The Afghanistan War Is Over. We Lost.

[SHAH07]

Taliban is animal Now, you just can’t talk with animal, remember our peaceful talk with Pakistan taliban in Swat, you can’t expect good from animals. Taliban are not same as before 2001, their thinking, mentality is changed, and their hate against Pakistan in every single drop of blood, because we pushed them away in fighting against terrorism, we killed their hundreds of leaders. If taliban government comes in Afghanistan I think they will take revenge due to our role against them and on war, with help of U.S.A and exchanging intelligence with NATO forces.
It’s better to create relation with kerzai than taliban animals.

There is hell lot of difference between afghan taliban and NDS RAW agents TTP . And yes we did wrong to afghan taliban but they are sincere with their country they wont do anything against pakistan because they know that doing that would not be in their interest

 

[jamal18]

Taliban isn't going to rule Kabul or whole Afghanistan. What can be done is divide Afghanistan. Taliban then can rule eastern Afghanistan. Kabul being tajik, hazara majority will go to new country named Khorasan or what ever.

But taliban rule like in 90's? Don't see it. Said this taliban are terrorists first and far from allies. Pakistan should be prepared for fallout of US leaving again. This time with mines and fences along border.

They are the same as before. Terrorist? Yeah, if you accept the US narrative that whoever fights against them is a terrorist.

Cannot rule over all of Afghanistan? They did it before. With the Americans gone, who is going to support the Northern alliance? Those supporters failed before and they will fail again.

The establishment of the Taliban, technically, was the only conflict in which the Pakistani military acheived their aim. In plain language that is called victory. They have done it before, and they can do it again.

 

[Peaceful Civilian]

And yes we did wrong to afghan taliban but they are sincere with their country they wont do anything against pakistan because they know that doing that would not be in their interest

@jamal18
How taliban is sincere to their country? They behead their policemen, they behead people for dancing, they fight with Afghan army , they torchure them & kill them. Today’s Taliban have also support of daesh and other banned terrorist organisations.

 

[LeGenD]

Pakistan should seek answers from US.

They have the strongest army? CHECK
They have the best of weaponry? CHECK
They have expertise in COIN? CHECK
They have defeated all adversaries in the Middle East? CHECK

So what US was doing in Afghanistan all these years? Who is responsible for current situation in Afghanistan? Who was profiteering from this war?

 

[Clutch]

Loss of America in Afghanistan is loss of Pakistan, If U.S.A leaves Afghanistan, we will suffer more due to difficult 2500Km terrain mountainous area of border.
I wish U.S.A stay in Afghanistan , this is good for us, otherwise something big is coming.
These Afghanistan fighters are not easy to fight, they comes with mission attack & die even few hundreds of them can make life hell, even let suppose forget thousands of taliban for moment.

They are gurrila fighters only good on their home turf...bhit and run. They cannot hold territory or invade. As long as Pakistan fences it's border and maintains an effective surveillance system preventing large scale penetration... Pakistan would be fine.

Indian terror activities are at risk the most upon American withdrawal.

@jamal18
How taliban is sincere to their country? They behead their policemen, they behead people for dancing, they fight with Afghan army , they torchure them & kill them. Today’s Taliban have also support of daesh and other banned terrorist organisations.

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They sure are animals... Agree with you on that ....

 

[Ultima Thule]

Taliban is animal Now, you just can’t talk with animal, remember our peaceful talk with Pakistan taliban in Swat, you can’t expect good from animals. Taliban are not same as before 2001, their thinking, mentality is changed, and their hate against Pakistan in every single drop of blood, because we pushed them away in fighting against terrorism, we killed their hundreds of leaders. If taliban government comes in Afghanistan they will take revenge due to our role against them and on war, with help of U.S.A & exchanging intelligence with NATO forces to hunt them.
It’s better to create relation with kerzai than taliban animals.

USA/WEST/india is in not for good for both Pakistan and Afghanistan be the won't aloww to stabilized either Pakistan/Afghanistan,Israel/USA planted ISIS in Afghanistan to destabilized both countries and Indian RAW is also sitting in Afghanistan to destabilize Pakistan, if USA/WEST want peace in Afghanistan/Pakistan, then they leave immediately from Afghanistan, that would bring peace in the region @Peaceful Civilian

 

[jamal18]

@jamal18
How taliban is sincere to their country? They behead their policemen, they behead people for dancing, they fight with Afghan army , they torchure them & kill them. Today’s Taliban have also support of daesh and other banned terrorist organisations.

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You haven't heard what the Americans have been doing?

They are fighting the 'Afghan' army because they are the enemy; armed and funded by them. As are the police.

It is undeniably in the strategic interests of Pakistan to have a Taliban government in Kabul.

 

[Ultima Thule]

@jamal18
How taliban is sincere to their country? They behead their policemen, they behead people for dancing, they fight with Afghan army , they torchure them & kill them. Today’s Taliban have also support of daesh and other banned terrorist organisations.

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Taliban is not supporting Daesh and other banned terrorist organizations, but US/WEST armed force is supporting these terrorist organizations in Afghanistan to destabilize Pakistan, the only way to bring peace to the is to USA/NATO will leave Afghanistan ASAP or clean the all mess in Afghanistan @Peaceful Civilian

 

[Crystal-Clear]

@jamal18
How taliban is sincere to their country? They behead their policemen, they behead people for dancing, they fight with Afghan army , they torchure them & kill them. Today’s Taliban have also support of daesh and other banned terrorist organisations.

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oh and i thought you knows abit about Afghanistan or Taliban.

 

[maximuswarrior]

Doesn't look good for the US and India from any perspective you look.

 

[suresh1773]

Lol TTP is fully supported by afghan NDS , RAW and americans ..
What we need to do is make nexus with afghan taliban and kick the butt of these TTP and NDS basturds

TTP, Hizbul Mujahidden is entirely Pakistan's creation. Many of the Taliban residents are bonafide or legitimate citizens of Pakistan.

 

[Kabira]

They are the same as before. Terrorist? Yeah, if you accept the US narrative that whoever fights against them is a terrorist.

Cannot rule over all of Afghanistan? They did it before. With the Americans gone, who is going to support the Northern alliance? Those supporters failed before and they will fail again.

The establishment of the Taliban, technically, was the only conflict in which the Pakistani military acheived their aim. In plain language that is called victory. They have done it before, and they can do it again.

Yes taliban are terrorists. Afghanis are enemies taliban or not. Even taliban didn't accept international border. Afghanistan should be treated like India. Thankfully Pakistan is doing exactly that by building fences, restricting movement of people. Deporting afghanis refugees soon or using them as mean of blackmail. and so on

Afghanis hate Pakistan.

 

[maximuswarrior]

Pakistan should show everyone a big middle finger, keep fencing the border and repatriate Afghans. That is all.

We don't give a sh!t about the Afghan war. Let the US and her allies figure it out.

 

[Zhukov]

you pathetic liberal shit, USA/WEST/india is in not for good for both Pakistan and Afghanistan be the won't aloww to stabilized either Pakistan/Afghanistan,Israel/USA planted ISIS in Afghanistan to destabilized both countries and Indian RAW is also sitting in Afghanistan to destabilize Pakistan, if USA/WEST want peace in Afghanistan/Pakistan, then they leave immediately from Afghanistan, that would bring peace in the region you pathetic liberal shit @Peaceful Civilian

Loose tempered Abusing leaves you nowhere. Things are not as black and white as you my friend believe. That their are two sides in Afghanistan, one is US India West and Afghan National army plus Kabul Regime and the other is Taliban who are holy angels fighting for the independence of their country and friendly to Pakistan. Neither will labeling some one help.
Afghanistan is a very complicated case. Taliban doctrine is the worse sort of people mind you, they dont fight for Afghanistan they fight for the same cause as you own TTP and all other jammats like Ansar ul ahrar and Lashkar e Jhangvi. ANd they use the same methods against their adversaries ANA like TTP used against our force i.e beheading, Mutilating Corpses, Abducting Children etc.
ANA is a paid force their to protect the US interests in the region nothing more nothing less.
India is a regional power with all its resources and financial might it is their to expand.

Can you choose between Indian Army and Lashkar e Jhangvi? I dont think you will. Both are our enemies and we need to protect us from both. But Indian Army is external threat and Lashkar e Jhangvi is an imminent Threat.

similarly in Afghanistan, We need to protect our Interests. India is an Enemy of Pakistan we have to counter them but Taliban and Religious Extremists are also our enemy they are our internal enemy as they can culturally effect our youth and infiltrate our borders, Infiltrate our religious bodies and destabilize our country like they have been doing for 2 decades, But For USA we have to engage them, take them into confidence or totally disengage from them and become impartial. their have to be a mechanisms, no country starts an all out cold war against USA not even Russia.
Long story short, we should work toward a third solution, Neither Taliban nor Pro-India Afghanistan. We should then take USA eye to eye that what have you done with Afghanistan all these years despite having the best of equipment and Army and how ill you ensure our interests if we help you. Simple bargain that all countries do.
I suggest we go for a division of Afghanistan Plan, And Put some sense into Taliban if they listen to us at all to work toward a solution.
Its not a Liberal conservative war. Its about our National Interest and how to protect out Pakistan. Not every war can be won by Swords, some need Papers as well

 

[Areesh]

TTP, Hizbul Mujahidden is entirely Pakistan's creation. Many of the Taliban residents are bonafide or legitimate citizens of Pakistan.

Don't share your flawed and foolish history with us

Go teach it in RSS shakha