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[Han Patriot]

Lol, Pathetic
Your kilo is the Outdated one, without AIP (Air Independent Propulsion) Technology.

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  Germany – Fuel Cell
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  Sweden – Stirling
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  Japan – Stirling
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  France – MESMA
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  Spain – Fuel Cell
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  India – Fuel Cell
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  Russia – Fuel Cell
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  People’s Republic of China – Stirling

FYI, India do not have an indigenous AIP yet, as usual, it's in development.

 

[Daniel808]

FYI, India do not have an indigenous AIP yet, as usual, it's in development.

Thanks for input.
already fixed


AIP Usage Around The World
As of 2016, the following countries have developed their own AIP systems to be fitted on submarines.

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  Germany – Fuel Cell
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  Sweden – Stirling
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  Japan – Stirling
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  France – MESMA
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  Spain – Fuel Cell
• 
  Russia – Fuel Cell
• 
  People’s Republic of China – Stirling

 

[Beast]

You sound as if you don't trust your own Navy too much despite 10 times bigger but rely on treason of the Russians. What makes you believe Russia will sell Vietnam for a handful Yuan?


Aip is nice but not decisive. Aip sub can stay longer under water but is useless if easily being detected by enemy sub.

Dont twist my words. When did I say we depend on Russian? Its more of Russian depend on us. They try to ask for more money for the USD 400 billion oil deal. But our president Xi outright ask Putin to stick to market rate. Like the C929 project is more of Russian asking for partnership rather than China wants to partner with them. Russian agree China to be project leader and they are just partner.

And once again I think you are confused or probably say things just for the sake of saying. China Yuan is far superior than the outdated Kilo. Yuan sub with AIP is only available from China. You vietnam navy can continue stick with the non AIP kilo from Russian. Now RTN has some better sub with AIP that can outright sink your whole vietnam navy.

 

[AndrewJin]

FYI, India do not have an indigenous AIP yet, as usual, it's in development.

No, already developed as one part of the 2012 supa powa achievement

 

[Han Patriot]

No, already developed as one part of the 2012 supa powa achievement

https://sputniknews.com/military/201610271046799890-india-scorpene-submarine-aip/

Aas of Oct 2016 still not tested. Supposed to be installed on Scorpene, but too much delay hence cancelled.

 

[AndrewJin]

https://sputniknews.com/military/201610271046799890-india-scorpene-submarine-aip/

Aas of Oct 2016 still not tested. Supposed to be installed on Scorpene, but too much delay hence cancelled.

Nothing can stop the omnipotent supa powa 2012, this is not a failure, but a glorious victory in the beginning. let's wait for 2012.

 

[Viet]

Dont twist my words. When did I say we depend on Russian? Its more of Russian depend on us. They try to ask for more money for the USD 400 billion oil deal. But our president Xi outright ask Putin to stick to market rate. Like the C929 project is more of Russian asking for partnership rather than China wants to partner with them. Russian agree China to be project leader and they are just partner.

And once again I think you are confused or probably say things just for the sake of saying. China Yuan is far superior than the outdated Kilo. Yuan sub with AIP is only available from China. You vietnam navy can continue stick with the non AIP kilo from Russian. Now RTN has some better sub with AIP that can outright sink your whole vietnam navy.

It is you that hopes for treason, the Russians will sell their soul their pride for some yuans. You should know, in underwater battle the winner is the sub, that at first detects enemy sub and fires on it, not the sub with Aip.

 

[Han Patriot]

It is you that hopes for treason, the Russians will sell their soul their pride for some yuans. You should know, in underwater battle the winner is the sub, that at first detects enemy sub and fires on it, not the sub with Aip.

Seriously speaking, Russia is really at the end of what they can really sell. Sometimes China continues to buy out of diplomatic consideration rather than technological reasons.

Well genius, the one with AIP happen to be the one which can hide the longest.

 

[帅的一匹]

Thanks for input.
already fixed


AIP Usage Around The World
As of 2016, the following countries have developed their own AIP systems to be fitted on submarines.

• 
  Germany – Fuel Cell
• 
  Sweden – Stirling
• 
  Japan – Stirling
• 
  France – MESMA
• 
  Spain – Fuel Cell
• 
  Russia – Fuel Cell
• 
  People’s Republic of China – Stirling

Sooner or later, there will be a third kind. Cooling reactor.

 

[Nabil365]

Singapore uses submarines for reconnaissance.The submarines have reduced magnetic signatures.How about Thailand's subs?

 

[Svantana]

 

[beijingwalker]

Thailand buys $530 million submarine from China

 

[Phuri]

Singapore uses submarines for reconnaissance.The submarines have reduced magnetic signatures.How about Thailand's subs?

Thailand's sub's supposed to be use to keep the Gulf of Thailand open. Thai Navy realized that in case of war, the enemy can easily blockade Thailand by closing the Gulf.

 

[Nabil365]

Thailand's sub's supposed to be use to keep the Gulf of Thailand open. Thai Navy realized that in case of war, the enemy can easily blockade Thailand by closing the Gulf.

So an attacking or defensive role?

 

[Satria Manggala]

Royal Thai Navy Lays Keel for Second OPV
24 Juni 2017`

Second OPV to be named HTMS Karnataka (image : RTN)

The Royal Thai Navy (RTN) has laid down the keel for its second 90 m offshore patrol vessel (OPV), which it is building in collaboration with BAE Systems.

The keel laying ceremony was held on 23 June at the RTN’s Mahidol Adulyadej Naval Dockyard in Sattahip, Chonburi, a facility managed by state-owned company Bangkok Dock.

The OPV, based on BAE Systems’ River-class platform, is scheduled to be launched in 2018. The RTN’s first OPV, HTMS Krabi , was commissioned in August 2013 and also built at the Mahidol Adulyadej dockyard through co-operation with BAE Systems.

Jane’s understands that the RTN has a total requirement for six OPVs of the type.

The RTN acquired the design of the OPV from BAE Systems in 2009, with the UK group also signing a contract to support the construction of the second OPV in February 2016.

Krabi class OPV (image : shipbucket)

At the keel laying ceremony, the RTN said that the building of the second OPV will consist of two phases and have a total budget of THB5.5 billion (USD170 million).

Phase one runs from 2015 to 2018 and is allocated THB2.85 billion. It includes the construction of the platform, and the procurement of machinery, materials, logistics support, and technical services. Phase two – allocated THB2.65 billion – includes the procurement of command, surveillance, and weapon control systems and stretches from 2016 to 2018.

The OPV, which has an overall beam of 13.5 m, a draught of 3.5 m, and a top speed of 25 kt, will be fitted with a combat, navigation, and communication suite provided by Thales and Boeing’s Harpoon surface-to-surface guided weapon system.

(Jane's)