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The Big Picture Muslims in India today are revisiting the same fears as they did in 1947

Time for another Muslim state in india.

Dividing of the remaining india is inevitable. Hindus don’t have the civilizational capacity to maintain their state. Hence it keeps shrinking in size since forever loool!

Hindus lost Afghanistan, Sindh, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Indonesia, and Malaysia from their control. Islam completed erased weak and backwards hindusim from these lands.

Islam might divide the remaining india even further, if hindus don’t learn to bow down and respect indian Muslims :coffee: I am sure hindus will tho


Very good and sage post.

Hindus don’t have the civilizational capacity to maintain their state...and tolerance and difference of opinion and accepting it is a part of a great civilization, Muslims are taught and supposed to be tolerant and humble, Sabar, Shukar and Zikar...it is another thing many of us Muslims don't follow it, but quite a large part of it follows it.

And as it is said only a few pious Muslims(people) will be good enough reason for the larger group of Muslims/people to reap the benefit...it means there is 'hikmah' to be and do good overall.
 
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Very good and sage post.

Hindus don’t have the civilizational capacity to maintain their state...and tolerance and difference of opinion and accepting it is a part of a great civilization, Muslims are taught and supposed to be tolerant and humble, Sabar, Shukar and Zikar...it is another thing many of us Muslims don't follow it, but quite a large part of it follows it.

And as it is said only a few pious Muslims(people) will be good enough reason for the larger group of Muslims/people to reap the benefit...it means there is 'hikmah' to be and do good overall.

Merely shooting down Indian planes, releasing the pilot Abhi, and creating the Kartarpur corridor has done permanent damage to the Indian state.

Muslim needs to be strong and sure of himself, and extend the hand of mercy when possible, and strike hard when the enemy gets out of line.

It’s a simple formula for success followed by our ancestors. Have tawakkul ilallah, rest will be fine.
 
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Merely shooting down Indian planes, releasing the pilot Abhi, and creating the Kartarpur corridor has done permanent damage to the Indian state.

Muslim needs to be strong and sure of himself, and extend the hand of mercy when possible, and strike hard when the enemy gets out of line.

It’s a simple formula for success followed by our ancestors. Have tawakkul ilallah, rest will be fine.


Yes be strong and graceful and at the same time show humility and humbleness....Pakistan exactly did this with release of Abhi, got hold of him and set him free...nothing is more prudent.

The main fault line in India is the huge and intrinsic Caste system in Hinduism, call it apartheid and racism and in this age of information availability, globalization and people looking for freedom, it is only a matter of time India implodes into anarchy and civilian chaos if not wars.
 
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It’s a simple formula for success followed by our ancestors. Have tawakkul ilallah, rest will be fine.
Show love and respect for your brothers and argue with them in a best manner. They were subjected to 70 years long propaganda by Hindu majority and their idiotic/traitor forefathers.

Invite to the way of your lord with wisdom and good instruction, and argue with them in a way that is best. An Nahl 125
 
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The 'big picture' comprises of several small stories, the operative words in most such instances is rampant encroachment by immigrants, sometimes illegal. This has been a recurring theme in my state, and when police action is sought the perpetrators cry wolf.

The pristine environment of one of the last remaining abodes of the one-horned rhinoceros has not even been spared, and i have been a witness to it. Modus operandi is simple. Scouts target an area after careful consideration, few families rapidly move in at first, makeshift shelters and places of worship are constructed overnight. Once that is done there begins a steady stream of immigrants from places elsewhere, and in no time a settlement comes into form. These then begin to attract the drug and human traffickers, armed gangs and the poachers who live in their midst. The place becomes out of bounds for the general populace.In many cases, they thrive with the patronage and blessings of local politicians.

This has been the story in my state, as well in Meerut, and has nothing to do with minorities being targeted.

You cannot claim what's not yours, for if you do the state will come down with a heavy hand, such illegal settlements will be razed down to the ground.
 
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The 'big picture' comprises of several small stories, the operative words in most such instances is rampant encroachment by immigrants, sometimes illegal. This has been a recurring theme in my state, and when police action is sought the perpetrators cry wolf.

The pristine environment of one of the last remaining abodes of the one-horned rhinoceros has not even been spared, and i have been a witness to it. Modus operandi is simple. Scouts target an area after careful consideration, few families rapidly move in at first, makeshift shelters and places of worship are constructed overnight. Once that is done there begins a steady stream of immigrants from places elsewhere, and in no time a settlement comes into form. These then begin to attract the drug and human traffickers, armed gangs and the poachers who live in their midst. The place becomes out of bounds for the general populace.In many cases, they thrive with the patronage and blessings of local politicians.

This has been the story in my state, as well in Meerut, and has nothing to do with minorities being targeted.

You cannot claim what's not yours, for if you do the state will come down with a heavy hand, such illegal settlements will be razed down to the ground.
And these illegal immigrants are always Muslim?
 
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Nah... Not a good destination for 300K Million ppl... A good part of the country will be under water in the future... Not a good investment...
They will mostly shape it like Pakistan... Next to Pakistan... Then Pakistan can't say they aren't surrounded by the Ummah anymore...

I do not think you fully understand the history of subcontinental Muslims.
 
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@jamahir jab tak khushaal hai. india me musalman abaad hain.

simplesss hai

Sahi kaha.

I see it like this :

The increasing Hindutva radicalization of the Indian society is not just a problem for Muslims, it is a problem for secular Hindus and other minorities as well.

This is the equivalent of Pakistan during Zia's time.

An anti-Right Hindu like @Joe Shearer , a Parsi like @padamchen and a Christian like @jbgt90 will have their own worries about the current situation.

But the good news is that even when the background society is radicalizing, much of the state structure is thankfully secular due to the work of people like Nehru.

Also, one more indicator of any remaining secular thought and sensibility in India is the Bollywood industry, however much it can be criticized.

Lastly, I see my current situation like the character Sikander from the film Garam Hawa. When his family decides to move to Pakistan at last some time after Partition, he sees a protest march against unemployment and decides to join the march and remain in India.
 
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Sahi kaha.

I see it like this :

The increasing Hindutva radicalization of the Indian society is not just a problem for Muslims, it is a problem for secular Hindus and other minorities as well.

This is the equivalent of Pakistan during Zia's time.

An anti-Right Hindu like @Joe Shearer , a Parsi like @padamchen and a Christian like @jbgt90 will have their own worries about the current situation.

But the good news is that even when the background society is radicalizing, much of the state structure is thankfully secular due to the work of people like Nehru.

Also, one more indicator of any remaining secular thought and sensibility in India is the Bollywood industry, however much it can be criticized.

Lastly, I see my current situation like the character Sikander from the film Garam Hawa. When his family decides to move to Pakistan at last some time after Partition, he sees a protest march against unemployment and decides to join the march and remain in India.

inspiring khutba to say the least.

But your obsession with Pakistan is troubling to say the least.
 
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And these illegal immigrants are always Muslim?
It scant matters if they are Hindus or Muslims, this is a law and order problem. The long arm of the law is bound to catch you by the throat if you transgress. We cannot have people creating and living in illegal settlements, encroaching upon ecologically fragile areas, much less indulge in criminal activities.
 
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