Featured The Electronic Warfare (EW) suite for a Fighter Aircraft (EM and EO)

[Signalian]

This topic is an attempt cover both EW systems - Electromagnetic and Optical - for a modern fighter aircraft.

Electronic warfare equipment can be divided into two basic types:
1. Defensive
2. Offensive

Defensive EW Equipment Suite​

A Defensive EW equipment suite would include the following:

1. Expendables - Chaff or flares, able to counter electromagnetic spectrum in both radio and optical bands.

2. Radar warning Receiver (RWR) - Gives information on the direction and type of attack to initiate counter measures.

3. Radar Homing and warning system (RHAWS) - if present, assists pilot in locating threat emitter for counter attack.

4. Missile Approach warning system (MAWS) - Can use optical and EM sensor/radar systems to detect approach of hostile missile. Optical system detects plumes from missile to give angle information while EM sensor transmits pulses to detect angle and direction of hostile missile.

5. Optical Warning Receiver (OWR) - Just like RWR but operates in optical frequency bands. They detect emissions of laser range finders (aircrafts and surface ) as well as emissions of beam riding SAMs.

6. Defensive Electronic counter measures (D-ECM) - These can conceal aircraft radar return through noise jamming technique and can break missile locks through track-breaking technique.

7. Defensive Opto-electronic counter measures (D-OECM) - Operating in optical frequency band, these use track breaking technique when tracked by Electro-Optical (E/O) devices of missile seekers or Fire control systems (FCS).

8. Towed Decoys - as the name suggests, can launch a decoy which is towed behind aircraft to attract incoming hostile missile towards itself decoy of the aircraft e.g ALE-50.

9. Proximity Fuse Jammer (PFJ) - This device emits signals to confuse approaching hostile missile causing the missile to detonate prematurely before coming in close proximity of target aircraft. It is part of deception jamming.

Lastly, a low RCS or stealthy profile helps the aircraft to survive in hostile air space.

Offensive EW Equipment Suite
​

An Offensive EW equipment suite would include the following:

1. Electronic Support Measures (ESM) - This device is able to detect, identify, locate and classify enemy emitters while also possessing the capability to record emitter parameters for future Ops or post analysis. ESM sensors have reconnaissance and targeting ability.

2. Communication jammers (CJ) - These are specifically used to disrupt enemy Air Defence operations by jamming communication links in all frequency bands to hinder communications at tactical, operational and strategic level.

3. Support Jammers (SJ) - These jammers are employed against enemy AEW (Airborne early warning), surveillance systems and also radars through noise jamming and false target generation technique. SJ are used in conjunction with CJ against enemy AD architecture. Noise jamming can produce a false illumination of a fighter formation in the air which may not exist in real.

4. Electro-Magentic Pulse Weapon (EMP-W) - A weapon employed to damage or disable enemy's electronic equipment. This weapon can cause temporary hard kill to the electronic equipment which could require extensive repairs. While the enemy's electronic equipment is down, conventional weapons can be used to destroy this equipment and other targets in the designated kill zone.

5. Emitter Locating System (ELS) - The ELS gives precise location of emitter in real time which is essential for SEAD or DEAD Operations leading to a direct attack by conventional weapon like a missile (ARM-Anti radiation missile) or bombs etc. ELS can be part of ESM as it not only locates but also detects, identifies and classifies the hostile emitter.

Considering JF-17 Block III as a contender to face Rafale as well as a replacement for older PAF aircrafts like Mirage-III/V and F-7, one would hope that JF-17 is fully equipped with defensive EW suite and has the capability to be fitted with offensive EW suite to assist air strike operations along with F-16 in enemy air space considering that MAR-1 ARM has already been integrated on JF-17. PAF DA-20 Falcon EW aircraft left a major impression last year on IAF however JF-17 can be considered as an EW escort, armed with offensive EW suite, for all strike packages that PAF sends inside India.

 

[CIA Mole]

Hi can you give an example product of each type?

 

[AMRAAM]

This topic is an attempt cover both EW systems - Electromagnetic and Optical - for a modern fighter aircraft.

Electronic warfare equipment can be divided into two basic types:
1. Defensive
2. Offensive

Defensive EW Equipment Suite​

A Defensive EW equipment suite would include the following:

1. Expendables - Chaff or flares, able to counter electromagnetic spectrum in both radio and optical bands.

2. Radar warning Receiver (RWR) - Gives information on the direction and type of attack to initiate counter measures.

3. Radar Homing and warning system (RHAWS) - if present, assists pilot in locating threat emitter for counter attack.

4. Missile Approach warning system (MAWS) - Can use optical and EM sensor/radar systems to detect approach of hostile missile. Optical system detects plumes from missile to give angle information while EM sensor transmits pulses to detect angle and direction of hostile missile.

5. Optical Warning Receiver (OWR) - Just like RWR but operates in optical frequency bands. They detect emissions of laser range finders (aircrafts and surface ) as well as emissions of beam riding SAMs.

6. Defensive Electronic counter measures (D-ECM) - These can conceal aircraft radar return through noise jamming technique and can break missile locks through track-breaking technique.

7. Defensive Opto-electronic counter measures (D-OECM) - Operating in optical frequency band, these use track breaking technique when tracked by Electro-Optical (E/O) devices of missile seekers or Fire control systems (FCS).

8. Towed Decoys - as the name suggests, can launch a decoy which is towed behind aircraft to attract incoming hostile missile towards itself decoy of the aircraft e.g ALE-50.

9. Proximity Fuse Jammer (PFJ) - This device emits signals to confuse approaching hostile missile causing the missile to detonate prematurely before coming in close proximity of target aircraft. It is part of deception jamming.

Lastly, a low RCS or stealthy profile helps the aircraft to survive in hostile air space.

Offensive EW Equipment Suite
​

An Offensive EW equipment suite would include the following:

1. Electronic Support Measures (ESM) - This device is able to detect, identify, locate and classify enemy emitters while also possessing the capability to record emitter parameters for future Ops or post analysis. ESM sensors have reconnaissance and targeting ability.

2. Communication jammers (CJ) - These are specifically used to disrupt enemy Air Defence operations by jamming communication links in all frequency bands to hinder communications at tactical, operational and strategic level.

3. Support Jammers (SJ) - These jammers are employed against enemy AEW (Airborne early warning), surveillance systems and also radars through noise jamming and false target generation technique. SJ are used in conjunction with CJ against enemy AD architecture. Noise jamming can produce a false illumination of a fighter formation in the air which may not exist in real.

4. Electro-Magentic Pulse Weapon (EMP-W) - A weapon employed to damage or disable enemy's electronic equipment. This weapon can cause temporary hard kill to the electronic equipment which could require extensive repairs. While the enemy's electronic equipment is down, conventional weapons can be used to destroy this equipment and other targets in the designated kill zone.

5. Emitter Locating System (ELS) - The ELS gives precise location of emitter in real time which is essential for SEAD or DEAD Operations leading to a direct attack by conventional weapon like a missile (ARM-Anti radiation missile) or bombs etc. ELS can be part of ESM as it not only locates but also detects, identifies and classifies the hostile emitter.

Considering JF-17 Block III as a contender to face Rafale as well as a replacement for older PAF aircrafts like Mirage-III/V and F-7, one would hope that JF-17 is fully equipped with defensive EW suite and has the capability to be fitted with offensive EW suite to assist air strike operations along with F-16 in enemy air space considering that MAR-1 ARM has already been integrated on JF-17. PAF DA-20 Falcon EW aircraft left a major impression last year on IAF however JF-17 can be considered as an EW escort, armed with offensive EW suite, for all strike packages that PAF sends inside India.

Great information. Thanks for sharing.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

MEHPOD from ASELSAN and TUBITAK are to be deployed by the next year Insha'Allah...

And, HAVASOJ, the aircrafts are being fitted with EW systems now, gives a total solution:

 

[Talon]

This topic is an attempt cover both EW systems - Electromagnetic and Optical - for a modern fighter aircraft.

Electronic warfare equipment can be divided into two basic types:
1. Defensive
2. Offensive

Defensive EW Equipment Suite​

A Defensive EW equipment suite would include the following:

1. Expendables - Chaff or flares, able to counter electromagnetic spectrum in both radio and optical bands.

2. Radar warning Receiver (RWR) - Gives information on the direction and type of attack to initiate counter measures.

3. Radar Homing and warning system (RHAWS) - if present, assists pilot in locating threat emitter for counter attack.

4. Missile Approach warning system (MAWS) - Can use optical and EM sensor/radar systems to detect approach of hostile missile. Optical system detects plumes from missile to give angle information while EM sensor transmits pulses to detect angle and direction of hostile missile.

5. Optical Warning Receiver (OWR) - Just like RWR but operates in optical frequency bands. They detect emissions of laser range finders (aircrafts and surface ) as well as emissions of beam riding SAMs.

6. Defensive Electronic counter measures (D-ECM) - These can conceal aircraft radar return through noise jamming technique and can break missile locks through track-breaking technique.

7. Defensive Opto-electronic counter measures (D-OECM) - Operating in optical frequency band, these use track breaking technique when tracked by Electro-Optical (E/O) devices of missile seekers or Fire control systems (FCS).

8. Towed Decoys - as the name suggests, can launch a decoy which is towed behind aircraft to attract incoming hostile missile towards itself decoy of the aircraft e.g ALE-50.

9. Proximity Fuse Jammer (PFJ) - This device emits signals to confuse approaching hostile missile causing the missile to detonate prematurely before coming in close proximity of target aircraft. It is part of deception jamming.

Lastly, a low RCS or stealthy profile helps the aircraft to survive in hostile air space.

Offensive EW Equipment Suite
​

An Offensive EW equipment suite would include the following:

1. Electronic Support Measures (ESM) - This device is able to detect, identify, locate and classify enemy emitters while also possessing the capability to record emitter parameters for future Ops or post analysis. ESM sensors have reconnaissance and targeting ability.

2. Communication jammers (CJ) - These are specifically used to disrupt enemy Air Defence operations by jamming communication links in all frequency bands to hinder communications at tactical, operational and strategic level.

3. Support Jammers (SJ) - These jammers are employed against enemy AEW (Airborne early warning), surveillance systems and also radars through noise jamming and false target generation technique. SJ are used in conjunction with CJ against enemy AD architecture. Noise jamming can produce a false illumination of a fighter formation in the air which may not exist in real.

4. Electro-Magentic Pulse Weapon (EMP-W) - A weapon employed to damage or disable enemy's electronic equipment. This weapon can cause temporary hard kill to the electronic equipment which could require extensive repairs. While the enemy's electronic equipment is down, conventional weapons can be used to destroy this equipment and other targets in the designated kill zone.

5. Emitter Locating System (ELS) - The ELS gives precise location of emitter in real time which is essential for SEAD or DEAD Operations leading to a direct attack by conventional weapon like a missile (ARM-Anti radiation missile) or bombs etc. ELS can be part of ESM as it not only locates but also detects, identifies and classifies the hostile emitter.

Considering JF-17 Block III as a contender to face Rafale as well as a replacement for older PAF aircrafts like Mirage-III/V and F-7, one would hope that JF-17 is fully equipped with defensive EW suite and has the capability to be fitted with offensive EW suite to assist air strike operations along with F-16 in enemy air space considering that MAR-1 ARM has already been integrated on JF-17. PAF DA-20 Falcon EW aircraft left a major impression last year on IAF however JF-17 can be considered as an EW escort, armed with offensive EW suite, for all strike packages that PAF sends inside India.

Chaffs are also used as bait for the enemy.

Rwr also detects inbound missiles but only if missile activates its own radar and its usually too late for the target aircraft when M pops up on RWR (probably samething happened to Su30 last year,just my thought).RWR is just early warning,its kinda useless in BVR if bandit doesn't appear on FCR.

Defensive maneuvers are always recommended instead of relying completely on Jammers,you never know the missile might get a kill on you.

Also there's a major drawback of Jammers,enemy radars especially SAMs will have your location with pin point accuracy because of jammer emissions thus using Jammers at close range is never recommended.Music should be off at close range.You have to rely on CMDS at close range.

I wonder what's the Threat Bubble for DA-20...

 

[khanmubashir]

This topic is an attempt cover both EW systems - Electromagnetic and Optical - for a modern fighter aircraft.

Electronic warfare equipment can be divided into two basic types:
1. Defensive
2. Offensive

Defensive EW Equipment Suite​

A Defensive EW equipment suite would include the following:

1. Expendables - Chaff or flares, able to counter electromagnetic spectrum in both radio and optical bands.

2. Radar warning Receiver (RWR) - Gives information on the direction and type of attack to initiate counter measures.

3. Radar Homing and warning system (RHAWS) - if present, assists pilot in locating threat emitter for counter attack.

4. Missile Approach warning system (MAWS) - Can use optical and EM sensor/radar systezms to detect approach of hostile missile. Optical system detects plumes from missile to give angle information while EM sensor transmits pulses to detect angle and direction of hostile missile.

5. Optical Warning Receiver (OWR) - Just like RWR but operates in optical frequency bands. They detect emissions of laser range finders (aircrafts and surface ) as well as emissions of beam riding SAMs.

6. Defensive Electronic counter measures (D-ECM) - These can conceal aircraft radar return through noise jamming technique and can break missile locks through track-breaking technique.

7. Defensive Opto-electronic counter measures (D-OECM) - Operating in optical frequency band, these use track breaking technique when tracked by Electro-Optical (E/O) devices of missile seekers or Fire control systems (FCS).

8. Towed Decoys - as the name suggests, can launch a decoy which is towed behind aircraft to attract incoming hostile missile towards itself decoy of the aircraft e.g ALE-50.

9. Proximity Fuse Jammer (PFJ) - This device emits signals to confuse approaching hostile missile causing the missile to detonate prematurely before coming in close proximity of target aircraft. It is part of deception jamming.

Lastly, a low RCS or stealthy profile helps the aircraft to survive in hostile air space.

Offensive EW Equipment Suite
​

An Offensive EW equipment suite would include the following:

1. Electronic Support Measures (ESM) - This device is able to detect, identify, locate and classify enemy emitters while also possessing the capability to record emitter parameters for future Ops or post analysis. ESM sensors have reconnaissance and targeting ability.

2. Communication jammers (CJ) - These are specifically used to disrupt enemy Air Defence operations by jamming communication links in all frequency bands to hinder communications at tactical, operational and strategic level.

3. Support Jammers (SJ) - These jammers are employed against enemy AEW (Airborne early warning), surveillance systems and also radars through noise jamming and false target generation technique. SJ are used in conjunction with CJ against enemy AD architecture. Noise jamming can produce a false illumination of a fighter formation in the air which may not exist in real.

4. Electro-Magentic Pulse Weapon (EMP-W) - A weapon employed to damage or disable enemy's electronic equipment. This weapon can cause temporary hard kill to the electronic equipment which could require extensive repairs. While the enemy's electronic equipment is down, conventional weapons can be used to destroy this equipment and other targets in the designated kill zone.

5. Emitter Locating System (ELS) - The ELS gives precise location of emitter in real time which is essential for SEAD or DEAD Operations leading to a direct attack by conventional weapon like a missile (ARM-Anti radiation missile) or bombs etc. ELS can be part of ESM as it not only locates but also detects, identifies and classifies the hostile emitter.

Considering JF-17 Block III as a contender to face Rafale as well as a replacement for older PAF aircrafts like Mirage-III/V and F-7, one would hope that JF-17 is fully equipped with defensive EW suite and has the capability to be fitted with offensive EW suite to assist air strike operations along with F-16 in enemy air space considering that MAR-1 ARM has already been integrated on JF-17. PAF DA-20 Falcon EW aircraft left a major impression last year on IAF however JF-17 can be considered as an EW escort, armed with offensive EW suite, for all strike packages that PAF sends inside India.

Main issue with jf17 being single engine light weight jet is perhaps the engine can't generate enough power to for all ew suite and there be little space left for weapons
And also limited range
Jf17 needs a bigger engine to run all these systems to become kind of a mini growler

 

[m52k85]

This topic is an attempt cover both EW systems - Electromagnetic and Optical - for a modern fighter aircraft.

Electronic warfare equipment can be divided into two basic types:
1. Defensive
2. Offensive

Defensive EW Equipment Suite​

A Defensive EW equipment suite would include the following:

1. Expendables - Chaff or flares, able to counter electromagnetic spectrum in both radio and optical bands.

2. Radar warning Receiver (RWR) - Gives information on the direction and type of attack to initiate counter measures.

3. Radar Homing and warning system (RHAWS) - if present, assists pilot in locating threat emitter for counter attack.

4. Missile Approach warning system (MAWS) - Can use optical and EM sensor/radar systems to detect approach of hostile missile. Optical system detects plumes from missile to give angle information while EM sensor transmits pulses to detect angle and direction of hostile missile.

5. Optical Warning Receiver (OWR) - Just like RWR but operates in optical frequency bands. They detect emissions of laser range finders (aircrafts and surface ) as well as emissions of beam riding SAMs.

6. Defensive Electronic counter measures (D-ECM) - These can conceal aircraft radar return through noise jamming technique and can break missile locks through track-breaking technique.

7. Defensive Opto-electronic counter measures (D-OECM) - Operating in optical frequency band, these use track breaking technique when tracked by Electro-Optical (E/O) devices of missile seekers or Fire control systems (FCS).

8. Towed Decoys - as the name suggests, can launch a decoy which is towed behind aircraft to attract incoming hostile missile towards itself decoy of the aircraft e.g ALE-50.

9. Proximity Fuse Jammer (PFJ) - This device emits signals to confuse approaching hostile missile causing the missile to detonate prematurely before coming in close proximity of target aircraft. It is part of deception jamming.

Lastly, a low RCS or stealthy profile helps the aircraft to survive in hostile air space.

Offensive EW Equipment Suite
​

An Offensive EW equipment suite would include the following:

1. Electronic Support Measures (ESM) - This device is able to detect, identify, locate and classify enemy emitters while also possessing the capability to record emitter parameters for future Ops or post analysis. ESM sensors have reconnaissance and targeting ability.

2. Communication jammers (CJ) - These are specifically used to disrupt enemy Air Defence operations by jamming communication links in all frequency bands to hinder communications at tactical, operational and strategic level.

3. Support Jammers (SJ) - These jammers are employed against enemy AEW (Airborne early warning), surveillance systems and also radars through noise jamming and false target generation technique. SJ are used in conjunction with CJ against enemy AD architecture. Noise jamming can produce a false illumination of a fighter formation in the air which may not exist in real.

4. Electro-Magentic Pulse Weapon (EMP-W) - A weapon employed to damage or disable enemy's electronic equipment. This weapon can cause temporary hard kill to the electronic equipment which could require extensive repairs. While the enemy's electronic equipment is down, conventional weapons can be used to destroy this equipment and other targets in the designated kill zone.

5. Emitter Locating System (ELS) - The ELS gives precise location of emitter in real time which is essential for SEAD or DEAD Operations leading to a direct attack by conventional weapon like a missile (ARM-Anti radiation missile) or bombs etc. ELS can be part of ESM as it not only locates but also detects, identifies and classifies the hostile emitter.

Considering JF-17 Block III as a contender to face Rafale as well as a replacement for older PAF aircrafts like Mirage-III/V and F-7, one would hope that JF-17 is fully equipped with defensive EW suite and has the capability to be fitted with offensive EW suite to assist air strike operations along with F-16 in enemy air space considering that MAR-1 ARM has already been integrated on JF-17. PAF DA-20 Falcon EW aircraft left a major impression last year on IAF however JF-17 can be considered as an EW escort, armed with offensive EW suite, for all strike packages that PAF sends inside India.

Thanks. The idea behind the thread is great.

You dont mention the radar itself, I thought these aesa types could do directed jamming.

 

[m52k85]

Chaffs are also used as bait for the enemy.

Rwr also detects inbound missiles but only if missile activates its own radar and its usually too late for the target aircraft when M pops up on RWR (probably samething happened to Su30 last year,just my thought).RWR is just early warning,its kinda useless in BVR if bandit doesn't appear on FCR.

Defensive maneuvers are always recommended instead of relying completely on Jammers,you never know the missile might get a kill on you.

Also there's a major drawback of Jammers,enemy radars especially SAMs will have your location with pin point accuracy because of jammer emissions thus using Jammers at close range is never recommended.Music should be off at close range.You have to rely on CMDS at close range.

I wonder what's the Threat Bubble for DA-20...

Agreed, read somewhere legacy RWR are pretty daft. Inaddition to what you say, they also only give direction of threat (dont know in 2d or 3d) without any range parameters. Btw, what is CMDS?

 

[m52k85]

Btw, the MAWS on Jf-17 has been extensively discussed. With some pretty credible info from when mesciach was active. Maybe someone can do the hard work and link those posts here. If i remember correctly the JF-17 blk3 MAWS is special as it incorporates an optical system.

 

[Amaa'n]

Can we convert one of the F16Bs or Mirages to dedicated EW Aircraft like EA 18 growler

This topic is an attempt cover both EW systems - Electromagnetic and Optical - for a modern fighter aircraft.

Electronic warfare equipment can be divided into two basic types:
1. Defensive
2. Offensive

Defensive EW Equipment Suite​

A Defensive EW equipment suite would include the following:

1. Expendables - Chaff or flares, able to counter electromagnetic spectrum in both radio and optical bands.

2. Radar warning Receiver (RWR) - Gives information on the direction and type of attack to initiate counter measures.

3. Radar Homing and warning system (RHAWS) - if present, assists pilot in locating threat emitter for counter attack.

4. Missile Approach warning system (MAWS) - Can use optical and EM sensor/radar systems to detect approach of hostile missile. Optical system detects plumes from missile to give angle information while EM sensor transmits pulses to detect angle and direction of hostile missile.

5. Optical Warning Receiver (OWR) - Just like RWR but operates in optical frequency bands. They detect emissions of laser range finders (aircrafts and surface ) as well as emissions of beam riding SAMs.

6. Defensive Electronic counter measures (D-ECM) - These can conceal aircraft radar return through noise jamming technique and can break missile locks through track-breaking technique.

7. Defensive Opto-electronic counter measures (D-OECM) - Operating in optical frequency band, these use track breaking technique when tracked by Electro-Optical (E/O) devices of missile seekers or Fire control systems (FCS).

8. Towed Decoys - as the name suggests, can launch a decoy which is towed behind aircraft to attract incoming hostile missile towards itself decoy of the aircraft e.g ALE-50.

9. Proximity Fuse Jammer (PFJ) - This device emits signals to confuse approaching hostile missile causing the missile to detonate prematurely before coming in close proximity of target aircraft. It is part of deception jamming.

Lastly, a low RCS or stealthy profile helps the aircraft to survive in hostile air space.

Offensive EW Equipment Suite
​

An Offensive EW equipment suite would include the following:

1. Electronic Support Measures (ESM) - This device is able to detect, identify, locate and classify enemy emitters while also possessing the capability to record emitter parameters for future Ops or post analysis. ESM sensors have reconnaissance and targeting ability.

2. Communication jammers (CJ) - These are specifically used to disrupt enemy Air Defence operations by jamming communication links in all frequency bands to hinder communications at tactical, operational and strategic level.

3. Support Jammers (SJ) - These jammers are employed against enemy AEW (Airborne early warning), surveillance systems and also radars through noise jamming and false target generation technique. SJ are used in conjunction with CJ against enemy AD architecture. Noise jamming can produce a false illumination of a fighter formation in the air which may not exist in real.

4. Electro-Magentic Pulse Weapon (EMP-W) - A weapon employed to damage or disable enemy's electronic equipment. This weapon can cause temporary hard kill to the electronic equipment which could require extensive repairs. While the enemy's electronic equipment is down, conventional weapons can be used to destroy this equipment and other targets in the designated kill zone.

5. Emitter Locating System (ELS) - The ELS gives precise location of emitter in real time which is essential for SEAD or DEAD Operations leading to a direct attack by conventional weapon like a missile (ARM-Anti radiation missile) or bombs etc. ELS can be part of ESM as it not only locates but also detects, identifies and classifies the hostile emitter.

Considering JF-17 Block III as a contender to face Rafale as well as a replacement for older PAF aircrafts like Mirage-III/V and F-7, one would hope that JF-17 is fully equipped with defensive EW suite and has the capability to be fitted with offensive EW suite to assist air strike operations along with F-16 in enemy air space considering that MAR-1 ARM has already been integrated on JF-17. PAF DA-20 Falcon EW aircraft left a major impression last year on IAF however JF-17 can be considered as an EW escort, armed with offensive EW suite, for all strike packages that PAF sends inside India.

 

[_NOBODY_]

Can we convert one of the F16Bs or Mirages to dedicated EW Aircraft like EA 18 growler

US probably won't allow that for F-16s and it is not worth it for mirages as they are being replaced by Jeffs. It is better to create a dedicated EW variant of Jeff.

 

[Akh1112]

Chaffs are also used as bait for the enemy.

Rwr also detects inbound missiles but only if missile activates its own radar and its usually too late for the target aircraft when M pops up on RWR (probably samething happened to Su30 last year,just my thought).RWR is just early warning,its kinda useless in BVR if bandit doesn't appear on FCR.

Defensive maneuvers are always recommended instead of relying completely on Jammers,you never know the missile might get a kill on you.

Also there's a major drawback of Jammers,enemy radars especially SAMs will have your location with pin point accuracy because of jammer emissions thus using Jammers at close range is never recommended.Music should be off at close range.You have to rely on CMDS at close range.

I wonder what's the Threat Bubble for DA-20...

This is quite inaccurate. RWR's dont only work against missiles when pitbull. The point of them is to provide situational awareness, this, they do, they alert the pilot to them being tracked, or scanned, depending on the radar mode of the offensive fighter, they would be able to alert the pilot sooner. While yes you are right, RWR's will only alert the pilot of a missile when pitbull, they can alert the pilot of a track or lock way before, leading the pilot to go defensive.

 

[Talon]

Agreed, read somewhere legacy RWR are pretty daft. Inaddition to what you say, they also only give direction of threat (dont know in 2d or 3d) without any range parameters. Btw, what is CMDS?

I think 2D.

CMDS controls different modes/programs of dispensing chaffs and flares.

This is quite inaccurate. RWR's dont only work against missiles when pitbull. The point of them is to provide situational awareness, this, they do, they alert the pilot to them being tracked, or scanned, depending on the radar mode of the offensive fighter, they would be able to alert the pilot sooner. While yes you are right, RWR's will only alert the pilot of a missile when pitbull, they can alert the pilot of a track or lock way before, leading the pilot to go defensive.

Hmmm you didn't quite get me,we are talking about what is indicated on RWR.When a missile is launched on you,you wont get any warning on RWR,only SAM launch warnings are given and those are by EWS not RWR.

RWR will only indicate when missile goes Pitbull and in case of TWS launch, missile goes Pitbull when its very close to the target and as I said its pretty late at that time.

In simple words RWR indicates missile inbound warning,not missile launch warning.

Yes you do get lock warning but you won't know if the enemy aircraft has launched a missile or not.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Thanks. The idea behind the thread is great.

You dont mention the radar itself, I thought these aesa types could do directed jamming.

The more the #of digitally controlled T/R modules in arrays, the more the options for frequency and phase engineering, the better for "intelligent" and "smart" jamming....

Now, the T/R modules are as good as the III-V high power high frequency semiconductor devices you fabricate. And, III-V device fabrication is an art form. It requires tons of ingenuity, imagination, expertise etc. to design and fabricate these devices with good coherence and less device-to-device variation. The US folks, especially those trained at the Bell Labs, are very good at it. I'd like to say the Turkish folks are catching up damn fast...

 

[FOOLS_NIGHTMARE]

I'd like to say the Turkish folks are catching up damn fast...

I am extremely impressed by the indigenous Turkish defence prowess. The quality of their products puts many NATO countries at the back foot. I am a strong supporter of Turkish inputs in many of our defence related products particularly our air force. A close cooperation in JF-17s, AZM and many other products is the need of the hour.