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Now that the CDR completed, I think some of manufacturing footage of the first prototype will be leaked to the press very soon. An important milestone for Turkish aviation.View attachment 722153
Hurjet CDR Report
Now that the CDR completed, I think some of manufacturing footage of the first prototype will be leaked to the press very soon. An important milestone for Turkish aviation.
HÜRJET’in motoru resmen belli oldu | SavunmaSanayiST
TUSAŞ tarafından geliştirilen HÜRJET Jet Tekamül ve Hafif Taarruz Uçağı’nda kullanılacak turbojet motor, resmen belli oldu. HÜRJET’in turbojet motoru, daha öncewww.savunmasanayist.com
"İlk kez SavunmaSanayiST.com tarafından öne sürülen bu bilgi, General Electric kaynakları tarafından da doğrulandı. HÜRJET’in prototip uçaklarında ve yerli motor programına göre ilk seri üretim uçaklarında, GE404 Turbojet Motoru’nun kullanılması bekleniyor."
SavunmaSanayiST.com reports that the supply contract of F404 for Hurjet is allegedly confirmed by General Electric sources, but the website didn't reveal who were those GE sources. So far nothing of such deal is mentioned on GE Aviation website. No news from the US government of issing such an export license, either. Very intriguing. If Turkey is able to obtain the engines, it may imply that Biden administration has tacitly lifted the arms sanction on Turkey and the country may proceed to export their attack helicopters with LHTEC engine in the future.
How do you know we can't get LHTEC engines
According to this presentation it seems that Hurjet program showing as one of the company's goals in the GE's investor meetings.
Turkey is one of the most important F-16 operators around the world. GE(US) engines are used not only in the air force combatant fleet, but also in cargo, airborne, utulity, tanker, land force's aircrafts and even some maritime aircrafts of naval forces. Outside military structures, Turkish Airlines is one of the worldwide users of Usa aero engines in civil aviation. Every year, dozens of engine sets travel to and from the USA. In addition to existing maintenance and logistics activities, TEI T-700-701D turboshaft engine continues to be under-licance-produce in Turkey within T-70 program. LHTEC engine sets also continues to come to Turkey within the scope of the T129 program. According to GE's Turkey operations and If we consider the TAI-GE partnership on TEI Jv: There is huge business experience that has produced thousands of different parts in 39 different engine types and having millions of hours of engineering work which spanning tens of years. Currently, Module Production, Engine Assembly and Test (AIT), Engine Design and Product Development activities continue in many product groups. Other than this, approximately 500 engineers at GE's R&D center in Gebze continue to participate in GE's worldwide projects.
I don't know whether GE engines will be used in Hurjet or not. But most of defense industry enthusiasts really do not know the extent CAATSA sanctions which Turkey subjected, or what its content what has been implemented until today. Moreover they don't feel the need to searc this either, even if they express their opinion like an expert.
The list is not comprehensive. GE website lists F414-INS6 as in development for Tejas Mk2, but is omitted here. Perhaps because this is 100% confirmed and thus no campaign is required.Another interesting thing is that F404 for Hurjet is mentioned, but not F110 for TF-X in the presentation document. Very intriguing.
Because it was reported by the media that Pakistan is still waiting for export clearance of LHTEC by the US government. If you have any news confirming that LHTEC engines getting a greenlight from the United States government, please share your sources.
Very good. Thank you. This is exactly I have been asking instead of a series of fantasies & unfounded claims that I was getting before. This is the first time I have ever seen that GE confirming that they are interested in supplying F404 for Hurjet, yet it is still unclear whether if the US government agrees with the deal not only because of sanctions, but also the fact that the US government was already refusing to issue an export license for LHTEC engines to Turkey so they could sell their attack helicopter to Pakistan.
Because F110 will not be main engine of MMU(TFX). Joint production or technical support studies continue for a new generation engine. One of the reason for choosing F110 in prototypes could be both Turkish aviation industry and the air maintenance and supply command have decades of engineering experience with these engines, idk. For example, the APU production project for MMU was given to a local company recently. Working with an engine that you have engineering libraries and experience can have many advantages. Mostly likely, F110 engines will be used in the prototypes to be produced first only for faster schedule goal, but the main engine sets will be a different and new generation jets.Another interesting thing is that F404 for Hurjet is mentioned, but not F110 for TF-X in the presentation document. Very intriguing.
The list is not comprehensive. GE website lists F414-INS6 as in development for Tejas Mk2, but is omitted here. Perhaps because this is 100% confirmed and thus no campaign is required.
But by this logic, Hurjet F404 is not confirmed and TF-X F110 is either 100% confirmed or 0% confirmed. I think the sensible thing is to avoid reading too much into this presentation.
Still, there is not any problem in LHTEC engines procurement for TAF's Atak program. Pakistan's unable to provide LHTEC engine issue is not only about Turkey, more about Pakistan-US relations. If I remember correctly, the USA was offered its own helicopter to Pakistan in the same tender. However, Pakistan-USA relations have been experiencing many problems in recent years, even if different dimensions comparing to Us-Turkey relations.
Because F110 will not be main engine of MMU(TFX)
AMCA is the fifth gen fighter. First batch is F414 powered and second larger batch is indigenous engine with foreign assistance, similar to how Turkey wants to proceed.I think it is listed as "F414: India Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft" rather than Tejas Mk.2, but I could be wrong and I am happy to learn new things.
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HÜRJET New Generation AJT’s CDR Phase Completed
The Critical Design Review (CDR) Phase of the HÜRJET, twin-seat, single-engine supersonic new generation Advanced Jet Trainer (AJT) and Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) was completed in early March 2021. According to original schedule the CDR Phase should have been completed in August 2020 (To+36...www.defenceturkey.com