Thai Defence & Economy Forum

[Shotgunner51]

yes. bro
type 039 varients would be the best what we can get. Russian offered amur class but it cost nearly 500m USD for a units. it's too much expensive for us.

Agree, unless one can print money, otherwise money is always the constraint. Thailand being financially much more potent still has to justify sizable expenditure (procurement + operation) on establishing a fleet that exceeds coastal patrol capabilities (long range AIP subs with ASM firepower), let alone Myanmar at the moment. Also the aircraft carrier may use escort. Myanmar has smaller maritime interests to protect, and which are not under major threats, so no urgent need to invest in S26T type of assets yet, not to mention S20 which even has SLCM land strike capability.

 

[Aung Zaya]

Agree, unless one can print money, otherwise money is always the constraint. Thailand being financially much more potent still has to justify sizable expenditure on establishing a fleet that exceeds coastal patrol capabilities (long range AIP subs with ASM firepower), let alone Myanmar at the moment.

how much it cost Thailand verient per unit..? bro Thailand varient is the best in region according to some news.

 

[zeronet]

yes. bro
type 039 varients would be the best what we can get. Russian offered amur class but it cost nearly 500m USD for a units. it's too much expensive for us.

Amur class is an export version of the Lada class. The whole Lada project was terminated, so did Amur. There is no single exported Amur.

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

Photos taken from a press conference about S26T held on HTMS Chakri Naruebet (จักรีนฤเบศร; flagship of the Royal Thai Navy; aircraft carrier), 2nd May 2017

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Can a Thai-speaking member please translate what's written in these pictures? I'd like to know about the part mentioning single and double-hull submarines - is the S26 optional single-hull? @wanglaokan @Beast

 

[Shotgunner51]

how much it cost Thailand verient per unit..? bro Thailand varient is the best in region according to some news.

See post #6 for some intro, the S26T package is Baht 36 billion (~$1 billion) for three units.

 

[GS Zhou]

how much it cost Thailand verient per unit..? bro Thailand varient is the best in region according to some news.

1 billion USD for three units of AIP subs, incl. maintenance and overhaul services, supplies of torpedos and anti-ship missiles, crew training. That's the best offer you can find on this small planet

 

[grey boy 2]

Can a Thai-speaking member please translate what's written in these pictures? I'd like to know about the part mentioning single and double-hull submarines - is the S26 optional single-hull? @wanglaokan @Beast

Here you go, this was being translate by a Chinese member living in Thailand

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/chinese-weapon-exports.273332/page-63

 

[Aung Zaya]

Amur class is an export version of the Lada class. The whole Lada project was terminated, so did Amur. There is no single exported Amur.

ahh. yes. not now bro. they offered us 3 or 4 years back. lada class is not accept to service by Russia. so they're try to export as amur class to other countries including India and Syria. i dont know it is still producing or not now. bro

See post #6 for some intro, the S26T package is Baht 36 billion (~$1 billion) for three units.

so around 300m USD is very resonable for such good sub. having one of this type is way better than many of ming class. we should try this type.

1 billion USD for three units of AIP subs, incl. maintenance and overhaul services, supplies of torpedos and anti-ship missiles, crew training. That's the best offer you can find on this small planet

actually it's the only choice for MM while Russian counterpart are too expensive.

 

[帅的一匹]

ahh. yes. not now bro. they offered us 3 or 4 years back. lada class is not accept to service by Russia. so they're try to export as amur class to other countries including India and Syria. i dont know it is still producing or not now. bro

so around 300m USD is very resonable for such good sub. having one of this type is way better than many of ming class. we should try this type.

actually it's the only choice for MM while Russian counterpart are too expensive.

So Myanmar navy will go for S26T?

 

[xunzi]

$1bil for 3 AIP subs, that is a bargain! That is a friendly price. We could have charge for far more but strategically it's important than the max profit for us. Congrats!

 

[dy1022]

Can a Thai-speaking member please translate what's written in these pictures? I'd like to know about the part mentioning single and double-hull submarines - is the S26 optional single-hull? @wanglaokan @Beast

THE BENEFITS OF USING TYPE S26T SUBMARINES

1. High Stealth Capability

AIP allows the S26T to stay in the water five times longer than submarine without AIP.

2. Many Powerful Weapon Systems

Three of them are torpedo, anti surface missile, and undersea mine.

3. Safety

The submarine is designed to have many compartments. In case of an emergency, compartment(s?) can be shut away from the rest of the sub to prevent further flooding and crew can float the sub to the surface.

4. Training

Two years of crew training.

5. Maintenance

8 years of insurance and 5 maintenance check ups during that 8 years (3 Dock check and 2 Minor overhaul). Also, technical crew are provided to the Thai Navy for 2 years.

 

[Aung Zaya]

So Myanmar navy will go for S26T?

nope. bro
we will come with own spec and needs.
if we go S26 , it will be S26M.

 

[帅的一匹]

nope. bro
we will come with own spec and needs.
if we go S26 , it will be S26M.

Or S20M.

$1bil for 3 AIP subs, that is a bargain! That is a friendly price. We could have charge for far more but strategically it's important than the max profit for us. Congrats!

Money is never the most important thing in this world, its influence.

 

[Aung Zaya]

Or S20M

may be. bro
i saw ur posts saying Myanmar have zero exp in operating sub.
this is not all true bro. we're trying to own sub since 2010. may be even earlier. we already sent officers for Sub training to India , Russia and pakistan. and we have exp in operating small sub like Yono class at the time we had very good relation with north korea.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/myanmar-navy-starts-submarine-training-in-pakistan.259608/

 

[帅的一匹]

may be. bro
i saw ur posts saying Myanmar have zero exp in operating sub.
this is not all true bro. we're trying to own sub since 2010. may be even earlier. we already sent officers for Sub training to India , Russia and pakistan. and we have exp in operating small sub like Yono class at the time we had very good relation with north korea.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/myanmar-navy-starts-submarine-training-in-pakistan.259608/

Both India and Russia uses Kilo class, I think it's a perfect fit for your navy?