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The 5 Most Deadly Navies in Asia

Discounting the USN, which is the best in any part of the world, my top 5 are:

JMSDF - these guys have professionalism, size, skill, and don't neglect any aspects of their forces. They have strong anti-air, AWS, electronic-warfare and inter-operational capabilities. Training with and being backed-up by the USN doesn't hurt either.

PLAN - making good progress, but still lacking sorely in ASW warfare and experience. Their sub force is modernizing quickly and they are making good, but not great progress on the naval aviation from. Their destroyer force is a match for any other. Still, their size can overwhelm a technologically and tactically superior navy with shear numbers.

Военно-морской Флот Российской Федерации - The Russian Navy is still a forced to be reasoned with, even if their strength isn't what it used to be they are making a lot of progress in returning to their Cold War days. Their surface fleet may be a bit limited in power-projection, but their naval aviation arm and submarine fleet are second only to the USN. Don't discount the Russian Navy

Even if limited in size, the Russian Navy Pacific Fleet is still very strong:

The Pacific Fleet, established on 10 May 1731 and is headquartered in Vladivostok and based around Vladivostok and Petropavlovsk-Kamchatskiy. The Fleet consists of;

That's a pain in the butt for anyone.

Indian Navy - They rank lower as they are still in the process of modernizing and figuring out their overall strategy. A series of naval accidents and a limited sub-surface fleet doesn't help them either. India, like China is still learning the naval aviation game and in terms of both quality and quantity it is lagging behind the other contenders. The IN doesn't have the power-projection capability of the other nations listed and its amphibious assault capabilities are really, really limited in scope.

They're making progress, each of the listed nations is, but I would like to see more effort put into the submarine fleet.

ROKN - The ROKN is a more limited JMSDF. Strong, but not up to the technological or tactical strength of the JMSDF. Their submarines are more limited. Their naval aviation less experienced, their amphibious landing capabilities very weak. Their destroyer force is small, but growing in size. Their most plentiful naval vessel is the Pohang-class corvette. This isn't a navy with can project-power, I'm unsure it can even successfully defend the ROK from a nation like Japan.

These are my top 5, but the undisputed king in Asia is still the US 7th Fleet!

United States Seventh Fleet - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

We are one of the oldest players in Naval aviation sir & have conducted successful operations against Pakistan using our naval aviation capability & what amphibian capability do the Koreans & Japanese have that we don't have
 
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Singapore and South Korea? really? even the Bangladeshi gunboats can sink them all


what power projection and naval aviation game South Korea and Singapore have that India doesn't?
I find this listing very flattering for the countries listed except of course US, Japan and maybe China.

Perhaps you should read about both of them on the first page.
 
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Discounting the USN, which is the best in any part of the world, my top 5 are:

JMSDF - these guys have professionalism, size, skill, and don't neglect any aspects of their forces. They have strong anti-air, AWS, electronic-warfare and inter-operational capabilities. Training with and being backed-up by the USN doesn't hurt either.

PLAN - making good progress, but still lacking sorely in ASW warfare and experience. Their sub force is modernizing quickly and they are making good, but not great progress on the naval aviation from. Their destroyer force is a match for any other. Still, their size can overwhelm a technologically and tactically superior navy with shear numbers.

Военно-морской Флот Российской Федерации - The Russian Navy is still a forced to be reasoned with, even if their strength isn't what it used to be they are making a lot of progress in returning to their Cold War days. Their surface fleet may be a bit limited in power-projection, but their naval aviation arm and submarine fleet are second only to the USN. Don't discount the Russian Navy

Even if limited in size, the Russian Navy Pacific Fleet is still very strong:

The Pacific Fleet, established on 10 May 1731 and is headquartered in Vladivostok and based around Vladivostok and Petropavlovsk-Kamchatskiy. The Fleet consists of;

That's a pain in the butt for anyone.

Indian Navy - They rank lower as they are still in the process of modernizing and figuring out their overall strategy. A series of naval accidents and a limited sub-surface fleet doesn't help them either. India, like China is still learning the naval aviation game and in terms of both quality and quantity it is lagging behind the other contenders. The IN doesn't have the power-projection capability of the other nations listed and its amphibious assault capabilities are really, really limited in scope.

They're making progress, each of the listed nations is, but I would like to see more effort put into the submarine fleet.

ROKN - The ROKN is a more limited JMSDF. Strong, but not up to the technological or tactical strength of the JMSDF. Their submarines are more limited. Their naval aviation less experienced, their amphibious landing capabilities very weak. Their destroyer force is small, but growing in size. Their most plentiful naval vessel is the Pohang-class corvette. This isn't a navy with can project-power, I'm unsure it can even successfully defend the ROK from a nation like Japan.

These are my top 5, but the undisputed king in Asia is still the US 7th Fleet!

United States Seventh Fleet - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

We are one of the oldest players in Naval aviation sir & have conducted successful operations against Pakistan using our naval aviation capability & what amphibian capability do the Koreans & Japanese have that we don't have
 
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We are one of the oldest players in Naval aviation sir & have conducted successful operations against Pakistan using our naval aviation capability & what amphibian capability do the Koreans & Japanese have that we don't have


We are the oldest and first sub operators with the first kill in the region but as lazy as the Mughals (they didn't give a shit about their navy either).
 
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I note size in the analysis of the PLAN, but for the other four, their size is limited. If we really want to get into the size game I wouldn't suggest the 7th fleet is the strongest in Asia. Rather I would put the whole USN in that metric. I do take into account the size, hence why South Korea remains low while China and Japan are high on my list. However, size only goes so far and between the huge PLAN and the large JMSDF, I chose the latter as it is a more established navy (training, tech, etc.) while the PLAN is in the process of modernizing.

Size doesn't matter to me too much. Once Iraq had a massive military... it took us a few weeks to destroy it with superior tactics and technology. Similarly, the DPRK relies on this strategy to combat a more technologically, but smaller South. Even during the Cold War the Russians relied on size to combat our technological superiority, but they never truly achieved the parity they wanted. Size doesn't make too much of a difference against a well trained, technologically capable and motivated military (forget winning with conscripts).

In a few years time the IN and PLAN will rank higher, but right now the JMSDF combines all the metrics I value in a military... though I suppose this is a difference in culture too seeing as how the US military has always prided itself on tech and not size to remain competitive and ahead of our rivals.

And that's my assumption in your analysis, that you have taken size/scale into account. If purely a qualitative analysis, my list will be 1 USN 2 JMSDF 3 ROKN. RSN arguably can come close to 4 but the rest are not easy to compare.
 
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How can someone write Singapore which is listed above ROKN. And where is one of the most powerful navies of South Asia if not the best?? Indian Navy?

Top 5 in alphabetical order since it is not easy as it seems when ranking a Navy:

IN, JMSDF, PLAN, ROKN, USN 7th Fleet.
 
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We are one of the oldest players in Naval aviation sir & have conducted successful operations against Pakistan using our naval aviation capability & what amphibian capability do the Koreans & Japanese have that we don't have

Korean have marines forces sir, and their amphibious landing forces is not in small number either. About JMSDF, they have at least four Helicopter Destroyer to support their amphibious landing forces and not to mention their capability to do joint operation with her Allies.
 
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Yup these Russian subs do rock big time, real horrifying babies no doubt. But what this fellow is examining is as he said "In qualitative, operational and policy-making terms. .." i.e. not hardware. Moreover, he clearly used the example of India vs Singapore to show that size and scale is out of his equation.

So now you are talking about the quality of the Russian subs? :lol:.
Submarines are the real powerful arm.A good stealthy SSK and SSBN would be enough for the mightiest Navies in the world.We got that hard reality.When they send Pacific fleet for our help in 1971 .
 
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Korean have marines forces sir, and their amphibious landing forces is not in small number either. About JMSDF, they have at least four Helicopter Destroyer to support their amphibious landing forces and not to mention their capability to do joint operation with her Allies.

We have Marine Forces too & we have conducted many successful naval operations too
& a little example of our Naval Capability
1988 Maldives coup d'état - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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We are one of the oldest players in Naval aviation sir & have conducted successful operations against Pakistan using our naval aviation capability & what amphibian capability do the Koreans & Japanese have that we don't have

Three words: Imperial Japanese Navy.
 
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So now you are talking about the quality of the Russian subs? :lol:.
Submarines are the real powerful arm.A good stealthy SSK and SSBN would be enough for the mightiest Navies in the world.We got that hard reality.When they send Pacific fleet for our help in 1971 .

And the Russians sent theirs?
 
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Even before there was an Indian Navy, or Korean Navy, Japan had already defeated China in the Sino Japanese War, and the Russians in the Russo Japanese War.

Japan pioneered carrier based airwarfare through our Kido Butai. Don't let our relative silence evade our naval prowess in history and how that legacy still is alive in the JMSDF .
 
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Even before there was an Indian Navy, or Korean Navy, Japan had already defeated China in the Sino Japanese War, and the Russians in the Russo Japanese War.

Japan pioneered carrier based airwarfare through our Kido Butai. Don't let our relative silence evade our naval prowess in history and how that legacy still is alive in the JMSDF .

True on the first part, but on the second eh.... Its more like given.
 
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