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Thar desert have lignite deposits not coal. These lignite fields are also present in western rajasthan and northern gujarat with similar quantity of reserves as of Pakistan. The problem is with depth, lignite fields are cost efficient only when they are mined in open pit way as they have very less carbon and have lots of moisture. Lignite reserves in thar desert are not suitable for open pit extraction and thus the problem, in india ONGC is experimenting on coal gasification on these fields but till now there is no breakthrough.

Thar coal reserve are greatest in the world , it is true that transportation of Lignite coal reserves is not feasible because 50% of moisture content .But still it is cheaper source of power generation then oil .

Top ten countries Lignite Coal Reserves
(Million tons)
01. Australia 37.30
02. USA 30.24
03. China 18.60
04. Serbia (Kosovo) 13.50
05. Russian Federation 10.45
06. Germany 6.56
07. India 4.60
08. Greece 3.90
09. Kazakhstan 3.13
10. Hungry 2.93
Total proved Recoverable
Lignite Coal reserves
in all the countries of the
world combined 149.86
Source:World
 
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Its not just moisture but there are many factors that decides mining feasibility, some of them are quality of coal, depth of the reserves, seam width, soil type, moisture in the soil etc.

Even there are deposits of 175 billion tonnes of lignite all that matters is how much of it can be extracted without losing money.

Thar coal reserve are greatest in the world , it is true that transportation of Lignite coal reserves is not feasible because 50% of moisture content .But still it is cheaper source of power generation then oil .

Top ten countries Lignite Coal Reserves
(Million tons)
01. Australia 37.30
02. USA 30.24
03. China 18.60
04. Serbia (Kosovo) 13.50
05. Russian Federation 10.45
06. Germany 6.56
07. India 4.60
08. Greece 3.90
09. Kazakhstan 3.13
10. Hungry 2.93
Total proved Recoverable
Lignite Coal reserves
in all the countries of the
world combined 149.86
Source:World
 
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Sindh seeks early approval from WB
By: Ramzan Chandio | Published: December 09, 2009


KARACHI - The Sindh government has asked the Federal government to approach the World Bank for early approval of Thar Coal and Power Technical Assistance Project (TACP-TAP), sources told The Nation on Tuesday.
Sources in Federal government confirmed that the Additional Chief Secretary of Planning and Development Department of Sindh Government, in its letter to Federal Finance Minister Shaukat Tarin, urged him to take up the matter with the President of the World Bank to emphasize upon him the importance of TACP-TAP and need of its early approval by the World Bank Board.
Sources in Federal government, quoting the letter of the Sindh government, said the Thar Coal and Power Technical Assistance Project is a World Bank assisted project being implemented as a partnership between the Province of Sindh (Coal Mining Department), and Government of Pakistan (Coal Fired Power Development). The Provincial component of the IDA financed part of the project is estimated at $25.8 million dollars and the federal component at $4.2 million dollars, however the IDA Credit will finance 100 per cent of identified project costs at $30 million dollars, sources said.
Referring the current energy scenario of the country, the Sindh government said that this project is of the paramount importance as its success is likely to open the doors for large-scale international investment in coal to power sector in Pakistan and result in exploiting a cheaper and indigenous source of energy for power generation.
The Sindh government in its letter to the Federal Finance Minister also discussed the delay in implementation of project, saying that all previous attempts at bringing international investment in exploiting Thar Coal reserves did not materialize due to policy and regulatory ambiguities, lack of enough technical data such as on-surface and sub-surface water resources in Thar, an absence of a build-out plan for Thar coal blocks and the need for clear definition for roles and responsibilities with regard to Thar and power development.


Sources in Federal government sources, quoting the letter of the Sindh government, said this project will help the governments of Sindh and Pakistan in strengthening the enabling policy, legal and regulatory framework and governing institutions for coal-to-power sector, and will assist in attracting qualified private investors who would develop Thar Block one.
Meanwhile, the investment in block one coal mine and associated power plants would come from the private sector.
The ECNEC at the federal level has already approved the Thar Coal and Power Technical Assistance Project (TACP-TAP), while the government of Sindh has earmarked Rs336 million for the four-year life of the project, of which Rs110 million are part of the ADP for current financial year 2009-10.
On the World Bank’s side, a Project Preparatory Facility (PFF) of $2m has already been approved for this project and preparatory work has already begun, sources in federal government quoted the letter of Sindh, adding that foreign and local consultants have engaged and the work is progressing.
However, negotiation for the main project were completed and signed by Economic Affairs Division of Federal Govt, Sindh Govt and WB in May 2009, but the project is yet to be placed before the WB Board for approval, sources said.


Sindh seeks early approval from WB | Pakistan | News | Newspaper | Daily | English | Online


And there is pdf available about the proposed project, cost estimation, feasibilty and targets, etc. as the following links.

Technical Assistance


Fighter
 
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Pakistan Can Use Coal as Gas Substitute

Monday, 08/10/2009

Pakistan can use coal as substitute for gas: expert

Some excerpts, with a somewhat revelatory comment following:

"Coal gasification and coal-to-liquid are some proven technologies available which can be successfully employed in Pakistan to reduce dependence on imported oil and natural gas.

In addition to coal, there are many waste materials like cow dung, municipal solid waste, industrial waste, rice husk, wheat and rice straw and other composite materials which can be used to produce bio gas, which can be used a substitute of natural gas for winter heating and CNG filling stations for vehicle fuels. If this waste-to-energy technology is adopted in Pakistan on a fast track basis, then the problem of gas shortage can be overcome within a few years.

Coal gasification offers one of the most versatile and cleanest ways to convert the energy content of coal into electricity, hydrogen, and other energy forms."

As you will see, this article was based on an interview with an oil industry expert who works for a Houston, Texas, company. A little digging reveals that company is owned by a much larger conglomerate - a Saudi Arabian conglomerate. You can do that little bit of mining on your own. You'll find it.


West Virginia Coal Association - Pakistan Can Use Coal as Gas Substitute
 
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Thar desert have lignite deposits not coal. These lignite fields are also present in western rajasthan and northern gujarat with similar quantity of reserves as of Pakistan. The problem is with depth, lignite fields are cost efficient only when they are mined in open pit way as they have very less carbon and have lots of moisture. Lignite reserves in thar desert are not suitable for open pit extraction and thus the problem, in india ONGC is experimenting on coal gasification on these fields but till now there is no breakthrough.

such plants are in russia and northern china. pakistan is looking fwd to doin the same (probably with the help of china)
 
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thar coal reserves...we are so proud! we don't even have a proper basic infrastructure and facilities...look at China/Australia/us...we're nothing its too late for Pakistan only a miracle govt can truly invest and see the importance..

have you seen the workers in Pakistan with no protection working in mines this is Pakistan no where would u see that we've to invest billions of dollars to restarts thar coal project on international level...God knows we've proven oil reserves but we're not touching perhaps a week from Judgment day we'll start digging them.. PPP, nawaz, ppp, nawaz, musharraf, ppp and all have done little but put Pakistan in debt...1970-2009 Pakistan has written off Internal debt 460 Billion rupees on record imagine the off record debt written off is between 500-530 Billion rupees = 6 Billion dollars which still is I think little and don't forget the external debt of 50+ billion dollars, currently our govt has nothing in their pockets to start massive projects corruption at its best perhaps If a sensible govt after the next election declares she can't pay external debts for the next 5-7 Years and route that money towards such projects other than that be assured non of these parties ppp/nawaz/mqm/anp wants Pakistan developed nation..i am wondering how our people of Pakistan give votes to these parties who puts Pakistan in huge debt than comes back with hilarious stupid speeches that we'll do this and that for Pakistan there is terribly something wrong with our people's psyche and brains a sane person won't deal with another person if he has robbed him previously here in Pakistan we continue to support thieves "It only happens in Pakistan"!.
 
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here is the link of GSP(geological survey of Pakistan) explaining resources of thar coal.....any one intrested can read it...

Geological Survey of Pakistan


and here is one thesis probably PHD on HEC website emphasising on geochemistry of thar....

COAL FACIES, DEPOSITIONAL ENVIRONMENTS AND BASIN BASIN MODELING OF THAR COAL FIELD........


really help ful and worth reading...

remember
resources= exploration estimation (can be more or less)

reserves= development estimation (probably after aprasing the field/location)
 
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Thar Coal reserves, enough for 200 years and can produce 100,000 MegaWatts of electricity, Pakistan's need is only 16000 MegaWatts...

29 Gas fields were identified in Shaukat Aziz'z Era, but he stopped any further development
 
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HYDERABAD: Prominent scientist Dr Samar Mubarakmand, who is a member of Planning Commission, has said that Pakistan has world’s second largest coal deposits, which will take three to four years to be put to use.

He was speaking at a seminar on “Coal bed methane (CBM) prospects of Sindh, a venture of opportunities for growth” organised by the Centre for Pure and Applied Geology of the University of Sindh.

He said that although he was not an expert on coal but being a member of the Planning Commission whose responsibilities included developing the resources and preparing roadmap for national development he had studied Thar coal and visited Tharparkar several times.

He said that every Pakistani wished to put Thar coal into use for producing energy and work had started on eight blocks.

He said the world faced the spectre of fast depletion of energy resources. There were 45 locations in the world of natural gas which could be converted into diesel and electricity and help contain pollution, he said.

Robert H. Gales, vice-president of Geoscience, Weatherford, USA, said in his keynote presentation that Pakistan was among 10 countries with large deposits of natural resources including coal.

He said that the fossil fuel would be main energy producer in foreseeable future and coal would remain a primary source of electricity generation, to the extent of 40 per cent.

He said that several unconventional resources would play an important role in increasing the demand of coal bed methane, tight gas sands and basin-centered gas, shale gas, in-situ combustion (CBM and heavy oil), oil shale and methane hydrates.

About the current CBM activity in the world he said that North Americas shift to shale gas development, USAs CBM development, in-field drilling, Canadas development in select areas marked the shift.

Fossil fuels and specifically coal, he said, would play an important role in meeting energy demand in the foreseeable future. Alternative and renewable energy sources would grow and other unconventional resources would play a larger role in meeting energy demand, he said.

Pro-vice chancellor of the university Dr Rafia Ahmed Shaikh, director of the centre Dr Sarfraz Hussain Solangi, Dr Imdadullah Siddiqui and geologists Dr Imdad Ali Brohi and Dr Asadullah Kazi also spoke at the seminar which was attended by geologists from the University of Punjab, NED University of Engineering, Quaid-i-Azam University, Mehran University of Engineering and Technology, Bahria University, representatives of Sindh Coal Authority, PCSIR, Mineral and Mining Department and other research organisations.
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http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect...required-to-harness-thar-coal-mubarakmand-520
 
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HYDERABAD: Prominent scientist Dr Samar Mubarakmand, who is a member of Planning Commission, has said that Pakistan has world’s second largest coal deposits, which will take three to four years to be put to use.

He was speaking at a seminar on “Coal bed methane (CBM) prospects of Sindh, a venture of opportunities for growth” organised by the Centre for Pure and Applied Geology of the University of Sindh.

He said that although he was not an expert on coal but being a member of the Planning Commission whose responsibilities included developing the resources and preparing roadmap for national development he had studied Thar coal and visited Tharparkar several times.

He said that every Pakistani wished to put Thar coal into use for producing energy and work had started on eight blocks.

He said the world faced the spectre of fast depletion of energy resources. There were 45 locations in the world of natural gas which could be converted into diesel and electricity and help contain pollution, he said.

Robert H. Gales, vice-president of Geoscience, Weatherford, USA, said in his keynote presentation that Pakistan was among 10 countries with large deposits of natural resources including coal.

He said that the fossil fuel would be main energy producer in foreseeable future and coal would remain a primary source of electricity generation, to the extent of 40 per cent.

He said that several unconventional resources would play an important role in increasing the demand of coal bed methane, tight gas sands and basin-centered gas, shale gas, in-situ combustion (CBM and heavy oil), oil shale and methane hydrates.

About the current CBM activity in the world he said that North Americas shift to shale gas development, USAs CBM development, in-field drilling, Canadas development in select areas marked the shift.

Fossil fuels and specifically coal, he said, would play an important role in meeting energy demand in the foreseeable future. Alternative and renewable energy sources would grow and other unconventional resources would play a larger role in meeting energy demand, he said.

Pro-vice chancellor of the university Dr Rafia Ahmed Shaikh, director of the centre Dr Sarfraz Hussain Solangi, Dr Imdadullah Siddiqui and geologists Dr Imdad Ali Brohi and Dr Asadullah Kazi also spoke at the seminar which was attended by geologists from the University of Punjab, NED University of Engineering, Quaid-i-Azam University, Mehran University of Engineering and Technology, Bahria University, representatives of Sindh Coal Authority, PCSIR, Mineral and Mining Department and other research organisations.
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DAWN.COM | National | ?Up to four years required to harness Thar coal?

Why MOU with any company still not signed by GOP??????
 
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India has withdrawn herself from Iran pak india gas line,,, because india does not trust on us for energy source,,,
how can pakistan trust indian companies for energy resources..its just simple.
 
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