Thank you from China

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

He tells the truth. A thing which is very popular. Outside China.

Not as popular as claiming that Iraq had WMD that could destroy Europe in 30 mins......................which resulted in the murder of over 1 million innocent Iraqi men, women and children.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

In every way you look at your "Indian" Muslims with the same suspicion we look at ours.

It's a fascinating interplay I observe.

Just nationhood changed for them.

They get hit both sides of the border.

I live in a city dominated by them.

My colleagues, my staff, even my driver is originally from delhi.

But, there is a difference between them and some people (like W.11) who are still more indian despite their 2 generations being buried here.

Such people have no self respect & don’t deserve it either.

@padamchen what would you say to lets say a Panjabi or Sindhi whose family came to india and in 2020, he openly professes his love for Pakistan and equates everything about your country to Pakistan?

You would have him in jail serving time for sedition or lynched.

 

[grey boy 2]

W11 is indian origin.. same stock, origin as gangudeshis.. hence his love for em.

Thanks for clarification of his identity of origin bro, unfortunately most newer members have no idea why he's so obessed and hated China, two faces of the same coin= a typical closet Indian

 

[kankan326]

Cant see any different to Chinese people who spread 24/7 China propaganda. And many lies.

Chinese didn't post so many anti-US threads. Most threads are self defence.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Thanks for clarification of his identity of origin bro, unfortunately most newer members have no idea why he's so obessed and hated China, two faces of the same coin= a typical closet Indian

He has more in common with these people than us.

 

[padamchen]

I live in a city dominated by them.

My colleagues, my staff, even my driver is originally from delhi.

But, there is a difference between them and some people (like W.11) who are still more indian despite their 2 generations being buried here.

Such people have no self respect & don’t deserve it either.

@padamchen what would you say to lets say a Panjabi or Sindhi whose family came to india and in 2020, he openly professes his love for Pakistan and equates everything about your country to Pakistan?

You would have him in jail serving time for sedition or lynched.

I'm not pointing fingers like a kid or passing judgment at all.

I think it's a very very complex situation.

Most of you stayed put on ancestral lands.

Most of us did too.

But 15 million people moved. Near about 50:50 both sides.

We have similar old folk loving Pakistan. But the later generations have little to no connect.

The same dies not seem to be the case with the mohajir community which still seems to harbor sentiments for their ancestral land.

As you rightly said, 3rd and 4th generations.

Is it because there is still a huge Muslim community in India so India is still seen as a Muslim homeland (there's a term for it) while hardly any Hindus remain in Pakistan so the same feelings are no longer seen in recent generations of Punjabi refugees that make up the city of Delhi?

 

[grey boy 2]

He has more in common with these people than us.

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[Sharma Ji]

Not as popular as claiming that Iraq had WMD that could destroy Europe in 30 mins......................which resulted in the murder of over 1 million innocent Iraqi men, women and children.

China's lies, incompetence and deception on the virus crisis is their WMDs in eye-raq moment. Said this in another thread too.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

I'm not pointing fingers like a kid or passing judgment at all.

I think it's a very very complex situation.

Most of you stayed put on ancestral lands.

Most of us did too.

But 15 million people moved. Near about 50:50 both sides.

We have similar old folk loving Pakistan. But the later generations have little to no connect.

The same dies not seem to be the case with the mohajir community which still seems to harbor sentiments for their ancestral land.

As you rightly said, 3rd and 4th generations.

Is it because there is still a huge Muslim community in India so India is still seen as a Muslim homeland (there's a term for it) while hardly any Hindus remain in Pakistan so the same feelings are no longer seen in recent generations of Punjabi refugees that make up the city of Delhi?

My driver is in his 60s, I call him Kalam Bhai, his grandfather was a soldier in the british army.. his father came to Pak but half his family still lives in India. His grandfather didnt come to Pak (his grandmother did lol).

He has been working for us for over 3 years now, (former PIA employee).

He’s older than my father and thus I respect him , we talk about everything. How he visited india decades back, how his chacha and aunts visited Pakistan and so on. His children, his daughters (I call them sisters)... but in the past almost 4 years I have never seen him do what W.11 does.

I have a Panjabi friend, infact one of my best friends... hes been my brother for 15 years his family also saw the horrors of 47 and migrated from eastern Panjab.. he does wish to go and visit his ancestoral graves, house, his village.

But never have I heard or seen him act like w11 guy.

Im sure thats the case with migrants from Pak to india.

I also have Hindu friends I met through my work here at city courts, Karachi.
A Sindhi Hindu Rajput... he is a proud man.. a proud Sindhi a proud Hindu and proud Rajput but in all the time ive spent with the guy, never have I seen him bow to india..

Now if these people who were effected much more by independence dont have any such love for india.. what makes ppl like W11 go all retard?

Doc, you have to understand I dont hate any religion or even race (I do troll, trolls but im not a fukin bigot).

I respect all people, all religions.. but I dont like what ppl like W11 stand for.

But again indian muslims had been coming to Pak till the 90s.. these ppl didnt come here for their love for Pakistan, they came to Pak as more of economic migrants unlike the people who came here during 47. Those are the people who sacrificed everything for this country they call home today.
Others they can go to the deepest pita of hell.

 

[fitpOsitive]

you are realy love China, thank you

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good shot buddy.

 

[Daniel808]

He has more in common with these people than us.

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lol you made my day

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

lol you made my day

That is sadly the truth and reflects in his posting pattern.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

China's lies, incompetence and deception on the virus crisis is their WMDs in eye-raq moment. Said this in another thread too.

So when did China murder 1 million innocent men, women and children over a 14 year period?

 

[padamchen]

My driver is in his 60s, I call him Kalam Bhai, his grandfather was a soldier in the british army.. his father came to Pak but half his family still lives in India. His grandfather didnt come to Pak (his grandmother did lol).

He has been working for us for over 3 years now, (former PIA employee).

He’s older than my father and thus I respect him , we talk about everything. How he visited india decades back, how his chacha and aunts visited Pakistan and so on. His children, his daughters (I call them sisters)... but in the past almost 4 years I have never seen him do what W.11 does.

I have a Panjabi friend, infact one of my best friends... hes been my brother for 15 years his family also saw the horrors of 47 and migrated from eastern Panjab.. he does wish to go and visit his ancestoral graves, house, his village.

But never have I heard or seen him act like w11 guy.

Im sure thats the case with migrants from Pak to india.

I also have Hindu friends I met through my work here at city courts, Karachi.
A Sindhi Hindu Rajput... he is a proud man.. a proud Sindhi a proud Hindu and proud Rajput but in all the time ive spent with the guy, never have I seen him bow to india..

Now if these people who were effected much more by independence dont have any such love for india.. what makes ppl like W11 go all retard?

Doc, you have to understand I dont hate any religion or even race (I do troll, trolls but im not a fukin bigot).

I respect all people, all religions.. but I dont like what ppl like W11 stand for.

But again indian muslims had been coming to Pak till the 90s.. these ppl didnt come here for their love for Pakistan, they came to Pak as more of economic migrants unlike the people who came here during 47. Those are the people who sacrificed everything for this country they call home today.
Others they can go to the deepest pita of hell.

You make a great point about the 90s. Spot on. It was a watershed moment in the relationship between the Pakistan and India Muslim communities.

Till that time Pakistan was the senior brother. Grudgingly. But senior. Looked up to. Talked about.

A lot of this had to do with the glamour and power of the Muslim underworld in Mumbai. And it's connect to Pakistan. The tiresome triangle of Mumbai Karachi Dubai was not yet the norm or necessity.

In the absence of a strong head cleric accepted by the entire community, Indian Muslims took their orders and emotional and communal and financial and power support from Bombay.

With UP and Bihar being the back country. Feeder hinterland. Like the Mafia and Godfather in the US and the Sicilian countryside.

Then a lot of things happened one after another in quick succession in the 90s.

The underworld was killed.

Temple politics and Hindu awakening.

Rath Yatra.

Babri.

Mumbai bomb riots and bomb blasts.

And all this against the backdrop of the Congress sweeping economic liberalisation and the begining of a sleeping sarkari India waking up and lumbering upwards. With increasing pace through. The 90s to the end of the millennium.

The Indian Muslim community was now effectively headless. And under serious state pressure for the first time. And Hindus were dealing with them as a unit and not at local levels anymore.

The Indian Muslim started for the first time wondering whether there was the need to do something differently. As he saw visible signs of progress all around.

Pakistan ceased to be the senior brother during this time.

Then came Kargil.

Then came Gujarat. The nail in their coffin.

And finally 26/11 made the split complete.

Today they are in such a position that they realise what's being done to them, and they know there is little capital in looking in your direction for help.

The Indian Muslim will sink or swim on his own.

What he has in front of him is a militant Hindu right and a large liberal secular counterweight.

Neither if which have any patience or time for Delhi and Nizamuddin type stints.

I've been discussing the same with @notorious_eagle and @xeuss just last night.

 

[Sharma Ji]

So when did China murder 1 million innocent men, women and children over a 14 year period?

We're not done with the virus death count yet.

and by their 'WMD eye-raq moment' I meant their lying to and deceiving the world.

the initial cover up

the alleged disappearing of whistle blowers

their clout in the WHO

the WHO's shoddy investigation and pro China statements when all hell was breaking lose in China

barring inter China travel but allowing Chinese people and people in China at the time to go all over the world

pre-hoarding billions of masks, PPE and subsequently profiteering off of it

the origin of the bug itself
the role the BSL - 4 lab in Wuhan played
virus deals with Obama and Trudeau

this will be one hell of an investigation, wonder how deep the rabbit hole goes here ?

When energy/chemical or other types of big companies etc cause disasters, there is an investigation and people are held accountable. The world must investigate what happened in China, every aspect of it.

Innocent till proven guilty, but clearly, there were major lapses handling it on the part of the Chinese, those bits are in the public domain and indisputable.