The Big Picture Muslims in India today are revisiting the same fears as they did in 1947

[El Sidd]

After all Nehru and Gandhi are his leaders. Dont know if they will lead him in after life or not. @jamahir Sorry bro, if my comment is bit offensive. May Allah guide you to the right path.

Who cares man? Let them be with their destiny

 

[Peaceful Civilian]

Western countries used this partition for their own benefit. They never want to see us united.

 

[jamahir]

inspiring khutba to say the least.

Back to your droll troll style, eh ??

But your obsession with Pakistan is troubling to say the least.

Did I go wrong in mentioning Pakistan and Zia ul Haq ??

After all Nehru and Gandhi are his leaders. Dont know if they will lead him in after life or not. @jamahir Sorry bro, if my comment is bit offensive. May Allah guide you to the right path.

Well, i am to the Left, so Nehru is not particularly my leader, though I recognize his contribution to building a secular India.

 

[El Sidd]

Did I go wrong in mentioning Pakistan and Zia ul Haq ??

You do not have to mention Pakistan. Gandhi was killed long before Zia was in Pakistani power circles.

Back to your droll troll style, eh ??

You cannot stop your hate against Pakistan. I cannot stop trolling you.

 

[jamahir]

You cannot stop your hate against Pakistan.

Can you point out a single from my 13,500+ posts where I have spewed hate against Pakistan ??

I am not a jingoistic ultra-nationalist.

 

[El Sidd]

Can you point out a single from my 13,500+ posts where I have spewed hate against Pakistan ??

Yes.

by constantly wishing India and Pakistan to be the same it is hate speech against Pakistan.

I am not a jingoistic ultra-nationalist.

You are an Indian.
Adjectives you can choose any you like

 

[Rollno21]

They are smarter than you though. They are increasing their population rapidly, soon they will be significant group to demand a separate country carved out of India. Sooner or later that will happen.

It's not the size of the population that matters these days ,it's the knowledge .the days of brute Force are long gone .it's education that Muslims need .education will solve most of the problems faced by Muslims around the world

Very good and sage post.

Hindus don’t have the civilizational capacity to maintain their state...and tolerance and difference of opinion and accepting it is a part of a great civilization, Muslims are taught and supposed to be tolerant and humble, Sabar, Shukar and Zikar...it is another thing many of us Muslims don't follow it, but quite a large part of it follows it.

And as it is said only a few pious Muslims(people) will be good enough reason for the larger group of Muslims/people to reap the benefit...it means there is 'hikmah' to be and do good overall.

India is the only country in the world which has all the Muslims sects.every one who has come to India has found refuge and flurished in India .
Show me which Islamic country can match that.you guys should learn to o live peacefully with others instead of making it a hell

 

[jamahir]

by constantly wishing India and Pakistan to be the same it is hate speech against Pakistan.

So I take it that you are against the Aman ki Asha project in which are Pakistani participants too.

By the way, I have said before that if India and Pakistan cannot reunite then at least both can be independent republics but with a common progressive political system, like Syria and former Iraq with their common Ba'ath system.

If you cannot accept at least the second then you don't have Pakistan's progressive future in mind.

You are an Indian.
Adjectives you can choose any you like

I am first a humanist.

 

[El Sidd]

Aman ki Asha project

Who launched this project?

common progressive political system

Why? India and Pakistan are too different political ideologies. Why cant you live with this reality?

 

[N.Siddiqui]

India is the only country in the world which has all the Muslims sects.every one who has come to India has found refuge and flurished in India .
Show me which Islamic country can match that.you guys should learn to o live peacefully with others instead of making it a hell

Repost of @AUz

Dividing of the remaining india is inevitable. Hindus don’t have the civilizational capacity to maintain their state. Hence it keeps shrinking in size since forever loool!

Hindus lost Afghanistan, Sindh, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Indonesia, and Malaysia from their control. Islam completed erased weak and backwards hindusim from these lands.


Adding on I agree with India the only country in the world...but with different connotations.

-India is the only country in the world with a functioning Apartheid system, where human beings are divided on higher caste and lower caste, don't want to go into the hideous detail...too repugnant a subject to discuss. This is really filthy and inhuman.

This can not function practically in the 21 st century and beyond for a longer period, the more people are waking up to the demand of equality and inclusiveness, the more people are rising for their right, their freedom, their equality in India, the more chances of India dividing on religious and regional lines...

 

[Mutakalim]

Well, i am to the Left, so Nehru is not particularly my leader, though I recognize his contribution to building a secular India

What about Gandhi? He is also not your leader or Imam?

 

[jamahir]

Who launched this project?

I believe it was the joint initiative of The Jang Group of Pakistan and the Times Of India.

Also I remember vaguely of one Pakistani fashion house which had an outlet in Delhi.

Good initiatives these.

Why? India and Pakistan are too different political ideologies. Why cant you live with this reality?

I am a socialist/humanist and my concern is all of humanity and I see that in Pakistan too there are many people who need release from capitalism and other forms of exploitation.

 

[El Sidd]

I am a socialist/humanist and my concern is all of humanity and I see that in Pakistan too there are many people who need release from capitalism and other forms of exploitation.

Why don't you climb the towers of Delhi mosque and declare yourself as the Messiah of Humanity?

 

[jamahir]

What about Gandhi? He is also not your leader or Imam?

Gandhi is the accepted Father of the nation who even wanted Jinnah to be the PM of Undivided India but Nehru refused to allow Jinnah that.

Why don't you climb the towers of Delhi mosque and declare yourself as the Messiah of Humanity?

Maybe some years down the line.

 

[Mutakalim]

Gandhi is the accepted Father of the nation

Apna apna Emaan ha bhaii . Nothing more can be said.

who even wanted Jinnah to be the PM of Undivided India but Nehru refused to allow Jinnah that.

Jinnah rejected that proposal. Why every time you forget to mention this.

You use the word Imam, and the current Imam who I believe in is Gaddafi, doesn't matter if he is dead or alive.

Still, your loyalties lie with Bharat Maata, whats the difference? IMHO Gaddafi is million times better than an Infidel.