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The British Raj in the sub-continent was a good thing for the muslims?

when Brits came someone sided with them and it costed sub-continent alot, to begun with its freedom.
 
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The economic problem only existed among Bengali Muslims but Pakistanis pretend this to be the problem of entire Muslims of British India particularly the North-West. :laugh: In some parts of India like UP they were more educated than Hindus. Punjabi Muslims were the most prosperous with the canal colony boom brought by British in entire Punjab making Punjab the most prosperous province of British India. In case of Sindh the Hindus constituted the educated and business class while Muslims owned the land. Even after seven decades of Independence, entire Sindhi Muslim community still live in villages, so I don't think someone responsible for their backwardness.

British colonial policy in the fertile Punjab was to collect more land revenues, thus led to the massive canalization program. But how did it helped the ordinary peasantry class? In 1865 where only 6% of the farmers were seriously indebted, the figure sprang to 80% in 1879 and 87% in 1923 just because of their agrarian policies.
 
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British colonial policy in the fertile Punjab was to collect more land revenues, thus led to the massive canalization program. But how did it helped the ordinary peasantry class? In 1865 where only 6% of the farmers were seriously indebted, the figure sprang to 80% in 1879 and 87% in 1923 just because of their agrarian policies.

That was because of their own Muslim landlords but till the end people voted for feudalist Punjab Unionist Party and Sindh Ittehad Party in Punjab and Sindh respectively. The votes of Unionist mainly came from Muslims while Hindus and Sikhs stayed away from them.
 
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That was because of their own Muslim landlords but till the end people voted for feudalist Punjab Unionist Party and Sindh Ittehad Party in Punjab and Sindh respectively. The votes of Unionist mainly came from Muslims while Hindus stayed away from them.

This is why I mentioned about the Muslim feudal lords in my first post itself. The British with their exploiting land revenue policies and the Hindu-Muslim land owner class all are to be blamed for the precariousness of the ordinary and lower strata Muslims of this region.
 
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This is why I mentioned about the Muslim feudal lords in my first post itself. The British with their exploiting land revenue policies and the Hindu-Muslim land owner class all are to be blamed for the precariousness of the ordinary and lower strata Muslims of this region.

That's true but people who wanted Pakistan had only a selective opposition towards the Hindu landlords or Hindu educated class, that's why unionist had huge following across North-West and they even made a deal with Muslim League. The Muslim Landlords of North-West didn't face the same kind of criticism unlike the Hindu landlords in Bengal.
 
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The economic problem only existed among Bengali Muslims but Pakistanis pretend this to be the problem of entire Muslims of British India particularly the North-West. :laugh: In some parts of India like UP they were more educated than Hindus. Punjabi Muslims were the most prosperous with the canal colony boom brought by British in entire Punjab making Punjab the most prosperous province of British India. In case of Sindh the Hindus constituted the educated and business class while Muslims owned the land. Even after seven decades of Independence, entire Sindhi Muslim community still live in villages, so I don't think someone responsible for their backwardness.



That sounds gibberish. :cheesy: When Muslim League was being non cooperative in number of things being it keeping a strong union, constituent assembly, status of princely states, it was indeed beneficial for us that Pakistan separated.
You still have the enthusiasm to continue arguing with logic? :crazy:
Do you still believe that you can convince people that Hindus are not evil or hypocrites?
 
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We are from a land where the people accepted "prosecuted" jews who escaped from the christians, we accepted "prosecuted" christians who escaped from the Arabs, we accepted "prosecuted" Parsis who escaped from the Arabs, Shias, even now Ahmedis we are protecting.
And this guys is talking we want to wipe out one community. Tolerance is the only way, a nation can stand. If the people arent tolerant it will go down into chaos.
 
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When British arrived, Muslims were loosing to Marathas. India was independent from Mughals 100s of year before Brits came. Muslims (Who have allegiance only to there Arabic religion and arabic god) were pro british, They never participated in freedom movement. Out of 1000s of revolutionary We have only one Muslim "Ashfaq-ulla-Khan".

Muslim wanted there Mughal rule which was not possible so they devided the country and our visionless leader agreed to it.
 
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Slavery is not good for anyone. :rolleyes:

And as for ur talk about jinnah created pakistan we all know how peaceful and prosperous you are living in other side of border. :wave:
 
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it was a good thing, after the defeat of the afghan by the Sikhs the Muslims were extremely vulnerable to the Marathas & Sikhs, the British actually saved us from the Marathas & the Sikhs however we made a foolish & a catastrophic mistake by shunning the British education that was an extremely stupid decision by our forefathers which in fact had the most adverse & negative social effect on the Muslims in the decades that followed it was followed by another stupid decision of participating in the useless 1857 mutiny which caused a friendly British to turn hostile
so to sum it up it was a good thing but unfortunately the Muslims of British India failed to utilize this opportunity
 
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You are preconceived by the notion that if British were not there to fill the power vacuum, Hindu rulers would have wiped out the entire Muslim population. We don't know what would have happened if this was to be the case, but the British did no better to the Muslims of this sub continent. After 1857, the British Raj's intention was specific. Divide and Rule and sadly the Muslims were never in their list of favorites. The peasant class became poorer and poorer (They were already being deprived by their Muslim feudal lords before the English contingent of Merchants rested their feet on the soil of Bengal) and the Zamindars went on sucking the poor becoming richer and richer.

The Muslim educated class also faced massive opposition from the orthodox mullahs when they tried to refurbish the Muslim society and introduce them to the mainstream Indian society which was enjoying the effects of western education. As you have mentioned about Sir Sayed Ahmad Khan, you must know the opinion of the Mullahs and Maulavis about this great man.

Hindus have their own share of depriving the Muslims of this region,but that share was never higher than that of the British and the Muslims themselves had. So, please come out of your blind prejudice. Honestly it brings more damage to all of us.

He tried to make Muslims understand the importance of education.

The British introduced education gave huge advantages to those we attained it. Majority of them were Hindus.
 
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it was a good thing, after the defeat of the afghan by the Sikhs the Muslims were extremely vulnerable to the Marathas & Sikhs, the British actually saved us from the Marathas & the Sikhs however we made a foolish & a catastrophic mistake by shunning the British education that was an extremely stupid decision by our forefathers which in fact had the most adverse & negative social effect on the Muslims in the decades that followed it was followed by another stupid decision of participating in the useless 1857 mutiny which caused a friendly British to turn hostile
so to sum it up it was a good thing but unfortunately the Muslims of British India failed to utilize that opportunity
well guess what hindus took the opportunity and went ahead with british style education and it had many great results for hindus + in time it realli gave hindus masses sense of leadership , freedom , equality and juistice which led many to join freedom movement while muslims went ahead with there mullahs and there pro feudal elite and results are there for every one to see
 
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it was a good thing, after the defeat of the afghan by the Sikhs the Muslims were extremely vulnerable to the Marathas & Sikhs, the British actually saved us from the Marathas & the Sikhs however we made a foolish & a catastrophic mistake by shunning the British education that was an extremely stupid decision by our forefathers which in fact had the most adverse & negative social effect on the Muslims in the decades that followed it was followed by another stupid decision of participating in the useless 1857 mutiny which caused a friendly British to turn hostile
so to sum it up it was a good thing but unfortunately the Muslims of British India failed to utilize that opportunity


I said the same thing.. Bloody Industrial revolution happen (in Europe) at wrong time which made west very powerful, otherwise Muslims would have reverted to there real (True) religion.. :) Like Buddhism Islam would have been vanished from Indian subcontinent .

And there would not be any terrorism in Indian subcontinent / India.(From Afghanistan to Burma)

PS: Buddhists were peacefully reverted to there religion. There was no crime on them, similarly under Maratha rule Muslims would have been reverted to there real religion.
 
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Our true religion is islam, the will of God

We would never have gone back to worshipping monkeys or idols

The Muslims were too strong to be subdued and had a history of domination of the sub continent, even without the Mughals there was the likes of Tipu Sultan etc

A stong muslim sub continent would have defeated the british and other colonials, its was sikh and marath ineptitude that meant their rule was short and pathetic and their fight against the british was shamefull
 
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1) There are more Muslims in India than the entire population of Pakistan.

2)After the death of Aurangzeb in 1707, Marathas were de-factor the most powerful force in the sub-continent till 1850s.

3) This false notion of future slavery is probed bogus many a times.

its was sikh and marath ineptitude that meant their rule was short and pathetic and their fight against the british was shamefull
Who were Mir Jafar and Mir Sadiq? British rule started in India, thanks to these two traitors.:coffee:
 
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