Thackeray wants Hindu Sucide squad

[Asif Afridi]

Thackeray wants Hindu Sucide squad

He can volunteer himself to set an example.

 

[Flintlock]

One can hardly say Thackeray and his views do not have mass support, when he's elected by the Maharashtrian people.

Please do tell me, when was the last time his party was elected?

Afaik, Thackeray has been involved in instigating killings on the base of racial/religious beliefs, something which you perhaps could compare with the likes of the Taliban, though there are doubts over whether the Taliban actually did this also.

Perhaps, but he's changed his positions frequently over the years.
Sometimes he praises muslims and says that "we must treat them as equals", sometimes he calls for the "extermination", other times he talks of his "admiration" of the muslims of mumbai.

Basically, he says whatever he thinks will get him the most attention.

He's been around since the 60s, saying bombastic stuff. At first it worked, and he used to get elected regularly. Later people realized that he's just a fraud, and his political career is for all intents and purposes, over.

 

[Flintlock]

I can imagine how one could do such a thing. Laughing this off as a joke won't get you very far. If one wanted to, he himself could attach a small explosive to himself, walk into a Mosque and blow up the Mosque. Mission accomplished.

Well in his defence, he said that they need to "combat terror", not "blow up mosques", but whatever....

It turns out that he said the same thing several years ago...but that didn't seem to have much effect.

 

[Comet]

Looks like new UBL is under construction.

 

[Comet]

Jana,

You and Thakeray by the Grace of God are a minority.

As rabble rouser both of you are in the same league!!

And yet, none cares for both of you and your comments!

Do you have some thing personal with JANA. Every time there is a news or something you start blaming her or the whole journalist community.
Provide some facts. Prove yourself not just useless posts.

 

[Energon]

Jana has posted a very good article, point being extremists in all religions including Hinduism, will call for suicide bombings, should this be their only outlet to overcome a perceived threat.

I don't buy this argument at all. If the main concern is to ensure the existence of a community (ethnic, religious, etc) history clearly shows that the best strategy is to increase the level of education, improve governance and general organization, attain financial security and economic importance; and most of all, develop the ability to be adaptable.

Thackeray wants none of these things; he just wants to compete with the Islamist terrorists and show the world that he too has the influence to produce suicide cadres.

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

Jana may have posted the article, but Jana forgets one thing.

Thackeray may howl, shriek and whine, but he will not find the mass following as Obama can.

Islam has a concept of jihad and that can whip up frenzy and camp followers, there is nothing of the sort in Hinduism or Christianity that can ignite the illiterate to kill and create mayhem.

In Hinduism there is no mandatory congregation like the Friday prayers of Islam wherein the clergy can subvert the mind.

In Christianity, the attendance at Churches are so low that the priests have nearly become redundant to the religion.

and importantly, no one in India cares much for the ranting of such idiots as Thackeray.

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

Bal Thackeray is a Hindu political leader that in his own mind is trying to fight what he sees as an external threat. This is much the same as the philosophy of a MINORITY of "Muslims". Playing with words does not prove your point.

Trying to confuse religion with politics is playing with ideas, RR.

Religion can ignite passions, politics can't.

Thackeray is not only against people of the Islamic faith, but against all those who are not Maharastrians. He wants all non Maharastrians to leave Mumbai. He is thus a total fool and it is people like Jana, who have nothing better to do, who give him the ''fame'' that he is so pathetically wishes to garner.

Therefore, he is a total failure and appeals to a minority of sectarian following of his.

 

[Flintlock]

^^^Exactly.

All that glitters is not gold.

 

[muse]

And tamils in Lanka, are they Muslims as well?. -- You deliberately attempt to defame and malign Islam - what did earn you? what has it earned those whom you seek to emulate?- you may wish to reconsider - people can learn from you, but please do not imagine that they cannot distinguish legitimate points and attempts to defame and malign

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Islam has a concept of jihad and that can whip up frenzy and camp followers, there is nothing of the sort in Hinduism or Christianity that can ignite the illiterate to kill and create mayhem.

The LTTE seem to be doing fine Salim.

It is not Islam per se - it is political causes in the guise of religion.

AQ's underlying goal (or lack of it considering how outlandish it is) is political, and is based in political grievances. Israel, "occupation" of the "Holy Lands" etc.

The Taliban arose to fill in the power vacuum left in the wake of the destruction and chaos of the Afghan Jihad.

Hamas and Hezbollah - strong political underpinnings.

Ben Gurion's terrorism - political.

The Rawandan Genocide?

The LTTE, though not Muslim, have used similarly barbaric tactics for achieving their own political goals.

These frequent attempts to paint Islam as being uniquely "blessed" for "terrorism and violence" by distorting or ignoring the context within which events occur is becoming a tiresome canard.

I realize you have no love lost for religion, even less for Islam in particular, but don't let your bias completely remove any prospect of understanding the real issues behind extremism under the guise of Islam, and resort to the intellectually deficient window dressing of the Neo Cons when it comes to analyzing terrorism.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Religion can ignite passions, politics can't.

Any ideology can, politics being part of it.

The communists of Russia and China, and the genocides of Africa are proof that it is not religion, rather any ideology taken to extremes that is poison.

 

[Flintlock]

And tamils in Lanka, are they Muslims as well?. -- You deliberately attempt to defame and malign Islam - what did ear you? what has it earned those whom you seek to emulate?- you may wish to reconsider - people can learn from you, but please do not imagine that they cannot distinguish legitimate points and attempts to defame and malign

I'm sorry, but these are the realities. If you consider it maligning Islam, well then what can be said?

Tamil Tigers are fighting for a separate nation. Their motivations for suicide bombings are not taken from Hinduism.

How can I be so sure of this? Because the LTTE doesn't use hindu texts to motivate its cadres.

They have no references to hinduism in their ideology. Its about Tamils - an ethnic group.

 

[Flintlock]

Any ideology can, politics being part of it.

The communists of Russia and China, and the genocides of Africa are proof that it is not religion, rather any ideology taken to extremes that is poison.

OK religion IS ideology. But lets drop that.

The point is that Islam already has the concept - Jehad - to motivate legions of suicide bombers.

Hinduism doesn't.

Talking about suicide bombing is one thing, and motivating people to do it on a large scale is another.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

I'm sorry, but these are the realities. If you consider it maligning Islam, well then what can be said?

Tamil Tigers are fighting for a separate nation. Their motivations for suicide bombings are not taken from Hinduism.

How can I be so sure of this? Because the LTTE doesn't use hindu texts to motivate its cadres.

The realities are that you too are cherry picking one aspect of the problem (the religious part) and using it to justify your argument of religion.

You and others who make the same arguments in their attempts to denigrate religion, conveniently choose to ignore the political underpinnings of a vast majority of these conflicts, because it does not serve the narrative of "religion, and specifically Islam, being the root of all evil".

If the LTTE use Grimm's Fairy Tales to motivate their cadres to blow themselves up, does that now mean that the Brothers Grimm were evil?