen,it teaches us to stand against our enemies fearlessly and make policies for betterment of our state and interests. Islam teaches us to develop our own banking system.It suggests us to start our own business and to prefer import -export business (read sahasatta).what is so wrong with it?I tell you if it was applied for real then there would be no such troubles. Even though at individual level, Islam has such a strong effect when it says "La-ilaha illalah",if we really understand it for real then nobody will try to do corruption because we will be practicing to worship Allah alone who prevents us for not to make your "nafs" your god and to worship him alone.
Regards

Yes, I agree with you that Islam teaches us all that, and more, all of it noble to the highest standards. No doubt.

But what have the students of what you say is being taught done with it? Let's see.

"It means to avoid your nafs at individual level so that we become a wonderful citizen." What percentage of the citizens of Pakistan perform their civic duties as they should?

"It teaches us to stand against our enemies fearlessly and make policies for betterment of our state and interests." Would you like to tell us what policies have worked for bettering Pakistan and serving its interests over the last several decades?

"Islam teaches us to develop our own banking system." Merely changing labels to profit and loss sharing does not make for an Islamic banking system, does it?

"It suggests us to start our own business and to prefer import -export business. What is so wrong with it?" Nothing is wrong with this, but then why is Pakistan always importing more than exporting, leading to pressure on its balance of payments, requiring remittances and other exercises to balance out?

"I tell you if it was applied for real then there would be no such troubles." I agree, but pray tell what is stopping you and me from all this to be applied for real?

"If we really understand it for real then nobody will try to do corruption because we will be practicing to worship Allah alone who prevents us for not to make your "nafs" your god and to worship him alone." What this means is that since corruption is rampant at all levels in Pakistan, nobody really understands it for real.

And none of this has anything to do with Israel, only Pakistan.

 

[Solomon2]

It is canny being lectured about morality from -

Friend, I haven't even started. I was pinpointing the dispute.

 

[Solomon2]

We are a Muslim country and PROUD Muslims -

Interesting. The Obama Administration's policy seems to be that improved relations with the Muslim world must be on a basis of "a narrative of pride in the achievements of Islam" link. Can you tell me what Muslims of the past century have to be proud of?

 

[Azad-Kashmiri]

Can you tell me what Muslims of the past century have to be proud of?

We survived slavery. Now, we have to rid of mental slavery. The British made sure they left a system in their image. Even our coveted ISI was created by a British Officer Major-General Robert Cawthome, and has a satanic emblem of a goat pentagram.

I wonder how much time do we have after the 4th blood moon before they enact their ''prophecies'' on us?

 

[Indus Pakistan]

We survived slavery. Now, we have to rid of mental slavery. The British made sure they left a system in their image. Even our coveted ISI was created by a British Officer Major-General Robert Cawthome, and has a satanic emblem of a goat pentagram.

I wonder how much time do we have after the 4th blood moon before they enact their ''prophecies'' on us?

Of course you would prefer status quo ante British? That is have Maharajah Ranjit Singh or his dynasty ruling most of Pakistan?

 

[Azad-Kashmiri]

Of course you would prefer status quo ante British? That is have Maharajah Ranjit Singh or his dynasty ruling most of Pakistan?

This is not the topic discussed with Solomon.

 

[Solomon2]

We survived slavery. Now, we have to rid of mental slavery.

Do you mean to say, "We survived humiliation, and are still humiliated."?

The British made sure they left a system in their image. Even our coveted ISI was created by a British Officer Major-General Robert Cawthome, and has a satanic emblem of a goat pentagram.

And that this humiliation will be replaced with pride when Pakistan and India are destroyed?

I wonder how much time do we have after the 4th blood moon before they enact their ''prophecies'' on us?

What's this?

 

[livewire]

Let's be clear rather than sarcastic: separating religion from state will not lead to utopia, but it does have the potential to set right the course that is presently leading Pakistan on the path to increasing mayhem. It will take decades more to improve what we have destroyed in the last few decades.

then again you forgot to mention the practical steps needed to achieve this revolution! almost 99% of the decision makers of this country are essentially secular, amoral and have a liberal lifestyle. give examples of countries who achieved a welfare society by "declaring" themselves secular! please do that naveed!