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The Battle for Bajaur - PA seizes control

Human Rights Watch has provided the only balanced study that I've seen which attempts to identify the cost of insurgent actions in Afghanistan-

The Human Cost-HRW

It is nearly two years old but closely chronicles the resurgence of insurgent activity and the use of civilians to further their objectives over an approximate 15 months of 2006 and early 2007.
 
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Praying won do..U need to start doing something abt it..Just look at the names that r used in this forum..Musalman,786,agnosticmuslim n apparently these r educated moderate pakis using internet daily..I wonder wat our brethren in the villages must be thinking..To kill all indians n israelis..To nuke the world...One mr wahraich also suggested that all indians n israelis be banned from this forum..N that Sharia be implemented in Pakiatan in toto...

If we identify ourselves with religion rather as individuals then i say its a big problem..never seen anyone from china using `confucious123` or guys from west use `chritian24` names.

We need to use more common sense n science than religion...Till then allah cant help us...N if religion were a solution then we wouldnt be in a mess..I doubt obama is more religious than mullah omar
 
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Praying won do..U need to start doing something abt it..Just look at the names that r used in this forum..Musalman,786,agnosticmuslim n apparently these r educated moderate pakis using internet daily..I wonder wat our brethren in the villages must be thinking..To kill all indians n israelis..To nuke the world...One mr wahraich also suggested that all indians n israelis be banned from this forum..N that Sharia be implemented in Pakiatan in toto...

If we identify ourselves with religion rather as individuals then i say its a big problem..never seen anyone from china using `confucious123` or guys from west use `chritian24` names.

We need to use more common sense n science than religion...Till then allah cant help us...N if religion were a solution then we wouldnt be in a mess..I doubt obama is more religious than mullah omar

I never said indians or israeli should be banned from forum but there should be certain limits for them not allowed to know about our defence strategic plans or short comings.They are our enemies.

Islam for muslim is life line .Our prophet Muhammad PBUH told us how to spend 24 hours of our daily life .Islam is complete religion and valid uptill last day if you have believe.

Why we muslims are in mess because of idealogy ,mythology of "adah tetar adah bateer".

Make your records straight :enjoy:
 
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Bajaur Taliban offer conditional truce
Sunday, February 22, 2009

By Mushtaq Yusufzai

PESHAWAR: The Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP), Bajaur chapter, on Saturday offered to renounce militancy and remain peaceful if the ongoing military operation against them was stopped. According to tribesmen, the operation has caused more losses to them than the militants.

The government had launched a full-fledged military operation, involving jet fighters, gunship helicopters and artillery guns, against the militants in Bajaur on August 6, 2008, causing displacement of around half-a-million people. The operation, however, inflicted heavy losses on the militants.

The Baitullah Mehsud-led TTP, which was formed on December 14, 2007, including all the militant organisations operating in the tribal areas and settled districts of the NWFP, had announced that none of its component groups would sign a peace accord with the government separately.

However, the TTP leadership allowed its Swat chapter, led by Maulana Fazlullah, to negotiate a peace deal with the Awami National Party-led NWFP government last year.

In Bajaur, the military operation was launched rather late. Yet it was fierce and deadly and has been continuing for the past several months.

Several villages have been flattened in the heavy bombing by warplanes and gunship choppers. The government claimed to have killed more than 1,500 Taliban militants, destroying their command and control system.

Though the local tribesmen disagree with the government on the number of militants’ casualties yet they admit the military operation has weakened the capability of the militants to continue activities in the region.

“The seven-month operation has forced the militants either to leave the region or go underground, which I personally think is a great success of the government against the militants,” said a senior tribal journalist in Bajaur, who pleaded anonymity.

He said the militants, who before the operation were in control of most parts of Bajaur, had been restricted to their hideouts in Charmang and Mamond areas. “Any kind of peace deal with them at this stage will make them stronger again,” he observed.

The TTP spokesman Maulvi Omar admitted that peace talks with the government were under way through a Jirga comprising tribal elders and senior civil and military officials.

However, he said they did not trust the government’s peace talks as earlier when their negotiations had entered a crucial phase, the government sent troops to Inayat Kellay, one of their strongholds, and used jet fighters, gunship helicopters and tanks to pound their positions.

After that deadlock, Omar said, talks between them and the government resumed but the government continued pounding their positions heavily in Mamond and Inayat Kellay.

“Earlier, they launched the war against us to appease President Bush and now for his successor Barack Obama,” the spokesman noted.

The Taliban in Bajaur have presented six demands for restoration of peace in the region. Omar said they had informed the Jirga, negotiating the peace deal between them and the government, about their conditions.

He said the government would need to announce a ceasefire and withdraw the regular Army from Bajaur. The paramilitary Frontier Corps (FC) would be allowed to remain in Bajaur but in barracks.

Similarly, he said all roadside checkpoints manned by the Army, the FC and Khassadar Force should be removed.

Another condition put forward by the militants for peace accord was compensation to the militants and tribesmen for their losses they had suffered in the military operation. Omar said they wanted exchange of prisoners as the government was holding several of their people while they too, had taken hostage the government people, including soldiers.

He also said the government would have to help over five hundred thousand displaced tribesmen now living in refugee camps in Dir, Mardan, Peshawar and Nowshera to return.

However, Omar alleged that there were differences between the elected government and military officials over the peace initiative. He feared the peace process could derail once again.

Bajaur Taliban offer conditional truce

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The PA approach in Bajaur is interesting in comparison to the one taken in Swat. The Pak Mil. has routed the Taliban in some of the heaviest fighting to date in FATA (oh where oh where has that little piggy Roggio gone, oh where oh where can he beeeeee), and continues to attack the few remaining militant redoubts. It has left the option for a political solution open, and engaged in talks with the militants, but it has not let allowed the militants any breathing space and is not negotiating from a position of weakness.

This contrasts strongly with the situation in Swat, and I think that is because Swat, under the NWFP government of the ANP, has had to deal with the political compulsions of the ANP.
 
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The Taliban in Bajaur have presented six demands for restoration of peace in the region. Omar said they had informed the Jirga, negotiating the peace deal between them and the government, about their conditions.

He said the government would need to announce a ceasefire and withdraw the regular Army from Bajaur. The paramilitary Frontier Corps (FC) would be allowed to remain in Bajaur but in barracks.

Similarly, he said all roadside checkpoints manned by the Army, the FC and Khassadar Force should be removed.

IMO accepting these conditions is exactly what lead to the past peace deals failing. Without an FC presence at least in the form of patrols and enforcement of a policy of 'no militia's' any peace deal will result in the Taliban re-establishing themselves.

On the other hand, if the Army FC ensure militia disbanding, and the local tribes offer assurances on enforcing the deal, then perhaps compromise can be achieved. In any case, a peace deal needs to be accompanied with the establishment of some sort of political system that will be respected by all sides and be the sole authority in the area.
 
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TTB haven't said anything about disarming and all their conditions facilitate their reconstitution. It's a facade. Continue leaning upon them, please?

"This contrasts strongly with the situation in Swat, and I think that is because Swat, under the NWFP government of the ANP, has had to deal with the political compulsions of the ANP."

Population densities, territorial size, and a different legal code may be affecting this. So too SWAT's tourist mecca rep. SWAT WILL be rebuilt. The question is how much can be saved before doing so?
 
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How about starting a campaign in Pakistan with the slogan "No Muslim will hurt a muslim and no Pakistani will hurt a Pakistani".

I think this can become attractive for the public and has the potential of catching the imagination of the nation.
 
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peace deal in bajur doesnt make sence anymore. talibans are on back foot. houses have already been destroyed, villages have been flattened and lives lost. withdrawin army would mean lettin these talibans come back and regroup. army shouldnt be withdrawn untill situation in afghanistan improves which will only happen with the departure of invading troops in afghanistan
 
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Pakistani Forces Close To Securing Tribal Region

Pakistani forces fighting Taliban and al Qaeda insurgents expect to have the tribal region of Bajaur in control by mid-March, the general in charge of the campaign told Reuters on Monday.
Heavy fighting began in August in Bajaur, described as a "centre of gravity" for militancy in the region, but two valleys still have to be cleared, Major General Tariq Khan said.

Victory in Bajaur will provide relief for U.S. and NATO forces hard-pressed by the insurgents across the border in eastern Afghanistan.

Tribal elders involved in talks with militants, said Faqir Mohammad, the main Taliban commander in Bajaur, could offer a ceasefire imminently.

During the interview at the Frontier Corp's headquarters in historic Balahisar Fort, in the northwestern city of Peshawar,, Khan received word that his forces had taken the strategically important village of Barchina.

"It means that Charmang is now in our hands," he said, referring to one of the remaining valleys leading to eastern Afghanistan.

He foresaw the offensive continuing until mid-March, but added; "These are not deadlines, they're judgements".

He said he was forced to carry out an offensive in neighbouring Mohmand tribal area after militants launched a major attack on his forces there last month.

Khan said the attack failed but prodded him into action, and military convoys now pass safely through Mohmand.

Khan was switched to Bajaur and appointed commander of the paramilitary Frontier Corps (FC) weeks after the fighting began to hot up in the most northeasterly of Pakistan's seven semi-autonomous tribal regions.

The Frontier Corps is recruited from the ethnic Pashtun tribes of the region, and they have led the fighting in Bajaur because their presence is more acceptable to the fiercely independent tribesmen.

The government helped mobilise tribal armies, known as lashkars, to help combat the militants in Bajaur.

HAMPERED BY TENSIONS

Thick-set and bespectacled, Khan is Pashtun, and has a strong understanding of the people and tribal dynamics.

His appointment was welcomed by senior U.S. military officials, impressed by Khan's success in bottling up militants led by Pakistani Taliban leader Baitullah Mehsud in the South Waziristan tribal region.

Pakistani military officials said in October that more than 1,500 militants, including Chechans, Uzbeks and Arabs had been killed in battles in Bajaur, though there had been no independent verification of the claims.

Khan said his forces had eliminated several middle-tier militant leaders, but he regretted not having wound up the offensive sooner.

"We should have finished these operations much earlier."

The delay in completing the Bajaur campaign was a result a particularly severe winter and tensions with India in the aftermath of an attack on the Indian city of Mumbai by Pakistani militants last November.

He said "two battalions" were redeployed because of the weather and concern on the eastern border with India.

The New York Times reported on Sunday that 70 American military advisers were in Pakistan training the army and paramilitary forces, but Khan denied this, complaining at the inadequacy of U.S. support.

"Are Americans giving us any lethal assistance? Do we get any rocket launchers or bombs or aircraft (from them)? We are getting nothing actually," he said.

"What we are getting are bullet-proof jackets, helmets, water bottles ... medication, surveillance equipment and communication equipment," he said.

The United States had given close to $44 million worth of equipment to the Frontier Corps till last year, but has given billions of dollars in aid to help Pakistan fight militancy since it became an ally in 2001.
Pakistani Forces Close To Securing Tribal Region - World - Javno
 
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ISLAMABAD, Feb. 23 (Xinhua) -- A Taliban commander in Pakistan's tribal region on Monday announced an unilateral ceasefire, local television reported.

Maulana Faqir Mohammad, a local Taliban leader in Bajaur tribal agency, has made the announcement on the radio, Dawn News TV channel quoted sources as saying.

More than 1000 people have been killed during the fighting between Pakistani security forces and the militants in the Bajaur agency on the Afghan border since July.

The announcement just came as the Taliban group led by Maulana Fazalullah is considering a permanent ceasefire with the government in the restive northwestern Swat valley.

Last week, Taliban in Swat announced a 10-day ceasefire to review the peace deal after a Pakistani cleric signed an agreement with the government.

But the western countries fear that the deal will help provide safe haven for the Taliban and al-Qaeda extremists in the region.

Pakistan Taliban announces unilateral ceasefire in tribal region_English_Xinhua
 
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That's cool..I hope the fighting ends soon as a lot of people are affected by this..
 
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I wish I could say that this is great but I can't ... Mehsood & co. just lost some strategic locations to PA and this is more like a time buying tactic ... besides Mehsood seems to be on the same side as Brahamdagh Bugti.

Pakistan Army should tell them to surrender or face the music. :pakistan:
 
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