The African Mongoloid Race - San/Khoisan People

[Faiez]

Bruce Lee, too.

I don't like bruce lee...I'm sorry, just don't kill me...

 

[Indos]

So any clue about Caucasian African...?

Many African Muslim has sharp nose like this model, Iman, A Somalian I believe

Another Somalian girl :

Caucasian

Laura Ramsey

I met Somalian man as well before, in Indonesia, one of my client, and he has sharp and high nose as well.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Jackie Chan ? Jet Lee ?

These guys are stale.

When you can only point out these guys to represent China's celebrities, then this means you know nothing about the modern China's culture.

Seems more related to pashtun female names

Maybe it is the Turkicized factor?

 

[Faiez]

These guys are stale.

When you can only point out these guys to represent China's celebrities, then this means you know nothing about the modern China's culture.

I know nothing about modern China's culture.

 

[SrNair]

To the OP, all humans have some historical tracings to Africa. However, there is nothing similar to the East Asian Race to these African subgroups. Totally different phenotype. The East Asian Phenotype do not have kinky hair, nor do we have flat nasal bridges, rather Northeast Asians have long , prominent nasal bridges, particularly fair skin, high facial features, and in regards to the epicanthal folds --- it doesn't necessarily have to be too prominent , rather, its varied in form as seen in Northern Japanese or in some Northern Chinese.

You are right.This documentary of Dr Spencer wells explains all of it with scientific evidences.

Are the Finns the Mongolians of Europe?

Most people are surprised when they discover that until as recently as the 1960s it was widely accepted that the Finns originally came from Mongolia. But the Mongolian ‘Origins of the Finns’ is a controversial topic in Finland. The Western-looking academic elite have done all that they can to suppress it and academics that still contend that Finns have ‘Mongoloid origins’ are cast into the wilderness in a ferocious dispute.

Until very recently, Finns were encouraged to see themselves either as ‘eastern’ or at least ‘between east and west.’ It was in the 1790, when Sweden ruled Finland, that German anthropologist J. F. Blumenbach compared Finnish, Sami (the Arctic reindeer herders) and Mongolian skulls and concluded that the Finns were ‘mongoloid’ and not ‘white’ like the Swedes or Finland’s Swedish-speaking aristocracy. This was widely accepted and led to the Turanian theory – that both the Finns and Sami had originally come from the East – as well as strengthening the view, according to Finland-Swede sociologist Nina af Enehjelm, that Finns were somehow ‘other’ and even ‘inferior.’ The ‘Mongoloid look’ is widely noted in Finland today and, there has been research that has compared Finnish religion and history to that of the Greenlandic and Finnish behaviour patterns to those of the Japanese.

Finland-Swede linguist M. A. Castren added to this in 1840s when he investigated the Finnish language and tried to understand which languages were related to the seemingly isolated tongue. He found that Sami, Estonian and Hungarian were from the same family but so were a series of languages across Siberia such as Komi and Mari. And even languages like Mongolian and Greenlandic seemed to have a similar grammatical structure. This led to the ‘Migration Theory,’ arguing the Finns arrived in Europe from Mongolia around three thousand years ago and finally got to Finland 2000 years ago. The more recent discovery of genetics has added further evidence to the ‘Mongol’ claim. Geneticist Richard Kittles found in 1998 that Finns have ‘Dual Origins’ between Germanic and Mongoloid as measured by their ‘Y Chromosome Haplotype Variation.’ Other geneticists estimated that Finns have between 10 percent and a quarter mongoloid genes, more than any other European nation. Twenty-seven percent of Finns carry the eastern ‘Tat C’ marker compared to only seven percent in Norway.

And in 2003, Slovenian geneticist Andrej Marusic observed that the Finnish propensity to alcoholism could be explained by the ADH22 gene ‘which is common in Eastern peoples but almost unheard of Europe.’

There is, he argued, a ‘J Curve’ where this gene is found which parallels areas where Finnish (and related languages) are spoken. For Marusic, ‘this seems to substantiate the theory that the primary ancestors of Finno-Uralics are the Mongols. The Mongols have not traditionally consumed strong alcohol whereas Europeans have for thousands of years, developing a genetic resistance to it.’

However, since a symposium in the 1980s it has become more common – especially in Finland – to argue that Finns are completely Western, with what is called the ‘Continuity Theory.’ According to this view, Finns are ‘Proto-European’ and arrived in Finland between 6000 and 11000 years ago and they arrived from the south. The Finnish ‘mongoloid look’ is explained by Finns being genetically isolated and so retaining the adaptations to the cold of the earliest Europeans. There is even an Estonian anthropologist who argues that the Migration occurred from West to East, making the Mongolians descendants of the Finns. But this new-found ‘European-ness’ has been especially convenient for the Finnish elite.

According to Finnish anthropologist Pertti Anttonen, in his book Tradition Through Modernity, Finns are ‘insecure’ because of historical perceptions of their being ‘not European’ and so ‘inferior.’ He argues that, whatever the symposium concluded in the 1980s, until the 1990s Finland was under the influence of the Soviet Union so being a bit ‘eastern’ was useful. This was reflected in the English-language book about Finland, published every ten years or so by a Finnish publisher, called A History of Finland. From its first publication in 1963 up to 2003, Finns were described as partially ‘Eastern’ in some way. Suddenly in the 2003 addition, all discussion of the eastern origins was dropped from the book.

Anttonen also highlights the work of Finnish historian Prof. Aira Kemiläinen. Now dead, she attempted to persuade Finns that they were ‘European.’ Of the Mongol look she claimed, ‘in fact this book does not exist in Finland’ without providing any evidence for its dismissal, branded academic opponents as ‘racists’, ignored the latest genetic scholarship and, bizarrely, attempted to argue that Finns should be seen as ‘European’ because they were ‘educated.’

‘Ideas of race and civilization are linked, as the “Western Genetic Heritage” of the Finnish population is used as an argument for Finland belonging to Western Civilization,’ summarises Anttonen. He felt that the book was more nationalistic than real scholarship but inexplicably it as published by the Finnish Literature Society, the main Finnish academic publisher.

The Finnish Literature Society has long been criticised for being influenced by a Finnish nationalist agenda. Finland historian William Wilson argued in 1976 that the society was heavily influenced by extreme Finnish nationalism and that it published scholarship on the Finnish folklore epic Kalevala knowing that it reflected a nationalist agenda rather than what was justifiable. It was founded to promote Finnish literature back when Finnish was not even an official language in the, at that time, Russian Duchy and so the now government-funded publisher has always had some kind of nationalist agenda.

And the current view with the Finnish elite is that Finns are Western. As Anttonen puts it, ‘The emphasis on the Western-ness of the Finns is a recent phenomenon’ rendering Finland’s joining the European Union a ‘return to Europe.’ This leaves those who still argue that Finns are originally from Mongolia in the academic wilderness,

Prof. Kalevi Wiik cannot get his genetic work on Finnish origins published with the Finnish Literature Society despite it being published in international academic journals.

‘It would be impossible to publish with them,’ he says of the world’s dominant academic publisher on Finnish culture. ‘They don’t believe in the genetic view and they disregard the genetic facts.’

Wiik recalls how his theories have been met with ‘anger. I kept a big file on it. I was accused of producing voodoo science in one newspaper article!’ He was also accused of having ‘right-wing supporters’ by another emotional critic.

‘The Finns have around a third Germanic genes, a third Baltic genes and a third genes from the east. These are the genetic facts!’ he insists, though the idea that Finnish babies have the ‘Mongol Spot’ seems to be exaggerated. Wiik also argues that Finnish men carry Mongoloid genes to a greater extent than Finnish women and that most of Europe must have spoken a Finnish-type language around the time of the last Ice Age with Finland retaining its language due to isolation from Indo-European invaders.

But at the moment, Wiik’s views don’t seem to fit with how the Finnish academic establishment wants Finland to see itself. Kemiläinen’s book ignored his work completely and even Anttonen terms him ‘controversial.’ Finns were always told they were ‘between east and west’ but now, in the wake of the Cold War, they are being told they are ‘Western.’

For 78 year-old the ferocity of the debate of Finland’s ‘Mongol origins’ proves, whatever Finland’s origins, that Finns are very insecure about whether or not they’re really European. ‘The idea that we Finns are Mongoloid is still with us,’ he says.

Dr Edward Dutton is a British freelance journalist and academic based in Finland. He is currently finishing a book on Finnish culture called The Finnuit.

Finnish have some prejudice towards Mangoloid race and also has inferiority complex

These are the people with the 'click' language, right? Heard they're one of the oldest humans.

Yes Sand Bushman

Really? I never knew that, would it be linked to oil use in cooking? I do know that in Southern Indian cooking (such as in Tamil Nadu and Kerala) the local cuisine uses a lot of coconut oil and coconut milk , which are also very rich in cholesterol. Is coconut oil used prevalently in Central and Northern India?

Right dude .

My state (Kerala)is very reputed for diseases like Cholestrol,high BP and other heart diseases.So much for our eating habit.

 

[Jlaw]

The most attractive Chinese actresses are always staying in the Mainland China.

Most Chinese actresses simply don't wanna get recruited by Hollywood in order to get a minor supporting role or to play as the white protagonist's exotic lover.

Hollywood is made for the people of the White European descent, even the black/latino people have more place in Hollywood than the East Asians.

Those smart Chinese celebrities always choose to stay in Mainland China, which is a true platform for the Chinese talent.

Plus the pay is very good for successfu actors in China nowadays. In the past, Chinese celebs only wanted to go to Hollywood for money and enhance their career. After the failure of Jet Li, Chow Yun Fat, playing stereotypical Asian roles, and seeing first hand the racist attitude directed to Chinese actors, it's best they stay in East Asia region making a lot of money.
Since Hollywood movies require Chinese sales to make money nowadays, in ten years, China will be the biggest market for domestic produced movies/tv series. Wait until Wande finish the biggest studio.

Bruce Lee, too.

Lee's movies were good as he always fought Japanese because they are villains.

 

[Víðarr]

This man is Ken Hirai, a popular Japanese singer and his family are from Northern Japan. Do you think he can be mistaken for South Asian? or Caucasian?

If you ever visit Northern Japan, you will see people that do not look "typically Japanese". They can easily be mistaken for Eurasian, even Middle Eastern looking. Northern Japanese are also taller, have more hair, much more fair skinned, than Southern Japanese, who look more akin to Chinese or Koreans.



Typical Northern Japanese Phenotype:

Tell me oh sciency one, what lineage do you see in this, a typical Icelandic dude - in this case Darri Ingolfsson.

Hot is an acceptable answer

And for those talking about Mongoloid influence in Europe, the Finno-Ugric people would be were to look:

Khanty of Russia

More about them here Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Area Mode Of Life | English Russia

 

[Aepsilons]

Tell me oh sciency one, what lineage do you see in this, a typical Icelandic dude - in this case Darri Ingolfsson.

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Hot is an acceptable answer

And for those talking about Mongoloid influence in Europe, the Finno-Ugric people would be were to look:

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Khanty of Russia
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More about them here Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Area Mode Of Life | English Russia

Zdraste wvidya! Dobre Den!

1. The guy is handsome, lol.

2. Khanty people are still active eh? I also read that the Bulgars originally came from present day Russia and traversed all the way to present day Bulgaria .

 

[Víðarr]

Zdraste wvidya! Dobre Den!

Evening to you as well. Are you familiar with Czech by any chance? Dobre Den is goodnight in Czech.
Spokoynoy Nochi would be your Russian equivalent. If you want to be less formal, Spokoynoy - meaning "good" would suffice too. Spokushki, if you're trying to be cute or Myagkikh Podushek, meaning soft pillows.

2. Khanty people are still active eh? I also read that the Bulgars originally came from present day Russia and traversed all the way to present day Bulgaria .

Oh yes, still herding reindeer, still very much aground (about 30,000 of them according to the 2010 census).

1. The guy is handsome, lol.

Don't want to guess at his lineage? Handsome was an acceptable answer though. When asked "what do you see in him," answering "not enough" would have worked too.

 

[Sasquatch]

You guys think China should aid these people ?

@kuge @Jlaw @Yizhi @AndrewJin @ChineseTiger1986 @Raphael @Chinese-Dragon @Beast @powastick @Keel @Cnleio @Edison Chen @YoucanYouup

 

[Indos]

Mongoloid People is every where,

Native American is Mongoloid Race

Eskimo women

Megan Nicole ( look like Indonesian women)

Well, I think some Afghan Tribe still retain some Mongoloid feature.

Hazara Afghan Tribe

 

[East or West India Best]

Tell me oh sciency one, what lineage do you see in this, a typical Icelandic dude - in this case Darri Ingolfsson.

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Hot is an acceptable answer

@SvenSvensonov a fellow pdfer @ptldM3 lost his fiance in the same way. Watch out for this Darri the dajjal fella.

 

[Jlaw]

The African Origins Of ALL Asians

A BBC UK report from 1998 says:

The findings also add new weight to theories that all human life began in Africa.
Academics from the University of Texas and their colleagues in China studied 28 population groups in China and concluded that most – if not all – had their genetic origins in Africa.


They looked at pieces of DNA known as microsatellites, which are short, repeating DNA segments that yield information about genetic variation among people.
A report by Science Daily published in 2001 says:


An international study of Y chromosomal DNA shows that East Asian populations migrated out of Africa and suggests that little or no interbreeding of Homo erectus and Homo sapiens occurred after the migration.

Below are pictures of the Khoisan tribe of Southern Africa. They are who scientists revealed modern Asians (and other nationalities) originate from:

The African Origins Of ALL Asians | THE AFRO LOUNGE™

Why are you posting an article based on a 2001 study?

 

[Indos]

DNA Test reveal that Homo Sapiens is A New Species of human.

It is match with what Quran has said. Quran said indirectly, that there was another human living before God created Adam. It is clear when we read a verse in Quran telling that Angels protested God decision to make another Human since according to the Angels, previous Human was so barbaric.

Adam and Eve has no DNA link from Homo Erectus.

Quran, Al-Baqarah verse 30 :

"And [mention, O Muhammad], when your Lord said to the angels, "Indeed, I will make upon the earth a successive authority." They said, "Will You place upon it one who causes corruption therein and sheds blood, while we declare Your praise and sanctify You?" Allah said, "Indeed, I know that which you do not know."

God makes clever ones :

Verse 31

"And He taught Adam the names - all of them. Then He showed them to the angels and said, "Inform Me of the names of these, if you are truthful."

Angel realize that Adam is a different type of human

Verse 32

"They said, "Exalted are You; we have no knowledge except what You have taught us. Indeed, it is You who is the Knowing, the Wise."

 

[Meroe]

So any clue about Caucasian African...?

Many African Muslim has sharp nose like this model, Iman, A Somalian I believe

Another Somalian girl :

Caucasian

Laura Ramsey

I met Somalian man as well before, in Indonesia, one of my client, and he has sharp and high nose as well.

I am Nubian (N.Sudanese) and we have similar facial features as Somalis. NE Africans tend to have sharp features. Habasha look Semitic, Cushitics (Somalis and Afars) look pesodo N.European and Sudanese are all an bunch mixed folks

@Nihonjin1051