kilo is also in the list. vietnam bought 6 improved kilo without AIP for 2 billion USD. so we would choose Chinese varient with C708 Ashm as being 300m USD per unit is the same.
Yes greatest news ever. I hope the Siamese buy more Chinese submarines.
This is bad news for Vietnam Navy. Kilo will be sitting duck for ST26
Don't worry, even Vietnam want. China will never sell them good stuff. We value Myanmar, Thailand better than them.
Russian is not Chinese best friend. Russian are just strategic partner. Russian say they are going to build super powa nuclear aircraft carrier four years ago and now not even a screw for it is made. You think you can trust Russian words?
You are just being selective in choosing argument to suit your agenda. If Russian Kilo is so good, why didnt China buy more instead of building its own Yuan submarine? As for your good friend Russian. They promise China to release all source code for your Kilo in even of war between China and vietnam. Russian say Vietnam is not even worth a penny and can be betrayed anytime. Reminbi looks more attractive.
then how much your country could put on table for such a deal? destroyers and subs with blueprints, that won't be cheap.
S-26T AIP Subs Thailand will bully your outdated kilo in the middle of ocean.
Lol, Pathetic
Your kilo is the Outdated one, without AIP (Air Independent Propulsion) Technology.
Every latest Modern Subs today, have AIP Technology.
Quiet and Deadly
You sound as if you don't trust your own Navy too much despite 10 times bigger but rely on treason of the Russians. What makes you believe Russia will sell Vietnam for a handful Yuan?Russian is not Chinese best friend. Russian are just strategic partner. Russian say they are going to build super powa nuclear aircraft carrier four years ago and now not even a screw for it is made. You think you can trust Russian words?
You are just being selective in choosing argument to suit your agenda. If Russian Kilo is so good, why didnt China buy more instead of building its own Yuan submarine? As for your good friend Russian. They promise China to release all source code for your Kilo in even of war between China and vietnam. Russian say Vietnam is not even worth a penny and can be betrayed anytime. Reminbi looks more attractive.
Aip is nice but not decisive. Aip sub can stay longer under water but is useless if easily being detected by enemy sub.Lol, Pathetic
Your kilo is the Outdated one, without AIP (Air Independent Propulsion) Technology.
Every latest Modern Subs today, have AIP Technology.
Quiet and Deadly
ADVANTAGES OF A.I.P
The use of AIP on a diesel-electric submarine, greatly increases their underwater endurance, allowing them to continuously stay submerged for weeks without surfacing. Although the submarine eventually needs to surface to charge its batteries and their endurance is nowhere on-par with nuclear powered submarines, the vast increase in endurance offered by AIP gives them an advantage over non AIP equipped diesel-electric submarines.
In April 2006, a German Navy submarine U-32, equipped with a Siemens proton exchange membrane (PEM) compressed hydrogen fuel cell AIP, made a 2800 km uninterrupted underwater journey without surfacing/snorkeling! This is in stark contrast to non-AIP equipped submarines which can cover only 500-800 km before they have to surface and recharge their batteries by running noisy diesel generators. Comparatively, a nuclear-powered submarine has unlimited underwater endurance!
Again in 2013, U-32 set a record by traveling underwater continuously for 18 days without surfacing! Comparatively, a non-AIP diesel sub has an underwater endurance of just 4-6 days before it has to surface. This shows that AIP-equipped diesel-electric submarines are far more capable than their non-AIP equipped counterparts when it comes to endurance.
AIP Usage Around The World
As of 2016, the following countries have developed their own AIP systems to be fitted on submarines.
