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TF-X Turkish Fighter & Trainer Aircraft Projects

its not true... if its close fight, yes, but the whole cocept is to fire missile, and run away.. when you run away, you will need the speed and maneuver to burn off the missile engine...
basically, if missile is coming, when the jet turn left, the missile turn more to the left, because they calculate the meeting point and try to fly there... but when the jet does zigzag maneuver, it burns a lot of engine of missile and hugely diminish its distance.. i dont know if i could explain it

dude i know as the pilot you need to maneuvre away till missile has burned fuel, but you as the pilot dont see the missile physical. but you are awere cause of the systems where the missile is not cause of the window. thats what im trying to tell.
 
dude i know as the pilot you need to maneuvre away till missile has burned fuel, but you as the pilot dont see the missile physical. but you are awere cause of the systems where the missile is not cause of the window. thats what im trying to tell.
if you can see the missile with bear eyes, it means you will be hit most proably.. the best you can do is open your afterburner and try to run away if its Russian missile, but if it has latest heat seeking head, you are done.
actually what i want to say is, they want to put DRCM and other laser defence system in the future which will burn the head of missile(or make it blind with directing laser beam there) to make the aircraft run away.
 
Turkey Has Its Own High-Tech Fighter Jet in the Works

Ankara says the fifth generation fighter, called the TF-X, will be operational in just nine years.

By Kyle Mizokami
Jun 19, 2019

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Modern fighter jets are some of the most complex machines imaginable, yet one country that has never built one before, Turkey, is going to try its hand. At the Paris Air Show this week, the country is showing off a full-size replica of its future fighter while the country nears expulsion from the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter program.

The fighter, known as TF-X (Turkey, Fighter Experimental) is currently under development by Turkish Aerospace Industries. According to a promotional video, the jet will be 60 feet long by 39 feet wide. It will have a maximum speed of Mach 2 while running on two engines producing a combined 40,000 pounds of thrust. It will also have a maximum takeoff weight of 60,000 pounds, a maximum altitude of 55,000 feet, and a combat radius of 600 nautical miles (690 miles). The video also shows off clean, stealthy lines and internal weapons bays.

TF-X is generally comparable to the American F/A-18E Super Hornet, which is 60 feet long and has a wingspan of 44 feet. The Super Hornet is powered by two F414 afterburning turbofan engines generating a combined 44,000 feet of thrust, has a top speed of Mach 1.8 and a maximum takeoff weight of 66,000 pounds.

Turkey has been building up to this project for some time. The country is one of the few to actually build fighter jets, producing F-16s under license from the U.S. TAI also produces center fuselages, air inlet ducts, and weapons pylons for the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter. Turkey previously proposed joining forces with South Korea to build a fighter before deciding to strike out on its own.

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TF-X at the Paris Air Show, June 2019.

Although Turkey has experience with fighter production, design and development is a completely different ball game. The current lot of fifth generation fighters have proven costly and time consuming: the American F-35 Joint Strike Fighter has been in development for nearly twenty years and still has yet to enter full rate production while Russia, no slouch in the fighter business either, has spent nine years toiling away on the Sukhoi Su-57.


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Turkish F-16 participating in the country’s "Blue Homeland 2019" exercises.

How Turkey will develop complex items such as the nose-mounted radar, electronic warfare systems, cockpit interface, and systems integration is unknown. Turkey chose General Electric’s F-110 engine, used to power F-16, to initially power the TF-X until a domestic engine is developed.

Turkey may seek other help from American and European defense contractors. Russia recently offered the Su-57 to Turkey and might be willing to part the Sukhoi jet out, selling bits of technology to boost Turkey’s development.


TAI CEO Temel Kotil, speaking at the Paris Air Show, said the aircraft would be complete in 2023, with first flight in 2025. Kotil says the jet will enter service with the Turkish Air Force in 2028. Turkey currently flies 270 F-16 jets but is buying only 100 new F-35s. That leaves a requirement for 170 more fighters in the long term.

Actually, Turkey may end up needing a lot more fighters than that. Although an early supporter of the F-35 program, Turkey is currently embroiled in a spat with the U.S. because of its planned purchase of the Russian S-400 long range surface-to-air missile system. The U.S. is concerned that heightened defense ties between Ankara and Moscow could lead to secret F-35 information in Russian hands. Turkey, despite the S-400 being incompatible with NATO’s defense protocols, is standing firm and refusing to cancel the sale.

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Turkey’s first F-35 fighter, pictured at the aircraft delivery ceremony in June 2018.
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After repeated warnings, Washington has gone through the extraordinary step of halting Turkish F-35 flight training in the U.S. and contemplating ordering Turkish air force personnel to leave the country by the end of July. The U.S. is also exploring selling the handful of F-35s already built for Turkey to someone else, and dropping TAI as a F-35 parts supplier.

Whether that means Ankara will be able to replace this F-35 hole with brand new TF-X fighters remains to be seen.

Source: Defense News
 
"5 engine agreements have been made with GE from USA for the prototypes of MMU."

How we can trust them ???
No restriction on engine right now.


F-16

Turkey
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Turkish Air Force - TUAF

"Block 40 Modifications

The Peace Onyx I Block 40 aircraft are fitted with the GPS navigation system (LN-39 INS license-built by ASELSAN), APG-68(V) radar, automatic terrain-following radar, digital flight controls, more efficient chaff and flare dispensers, and the ability to carry AIM-7 and AIM-120 radar-guided BVR missiles. 'These Block 40 aircraft are also compatible with the LANTIRN low-level night navigation and attack system, and are powered by General Electric F110-GE-100 engines, which are built under license by TAI Engines at Eskisehir.' In 1994, TAI began the Falcon-Up modification program on the Peace Onyx I aircraft, consisting mainly of structural improvements."

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See Tusas link:

https://www.tei.com.tr/detay/f110-engine


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We have to make a target drone with 0.9 mach with sea skimming first
 
We have to make a target drone with 0.9 mach with sea skimming first
Sir; can that engines built for SOM by Kale used for this purpose? Or do we need something cheaper or much simple?
 
How Turkey will develop complex items such as the nose-mounted radar, electronic warfare systems, cockpit interface, and systems integration is unknown.

Lol, this part made all article dead for me since it seems the author has no idea that these parts are where Turkey actually the strongest.

-We make mission computers, radars, all kind of EW systems including PODs, cockpit design and full avionics suite for various platforms like ATAK, Hürkuş, soon ATAK ll and Hürjet will also use Turkish made avionics. Weapons and system full integration. Millions of lines software coded by Turkish engineers. Also, AESA radar is under development.

A defence guy should know at least this part if he writes an article about it.
 
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