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The African Mongoloid Race - San/Khoisan People

A long, long, long time ago, everyone was from Africa. Once, we were Homo erectuses, then we evolved into Homo heidelbergensis, & then we evolved into Homo sapiens. That's a simplified evolutionary story of humans. Then Homo sapiens evolved into many different races and sub-races due to the people being spread across different environments and developing various cultures.

Today, we have blacks (black Africans, black Australian natives, & native blacks in Southeast Asian islands), Middle Easterners (Arabs, Semites, Iraqis, Persians, Syrians, etc), Europeans (Greeks, Spaniards, Germans, Swedes, etc), South Asians (Pakistanis, Indians, Bangladeshis, etc), East Asians (Chinese, Mongolian, Korean, Japanese, etc), Southeast Asians (Vietnamese, Philippines, Indonesians, Pacific Islanders, etc), and Native Americans (North American natives, Central American natives, & South American natives).

It's a good thing Eurasians evolved light skin, straight hair, better facial and body proportions, and higher intelligence. Otherwise, we would not be communicating with each other on the Internet about cool military technology and plans.

If Eurasians did not evolve into existence, then we would be too busy hunting and gathering due to crude agriculture, being ignorant of modern languages (a complete communication system for reading, writing, & speaking), dying of simple infections, struggling to understand math and science, running around semi-naked, and displaying backward fashion values like the relatively primitive blacks in Africa, black natives in Australia, and black natives in Southeast Asian islands like Papua New Guinea.

Your understanding of Human genetics is outdated. Australian natives and 'Black' South east asians (LOL) are closely related to East Eurasian populations than to Africans. In fact, an Nigerian is closer to an Native American on Fst distance table than to an Micronesian native who happens to have dark pigmentation like most SS. Africans. This is because modern Europeans/Middle-Easterners, East Asians and Amerindian only split away from Africans (not all africans) around 60-45,000 years ago, while the split between Australian/Pacific islanders is between 120-90,000 years ago. And there has been constant gene flow between OOA and African populations in the past 25,000 years. East Africans migrated to middle-east and europe and spread the E1b1b1b and T1 haplogroup genes to West Eurasian populations while West Eurasian migrated to Africa, spreading R1b in N. central African populations and J1 and j2 genes in East Africa and N.Africa. Some theorist say that the sharp features of modern Europeans (and M. Easterners) is the result of admixture between 'Basal' Eurasian (originated in the Red Sea, in modern Eritrea) and the ancestor of Middle Eastern farmers who migrated to Europe to mix with the native WHG (West Eurasian hunter gather) population who possessed more robust and round in facial symmetry than modern europeans. Real Europeans probably looked more Cro-Magnon (Robust) or khanty.

Modern East Asians are not some pure 'Mongoloid' population as one may think. Australiods lived in much of modern China and were the first Homo Sapiens in East Eurasia (Homo Erectus were first 'hominids' in Asia). They mixed heavly with those Australoids, esp in Japan and SEA Asia. It is often though that Japanese or N.Chinese were the pure 'Asians' while the SE. Asian combodian and Thais were more ad-mixed, but genetic again showed this to be false as Japanese are by far the most ad-mixed and Australoid Asians by far. The ancestors of Modern Asians only recently spit from Europeans and other west Eurasian population in central asia (35,000 years ago) and looked Middle Eastern/Ameridian untill the last 11,000, where they lost body hair, looked more Neotonized and have eye folds smaller than most human populations (like the San). This is in response to the changing dry environment of Western China during the last stages of the Ice age, just like how the Khoi-San looked Neotonized in response to the change in the environment in S.Africa (became Drier). So any linking between the looks of Asians and San people due to mixing is quite dumb. It is nothing more than an example of convergent evolution between two different human population. Just like how both E.Africans and N.Europeans have evolved lactose persistence genes to digest milk after the neolithic.

And if your are trying to link phenotype to civilization and then your clearly need to brush up on your knowledge of history. 'Eurasia' is random concept. Malays under the gupta empire of the Chola empire are not gonna have similar phenotypes or cultural norms as the Germanic tribes of the classical era despite both being OOA populations. The Sudan has far more written and achelogical record that is more advance than Scandinavia.
 

You are right.This documentary of Dr Spencer wells explains all of it with scientific evidences.




Finnish have some prejudice towards Mangoloid race and also has inferiority complex



Yes Sand Bushman




Right dude .:(

My state (Kerala)is very reputed for diseases like Cholestrol,high BP and other heart diseases.So much for our eating habit.
no..coconut oil does not contribute to health hazard....it is a beneficial oil...u can google it..
 
Plus the pay is very good for successfu actors in China nowadays. In the past, Chinese celebs only wanted to go to Hollywood for money and enhance their career. After the failure of Jet Li, Chow Yun Fat, playing stereotypical Asian roles, and seeing first hand the racist attitude directed to Chinese actors, it's best they stay in East Asia region making a lot of money.
Since Hollywood movies require Chinese sales to make money nowadays, in ten years, China will be the biggest market for domestic produced movies/tv series. Wait until Wande finish the biggest studio.

Jet Li and Chow Yun Fat are losing their soul, and now most Chinese dislike them.

They can stay as the white men's obedient slaves which is none of our business.
 
Your understanding of Human genetics is outdated. Australian natives and 'Black' South east asians (LOL) are closely related to East Eurasian populations than to Africans. In fact, an Nigerian is closer to an Native American on Fst distance table than to an Micronesian native who happens to have dark pigmentation like most SS. Africans. This is because modern Europeans/Middle-Easterners, East Asians and Amerindian only split away from Africans (not all africans) around 60-45,000 years ago, while the split between Australian/Pacific islanders is between 120-90,000 years ago. And there has been constant gene flow between OOA and African populations in the past 25,000 years. East Africans migrated to middle-east and europe and spread the E1b1b1b and T1 haplogroup genes to West Eurasian populations while West Eurasian migrated to Africa, spreading R1b in N. central African populations and J1 and j2 genes in East Africa and N.Africa. Some theorist say that the sharp features of modern Europeans (and M. Easterners) is the result of admixture between 'Basal' Eurasian (originated in the Red Sea, in modern Eritrea) and the ancestor of Middle Eastern farmers who migrated to Europe to mix with the native WHG (West Eurasian hunter gather) population who possessed more robust and round in facial symmetry than modern europeans. Real Europeans probably looked more Cro-Magnon (Robust) or khanty.

Modern East Asians are not some pure 'Mongoloid' population as one may think. Australiods lived in much of modern China and were the first Homo Sapiens in East Eurasia (Homo Erectus were first 'hominids' in Asia). They mixed heavly with those Australoids, esp in Japan and SEA Asia. It is often though that Japanese or N.Chinese were the pure 'Asians' while the SE. Asian combodian and Thais were more ad-mixed, but genetic again showed this to be false as Japanese are by far the most ad-mixed and Australoid Asians by far. The ancestors of Modern Asians only recently spit from Europeans and other west Eurasian population in central asia (35,000 years ago) and looked Middle Eastern/Ameridian untill the last 11,000, where they lost body hair, looked more Neotonized and have eye folds smaller than most human populations (like the San). This is in response to the changing dry environment of Western China during the last stages of the Ice age, just like how the Khoi-San looked Neotonized in response to the change in the environment in S.Africa (became Drier). So any linking between the looks of Asians and San people due to mixing is quite dumb. It is nothing more than an example of convergent evolution between two different human population. Just like how both E.Africans and N.Europeans have evolved lactose persistence genes to digest milk after the neolithic.

And if your are trying to link phenotype to civilization and then your clearly need to brush up on your knowledge of history. 'Eurasia' is random concept. Malays under the gupta empire of the Chola empire are not gonna have similar phenotypes or cultural norms as the Germanic tribes of the classical era despite both being OOA populations. The Sudan has far more written and achelogical record that is more advance than Scandinavia.


Wow that is difficult. You are really expert.

I have few questions I have in my mind long time ago.

1. How can one define "pure race" forexample "pure Australoid". How can one be so sure that there is a race which is so "pure".

2. Distance table. How can you measure the distance. For race understanding, I guess this is the most important and the most distortable. Suppose I use Euclidean distance (or your cited Fst distance), may I found 2 siblings that has more Euclidean distance between them than someone else who is non-related?
 
This man is Ken Hirai, a popular Japanese singer and his family are from Northern Japan. Do you think he can be mistaken for South Asian? or Caucasian?

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If you ever visit Northern Japan, you will see people that do not look "typically Japanese". They can easily be mistaken for Eurasian, even Middle Eastern looking. Northern Japanese are also taller, have more hair, much more fair skinned, than Southern Japanese, who look more akin to Chinese or Koreans.

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Typical Northern Japanese Phenotype:


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Looks like east eu.
 
How a Caucasian westerner change to be an oriental?Christopher Lee tells you:
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Your understanding of Human genetics is outdated. Australian natives and 'Black' South east asians (LOL) are closely related to East Eurasian populations than to Africans. In fact, an Nigerian is closer to an Native American on Fst distance table than to an Micronesian native who happens to have dark pigmentation like most SS. Africans. This is because modern Europeans/Middle-Easterners, East Asians and Amerindian only split away from Africans (not all africans) around 60-45,000 years ago, while the split between Australian/Pacific islanders is between 120-90,000 years ago. And there has been constant gene flow between OOA and African populations in the past 25,000 years. East Africans migrated to middle-east and europe and spread the E1b1b1b and T1 haplogroup genes to West Eurasian populations while West Eurasian migrated to Africa, spreading R1b in N. central African populations and J1 and j2 genes in East Africa and N.Africa. Some theorist say that the sharp features of modern Europeans (and M. Easterners) is the result of admixture between 'Basal' Eurasian (originated in the Red Sea, in modern Eritrea) and the ancestor of Middle Eastern farmers who migrated to Europe to mix with the native WHG (West Eurasian hunter gather) population who possessed more robust and round in facial symmetry than modern europeans. Real Europeans probably looked more Cro-Magnon (Robust) or khanty.

Modern East Asians are not some pure 'Mongoloid' population as one may think. Australiods lived in much of modern China and were the first Homo Sapiens in East Eurasia (Homo Erectus were first 'hominids' in Asia). They mixed heavly with those Australoids, esp in Japan and SEA Asia. It is often though that Japanese or N.Chinese were the pure 'Asians' while the SE. Asian combodian and Thais were more ad-mixed, but genetic again showed this to be false as Japanese are by far the most ad-mixed and Australoid Asians by far. The ancestors of Modern Asians only recently spit from Europeans and other west Eurasian population in central asia (35,000 years ago) and looked Middle Eastern/Ameridian untill the last 11,000, where they lost body hair, looked more Neotonized and have eye folds smaller than most human populations (like the San). This is in response to the changing dry environment of Western China during the last stages of the Ice age, just like how the Khoi-San looked Neotonized in response to the change in the environment in S.Africa (became Drier). So any linking between the looks of Asians and San people due to mixing is quite dumb. It is nothing more than an example of convergent evolution between two different human population. Just like how both E.Africans and N.Europeans have evolved lactose persistence genes to digest milk after the neolithic.

And if your are trying to link phenotype to civilization and then your clearly need to brush up on your knowledge of history. 'Eurasia' is random concept. Malays under the gupta empire of the Chola empire are not gonna have similar phenotypes or cultural norms as the Germanic tribes of the classical era despite both being OOA populations. The Sudan has far more written and achelogical record that is more advance than Scandinavia.

The problem with your opinion is that it's based on cherry picked studies. You could cherry pick information to incorrectly prove anything. Look at the US media. The US media constantly focuses on China's failures and constantly belittles China's successes. Thus, the US media incorrectly proves China is about to collapse any moment now or that China is a failure. In reality, China has been greatly improving.

In addition, your straw man arguments are not worth debating.

DNA is an unbelievably complex subject that scientists still struggle to understand. Look at Monsanto. It spends so much R&D on manipulating a tiny fraction of a fraction of plant DNA, but it still struggles to make a good GMO product or a GMO product that is not so controversial. Plant DNA is a lot easier to analyze than human DNA for moral and practical reasons.

Sequencing DNA is not the same thing as understanding DNA. I could copy the letters of French novels in correct sequence, copy the characters of Chinese textbooks in correct order, and so on, but that does not mean I understand the books. I could use a dictionary to understand a few words or sentences in the French novels or Chinese textbooks, but that does not mean I understand the book.

The fact of the matter is that the ancient accomplishments, medieval accomplishments, and modern accomplishments of European civilizations, Middle Eastern civilizations, South Asian civilizations, Southeast Asian civilizations, or East Asian civilizations greatly surpass that of any black community in Africa, Australia, and Southeast Asia. Even Native Americans have greater accomplishments than blacks.

Here are 3 DNA research studies showing how races and sub-races exist. Notice how these studies only used a relatively small number of genes to consistently identify races and sub-races. Thus, a lot more research is needed to fully understand human genetics and human ancestries.

(1) Re-Examining the "Out of Africa" Theory and the Origin of Europeoids (Caucasoids) in Light of DNA Genealogy

Re-Examining the "Out of Africa" Theory and the Origin of Europeoids (Caucasoids) in Light of DNA Genealogy


(2) 93 ancestrally informative markers to categorize them all

93 ancestrally informative markers to categorize them all - Gene Expression


(3) The application of molecular genetic approaches to the study of human evolution

The application of molecular genetic approaches to the study of human evolution - Nature Genetics


Humans like to incorrectly think we are not animals, but something special. The fact is that humans are very unique animals, due to our highest intelligence. Many animal species have different sub-species. Plant species have different sub-species or cultivars. Tigers are of at least one species, but different sub-species of tigers exist. The same situation exists for horses, lions, leopards, lynxes, orcas, domestic dog breeds vs wolves, domestic cats, etc. Humans are all of the same species, but humans have different sub-species, races, ethnic groups, or whatever you want to call them.

People fear acknowledging the existence of human species and sub-species, because people believe that racism will occur. Racism only exists when a person seeks or a people seek to harm different people. However, a peaceful preference or a factual concept is nothing to fear, but something to appreciate.


Something just for fun:
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Kennewick Man's DNA likely that of a Native
Kennewick Man's DNA likely that of a Native
Jan 20, 2015

Nearly two decades after the ancient skeleton called Kennewick Man was discovered on the banks of the Columbia River, the mystery of his origins appears to be nearing resolution.

Genetic analysis is still underway in Denmark, but documents obtained through the federal Freedom of Information Act say preliminary results point to a Native American heritage.

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Bothell archaeologist James Chatters, the first scientist to examine the skeleton, said the skull looked "Caucasoid," not Native American. A facial reconstruction that bore a striking resemblance to Capt. Jean-Luc Picard (actor Patrick Stewart) of the television series "Star Trek: The Next Generation," further inflamed members of local tribes, who argued that the remains were rightfully theirs under the Native American Graves Protection and Repatriation Act.

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A scientific team led by Douglas Owsley, a physical anthropologist at the Smithsonian Institution, won the right to study the skeleton, which is stored at the University of Washington's Burke Museum of Natural History and Culture.

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In an interview last week, Owsley explained that he bases that conclusion on the shape of the skull, which doesn't look anything like the skulls of modern Native Americans. Its narrow brain case and prominent forehead more closely resemble Japan's earliest inhabitants and people whose genetic roots are in Southeast Asia, not Siberia and other parts of Northeast Asia.

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Nevertheless, the majority of visitors he encounters at the museum still have the impression that Kennewick Man is Caucasian. "That initial media storm from 1996 just kind of stuck," Lape said.

Chatters, the man who kicked up that storm, changed his mind after studying the 13,000-year-old skeleton of a young girl discovered in an underwater cave in Mexico. As with Kennewick Man and other remains of the earliest prehistoric Americans, the shape of the girl's skull was unusual. But DNA analysis proved that she shared a common ancestry with modern Native Americans, originating with the people who migrated into the land mass called Beringia beginning about 15,000 years ago.

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