The Chinese Century Is Already Over

[Sapei]

All I see is copium. Also don't sleep on Canada!!

Canada's Population Grows by Over 1 Million for First Time​

Canada’s Population Grows by Over 1 Million for First Time

Canada’s population grew 2.7% in 2022, the fastest expansion among advanced economies and on par with many African nations.

www.bloomberg.com

Population of North America by 2050

US: 500 million
Canada: 100 million
Mexico: 150 million

That's almost 800 million people. China is pretty much done.

These numbers are bs even according to the most optimistic scenarios.

By 2050:

USA: 375m
Canada: 46m
Mexico: 143m

Source: https://www.populationpyramid.net/

The US isn't going to get to 500 million by 2050. LOL Maybe 400 million at most. Even if China's population decreased, it would still have 1.4 billion in 2050. It just won't be growing anymore and will continue declining.

However, the fact is China's economy will continue to grow because the country is still urbanizing and optimizing its human capital. Current generations of Chinese children are going to be more educated than their Western counterparts and will likely be more productive when they grow up. There is a huge gap between the older generations of Chinese who grew up in deep poverty and were uneducated vs the ones growing up now who are living in a very technologically advanced society and have access to a strong education system and limitless information.

Lastly, for the US to continue growing its population, that means by 2050, the US will likely be 60% plus Non-White considering that the White American population has already been declining for a decade and is actually declining at a faster rate than China's. Meaning that mainstream US society will look nothing like it does today. The White perspective will become more marginalized. A US that has a majority Latino/Asian/Black population will be much less hostile to a powerful China than today's American society which is still ruled largely by White boomers who have an ingrained sense of racial supremacy and therefore, are immediately hostile to China. Most non-White young Americans will probably have no issue with the idea of a powerful non-White superpower like China and many will probably admire China. If you look at opinion polls towards China, there is a massive divide between the opinions of old White boomers and young non-White Americans (who are the majority in America's youth population under the age of 18). Young non-White Americans generally feel neutral or friendly towards China unlike the deep hostility of old White boomers. I can guarantee you that when young Black, Mestizo or Muslim teenagers see deeply racist politicians like Tom Cotton grilling Tik Tok's CEO Shou Chew, the vast majority of them would identify more with Shou than with Tom Cotton. In fact, they'd probably fucking hate Tom Cotton to begin with.

So no, America is not going to be on the same page, it won't even be the same country as it is today. America will become a non-White country and might even produce someone like Brazil's Lula who identifies strongly with the Global South and is hostile to America's largely Eurocentric heritage.

So the change in demographics will have a huge impact. The US won't be the same country.

You're right about the US figure but wrong about China's figure. China could see as low as 1.2bn people in 2050. The population trend for China will get worse year by year.

 

[beijingwalker]

You're right about the US figure but wrong about China's figure. China could see as low as 1.2bn people in 2050. The population trend for China will get worse year by year.

Population rise and fall throughout the Chinese history,what makes you believe this downward trend will persist into the far future?

 

[Sapei]

Population rise and fall throughout the Chinese history,what makes you believe this downward trend will persist into the far future?

It will continue as long as the current economic "regime" is in place. Japan and SK both experienced rapid industrialization like China and have not been able to reverse the trend. The trend is chronic and not something subsidies can do much about.

 

[beijingwalker]

Chinese state media CCTV’s sharply worded commentary on Thursday said the subtext from Western media in recent years was that China’s development was in “big trouble” and that when the country’s demographic dividend disappears, it will decline and the global economy will also suffer.

“They slandered all the way and China has developed all the way, creating a miracle of sustainable and stable economic development with a huge population,” CCTV said.

“The United States is stepping up efforts to contain China’s development and advocate further decoupling and found new hype points from the United Nations report,” CCTV said, adding that the West simply equated population size with development achievements.

“Such hype lacks a basic understanding of the law of population development. With the development of human society today, the decrease in birth rate and decline in willingness to bear children are common problems faced by the whole world.”

CCTV added that Western developed countries generally faced problems such as labour shortages.

Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson Wang Wenbin said population dividends did not only depend on quantity but also quality.

“Population is important but talents are also important… China has taken active measures to respond to population ageing,” Wang told reporters on Wednesday.

The country still has over 900 million ‘quality’ workforce, says China .

 

[ZeEa5KPul]

It will continue as long as the current economic "regime" is in place. Japan and SK both experienced rapid industrialization like China and have not been able to reverse the trend. The trend is chronic and not something subsidies can do much about.

That you compare China to Korea and Japan shows you have no idea what you're talking about.

 

[tower9]

These numbers are bs even according to the most optimistic scenarios.

By 2050:

USA: 375m
Canada: 46m
Mexico: 143m

Source: https://www.populationpyramid.net/



You're right about the US figure but wrong about China's figure. China could see as low as 1.2bn people in 2050. The population trend for China will get worse year by year.

1.2 billion by 2050 is absurd. Japan’s population has been in deep decline for four decades and has only gone from 135 million to 125 million now.

 

[VCheng]

To be honest, the govt structure of the USA is simply not capable of governing a country with a population of 800 million.

Please do tell us, honestly, on how exactly have you arrived at this conclusion?

The US won't be the same country.

USA has never been, or will ever be, a static country. It is always changing, by design.

 

[ProudThamizhan]

China can reclaim some respectability if they enact and enforce proper IP laws, restore religious freedom and come out with the real covid virus leak info

 

[Ahmadbhutta01]

Agree. China made many far sighted policies. No immigrant is one of them.

But it's the immigrant that built usa , all mutli billionaire companies owner had immigrated or their forefather migrated to USA at some point . Usa has a policy to attract the brainiest people from all over the world and award them handsomely

 

[beijingwalker]

But it's the immigrant that built usa , all mutli billionaire companies owner had immigrated or their forefather migrated to USA at some point . Usa has a policy to attract the brainiest people from all over the world and award them handsomely

Not always, if a country declines, it'll soon lose that appeal too

This is quite momentous: China is now the country in the world attracting the most scientists, the US is now experiencing a net outflow of scientists.

This is quite momentous: China is now the country in the world attracting the most scientists, meanwhile the US is now experiencing a net outflow of scientists. China now has a net inflow of scientists. In contrast, the US, which greatly benefited from talent inflow in the past, saw an outflow...

defence.pk

 

[Zsari]

These numbers are bs even according to the most optimistic scenarios.

By 2050:

USA: 375m
Canada: 46m
Mexico: 143m

Source: https://www.populationpyramid.net/



You're right about the US figure but wrong about China's figure. China could see as low as 1.2bn people in 2050. The population trend for China will get worse year by year.

As low as 1.2bn people? 1.2bn is still too high, not low.

 

[Bengal71]

Chinese and Asian century is just beginning.

 

[tower9]

Please do tell us, honestly, on how exactly have you arrived at this conclusion?



USA has never been, or will ever be, a static country. It is always changing, by design.

Of course. And those changes will have major impacts.

 

[VCheng]

Of course. And those changes will have major impacts.

USA's impact on the world thus far has been significant, and it is likely to continue for a good while yet.

 

[tower9]

USA's impact on the world thus far has been significant, and it is likely to continue for a good while yet.

Absolutely.

At the same time, deluded American nationalists have to understand that China HAS ARRIVED AND WILL NOT BE GOING AWAY.

China has been one of the world's pre-eminent civilizations and the largest economy for most of the last 3000 years. The last 150 years or so where China was weak and backward was an anomaly. We are actually returning back to normalcy with China as a major superpower.

Just like how the US, Germany, Japan all arrived as powerful industrialized nations in the late 19th century. China has arrived in the early 21st century as probably the most powerful industrialized country the world has ever seen. It's not going away. It's actually just getting started.