''Thar coal will be used for power generation'' PM

[AsifIjaz]

Engro 1 will be online in 2017 followed by engro 2 in max 15 - 16 months.. these figures are based upon the fact that industrial scale work is started within the 3rd quarter of this year. Regarding future expansion engro has stated that if everything goes by plan then they can install more plants of similar capacity.
Regarding cheap gas.. well it is more to do with Government not living upto its commitment on Enven project. Engro invested huge money on the words biggest single terain urea plant on the promise of uninterupted gas supply for 10 months of the year. the plant but remained 70% shut for initial 3 years. two possible routes were available 1) file a case 2) get the sufferer's image and use it somewhere else.

 

[ziaulislam]

Power generation using coal is not eco friendly. Pakistan should better find some other source of energy fast.

there are no better solutions..

Its because they expect you to have eyes wide open which can see, and them open eyes, can see what they've done.....motor ways, new dams, metro transit systems, expansion of hydro power, nuke, solar and other electric production, new motorways, airports and expansion, focus on education, investments from China, should I continue? This might be a long post if I listed everything they've done. You should at the least be appreciative of the work that someone does for their country, and it helps average, poor Pakistanis.



Coal is readily available and can quickly be used in replacing power generators current using expensive furnace oil. Hydro footprint is also growing rapidly but these are two entirely separate issues. Many of our US based companies like GE, Schlumberger and many from Europe are super interested in getting a piece of the big energy pie in Pakistan. I won't be surprised if GE wins the power plant conversion work, worth a few billion easily with expansion phases.

i agree to most part of your post except when it comes to hydro projects.
govt is facilitating private investment but not doing anything else....the result is not so much different from PPPP era
the very reason that no significant new hydro project started the tarbela expansion is project whose 100% funding was acquired by PPPP
in fact the only other project NJ is facing problems and govt plans to privatize it to complete its building
four of other hydro projects under PPIB were long planned and some had already even had funding that were retrospectively added into so called corridor project.

the two real projects dasu is halted despite full funding from WB and bhasha is still on paper

govt however, has done well in arena of imported coal and nuclear projects

 

[Arsalan]

Hydroelectricity and Hydel storage projects,,,, PLEASE!!! Please before we start dying of water shortage and before water shortage becomes even a bigger problem then current electricity crisis.

Coal power projects are great, specially when we will be using our own Thar coal, more jobs, improvement of infrastructure in that poor God forsaken part of our country and will help in providing basic life necessities like clean water health and education to people living in that forgotten part of Pakistan. So in no way it can or should be criticized, this is a very welcoming step and will be great for the country WHEN it happens.

However, All this said, IT IS NOT A REPLACEMENT OF HYDEL POWER, Specially Water storage dams. Bookmark this post, if we do not start working on these projects TODAY, we will be facing a water crisis that will make this current electricity crisis like a joke in next 12 to 15 years. Remember, any decent hydel project will need 7 to 8 years so these must have been started YESTERDAY!!

 

[faisal6309]

Nuclear energy is dangerous. Remember the Fukushima disaster?

But not dangerous enough for Europe??
Pakistan did best to re-evaluate design of its own nuclear power complexes. I heard that Pakistan even helped Japan with its problem. If it is dangerous than almost everything we use in our daily life is dangerous too.

 

[niaz]

But not dangerous enough for Europe??
Pakistan did best to re-evaluate design of its own nuclear power complexes. I heard that Pakistan even helped Japan with its problem. If it is dangerous than almost everything we use in our daily life is dangerous too.

I am all for nuclear energy, in my opinion it is 'green'. Nevertheless your comment about Europe ignores the fact that Germany has decide to shut down all of her nuclear power plants. The capacity is being replaced by power plants based on local lignite coal.

 

[RoadRunner401]

Germany’s impressive streak of renewable energy milestones continued, with renewable energy generation surging to a record portion — nearly 75 percent — of the country’s overall electricity demand by midday. With wind and solar in particular filling such a huge portion of the country’s power demand, electricity prices actually dipped into the negative for much of the afternoon, according to Renewable international.
In the first quarter of 2014, renewable energy sources met a record 27 percent of the country’s electricity demand, thanks to additional installations and favorable weather. “Renewable generators produced 40.2 billion kilowatt-hours of electricity, up from 35.7 billion kilowatt-hours in the same period last year,” Bloomberg reported. Much of the country’s renewable energy growth has occurred in the past decade and, as a point of comparison, Germany’s 27 percent is double the approximately 13 percent of U.S. electricity supply powered by renewables as of November 2013.

Observers say the records will keep coming as Germany continues its Energiewende, or energy transformation, which aims to power the country almost entirely on renewable sources by 2050.

Pakistani politrictions can't see past day after, and you guys expect these people to invest in renewable energy or clean energy, its going to be a big surprise, if any of these projects make it past inauguration stones.