The Attack on Pakistan's Erieye

[somebozo]

It has been said time and time again the US and India want a stable and prosperous Pakistan. And this is not hot air,this is purely selfish- worrying about Pakistan is costing both nations 10s of billions of USD not to mention if Pakistan is operating "normally" there is much opportunity for both especially India. An unsstable Pakistan is not desirable for anyone.

I don't see why this attack on Pakistan- a ntaion that sufffers daily terror attacks is not beyond the capabilities of terrorists. By all accounts these terrorists were pretty incompetant and not especially well trained or possessing any skills/tactics that other domestic terrorists haven't displayed in Pakistan in the past.


But then you clearly don't like to accept the simplest of reasoning.

The continuous indoctrination of 7th century war propaganda has infused the "we against them" mentality in Pakistan nation and whatever bad happens to "self righteous" people must be due to conspiracy of infidels and unbelievers. As a country we are turning into a state of paronia no different than what took down soviet union and is not exhibited by North Korea.

 

[Viper0011.]

It has been said time and time again the US and India want a stable and prosperous Pakistan. And this is not hot air,this is purely selfish- worrying about Pakistan is costing both nations 10s of billions of USD not to mention if Pakistan is operating "normally" there is much opportunity for both especially India. An unsstable Pakistan is not desirable for anyone.

Let me ask you a direct question. Are you saying that the Indian military (who sends weapons into Pakistan through Afghanistan, uses different fractions for terrorism acts, etc, etc), will NOT harm Pakistan's military installations when they had a chance to WITHOUT getting direct fingers pointed back to them?? If the answer is yes, please tell me which authority has told you this. Indian foreign policy document or publication number would help too.

This is yet another silliest discussion I can get into.

 

[Abingdonboy]

Let me ask you a direct question. Are you saying that the Indian military (who sends weapons into Pakistan through Afghanistan, uses different fractions for terrorism acts, etc, etc), will NOT harm Pakistan's military installations when they had a chance to WITHOUT getting direct fingers pointed back to them?? If the answer is yes, please tell me which authority has told you this. Indian foreign policy document or publication number would help too.

This is yet another silliest discussion I can get into.

In war OF COURSE India would attack Pakistan's military installations. But it is NOT involved in such attacks like MEHRAN and Minhas! Nor is India involved in backing terrorists through Afghanistan as you have stated as an established fact! To date 0 evidence has been produced over than anecdotal evidence from you jokers.

‘India wants a stable Pakistan’
India wants a stable, peaceful and progressive Pakistan: Krishna – The Express Tribune
Krishna says India wants peaceful, stable Pakistan | The News Tribe
Watch the video - Yahoo! Maktoob
India wants a stable, prosperous Pakistan: Krishna

 

[A.Rafay]

ATrollingboy has derailed and hijacked a Pakistani thread , this is not the first time he have done this , I have seen him many times, he brings India somehow in Pakistani threads and derails them!!

 

[Abingdonboy]

ATrollingboy has derailed and hijacked a Pakistani thread , this is not the first time he have done this , I have seen him many times, he brings India somehow in Pakistani threads and derails them!!

Look again through this thread- I wasn't the one who derailed this thread.

But I have said enough on this topic I feel. The CTs are your bread and butter and I do not wish to keep banging my head against a brick wall. I wanted to discuss this topic but you guys jumped on me (for whatever reason) and took the discussion places I didn't want to go. But anyways, @somebozo has said it better then I ever could and if you can't listen to me hopefully you can listen to his logic.


The problems with ignorant people is they don't like to be challenged. I thought we were hear ro have a discussion, not blindly follow what others are writing and let lies and nonsense go unchallenged,

 

[Abingdonboy]

@A.Rafay please point to exactly where I hijacked this thread and "brought India in somehow"?? Look at my first post (page 7) for some reason I was jumped on and the posts by others took the thread off topic, I was merely replying to them.

 

[A.Rafay]

I was reading about possibility of foreign powers being involved in the Saab attack and you commented that foreign power was India !! Why only India it could be others too including Afghanistan.

 

[Abingdonboy]

I was reading about possibility of foreign powers being involved in the Saab attack and you commented that foreign power was India !! Why only India it could be others too including Afghanistan.

No I said the implication was India or the US. Would it have made you happy if I said Sweden? I am only applying basic logic, it was clear who was being accused even if it was not explicitly said.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

I think we need to end this speculative thread , Saab Awacs are flying and on duty case closed nothing was mentioned in news

As for funding for Terrorism

CIA , USA embassy

Step one Agents come into Pakistan with fake names and ID
They land as ambassadors , bring in cargo containers in C130 planes some has weapons and money
The money is transported to US embassy
The Agents then , get in touch with other rouge agents who come into Pakistan thru normal civilian channels , they transport the cash to these agent

The secondary agents then , start a process to identify Anti Pakistan elements , mostly in Terrorist infested zones close to Afghanistan , and return for Anti Aircraft guns and heavy weapons they form an alliance.

They also hire mercenary assassins , who are willing to do killings and bombings in return for
favors for their "cause" US Embassy representative (agent) agrees that US supports their cause
They provide them necessary cash and weapons and intelligence on sensitive things

example: P3C orions or other sensitive information

Cetrain elements are supported by agents and these terrorist are forwarded huge amount of moeny , CIA has the capabilities to infiltrate banks and to make the transactions appear legal
which is why such huge sum deposits take place.

While its hard for normal Pakistani to open bank account with 10,000 rupees , the Terrorist are able to open accounts with over 1 crore rupees

US EMBASSY = cause of Terror network in Pakistan

US embassy agents then go forward and build networks with news-reporters and anchors who in turn , try to pressure existing governments with their policies , the Agents also spread false information as to who is bombing in Pakistan , every thing good or bad is labelled on a fictional character "TTP Taliban" a rouge entity with no leader , some how develops form thin air

Coincidentally the formation of TTP Taliban is directly related to the increase of US visa issuance to US Embassy workers

The Agents also scan Pakistani nuclear zones, and try to figure out possible scenarios and the data is updated into US intelligence

Meanwhile they are also busy to keep Pakistani Military occupied inside Pakistan with constant bombings and other inventive ideas , in order to ensure that Pakistan does not think about invading Afghanistan in order to punish the Terrorist floating in and out freely

There is no such thing as TTP , what we have is US embassy and the Agents , moving black money and illegal weapons into Pakistan and intelligence from US Embassy is how the Terrorist are able to pull off daring missions into deep military areas

 

[Jango]

Picture is from Cent4, on page 6

This folks, isn't even a hangar, this is a shed!!!

There go the claims of RPG piercing the hangar door and going inside, there isn't a hangar door in the first place!!!

This is really poor. This shed can be clearly seen on GE.

This is just easy meat for the militants, especially considering how near it is to the perimeter wall.

And now we all have visual proof that three ERIEYE's could be accommodated in the same tin shed. Some people doubted this before.

And @Cent4; , is this your own picture or you copied it from somewhere else?

 

[Safriz]

I think we need to end this speculative thread , Saab Awacs are flying and on duty case closed nothing was mentioned in news

mentioned in which news?

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

The picture above is proof that this thread was pure speculation the SAAB are sleeping happilly where they should be

 

[Jango]

The picture above is proof that this thread was pure speculation the SAAB are sleeping happilly where they should be

You have any proof that this picture was after the attack?

And also, this pic shows 3 planes.

 

[Viper0011.]

In war OF COURSE India would attack Pakistan's military installations. But it is NOT involved in such attacks like MEHRAN and Minhas! Nor is India involved in backing terrorists through Afghanistan as you have stated as an established fact! To date 0 evidence has been produced over than anecdotal evidence from you jokers.

‘India wants a stable Pakistan’
India wants a stable, peaceful and progressive Pakistan: Krishna – The Express Tribune
Krishna says India wants peaceful, stable Pakistan | The News Tribe
Watch the video - Yahoo! Maktoob
India wants a stable, prosperous Pakistan: Krishna

Are you really this naive or are you playing dumb (second is more probable). I can share similar links with you where the Pakistanis are also saying that they just want to be friends with India and nothing ever crossed the line of control into Kashmir.
I can also share similar links with you where Afghani president 'KarWai' (meaning 'efficiency' ), says he wants the Pakistani brothers to be involved. The next day, the whiskey goes out of his system and he says, all WOT needs to be fought on Pakistani surface. Then the next day, under Hashish, he says I welcome India, the very next day ovecoming his hangover, his statement is, Pakistan is our brethren and we share the same roots. We can never involve India into Afghanistan in a larger capacity or to aggravate Pakistan. The POINT is, these statements are statements. His army still hates the Pakistanis and fires on Pakistani soil all the times.
Similarly, WHY on the planet would India become SUCH a nice guy and not take the shot at destroying expensive high value property that's a set back for the enemy. Pakistan, the US, China, Iran, Russia.....ANYONE would take that shot. So wake up to the reality. It's day time in your part of the world. Go get some sun. It helps to remove brain fog at times.

 

[Viper0011.]

WOW - this is how PAF keeps it most important assets in an airbase? You spend a billion dollar to get them. Spend a couple of millions to build WALLS around them or proper hangers with thick iron walls. Even concrete walls would provide protection. This is INSANE, never seen anything like this. Crazy stuff. These planes can be attacked and damaged with stones. Let alone RPG fire!!!