TF-X Turkish Fighter & Trainer Aircraft Projects

[Mert_Ank]

Would have like to have seen diverterless supersonic inlet on TFX, like the DASSAULT 6th gen and BAE 5th gen.. Anyway, guess it's more of a hindrance to speed..

https://twitter.com/x/status/1140647801686233088

 

[cabatli_53]

We re not in the era of aircrafts hunting enemy by guns or very short range obsolete missiles after a period of dogfight tactics so The pilots canopy sight on 360 degree doesn’t make much sense anymore. 360 degree side looking radar and IRST perform superior and precision works than human eye in close and mid range combat scenarios. Rest is the mission of missile making sharp maneouvrings instead of aircraft itself.

 

[CAN_TR]

I'm also sure that TF-X will have 360° view similar to the F-35 Helmet.

Dogfights are history, the future is electronical warfare, superior radars and missiles strikes from beyond visual range.

 

[ziya]

I'm also sure that TF-X will have 360° view similar to the F-35 Helmet.

Dogfights are history, the future is electronical warfare, superior radars and missiles strikes from beyond visual range.

 

[Kamil_baku]

I'm also sure that TF-X will have 360° view similar to the F-35 Helmet.

Dogfights are history, the future is electronical warfare, superior radars and missiles strikes from beyond visual range.

its wrong because you still need to have a maneuver to run away from those missiles. it is very important..

 

[Rank]

Why all the aircrafts whether chinese, Kawasaki Japaniese and Turkish 5th gen fighters having similarities or almost 90% close to F22 Raptor design?? Aren’t they design something different kn their own or this is the only responsibility of US Aero designers to design something which will be later use by rest of the world to build thr jets based on American designs??

 

[TheMightyBender]

 

[rajvoSa]

Why all the aircrafts whether chinese, Kawasaki Japaniese and Turkish 5th gen fighters having similarities or almost 90% close to F22 Raptor design?? Aren’t they design something different kn their own or this is the only responsibility of US Aero designers to design something which will be later use by rest of the world to build thr jets based on American designs??

For similiar reasons why first gen of jet fighters Sabre and MiG 15 did.

 

[Mr.NiceGuy]

Why all the aircrafts whether chinese, Kawasaki Japaniese and Turkish 5th gen fighters having similarities or almost 90% close to F22 Raptor design?? Aren’t they design something different kn their own or this is the only responsibility of US Aero designers to design something which will be later use by rest of the world to build thr jets based on American designs??

Dude if you can make an airplane which has trapezoid shape please inform us.
This is the rule of being 5. generation aircraft. What do you expect from engineers? They design an airplane which can fly harmoniously with the rules of aerodynamics. Can fly harmoniously with Stealth capabilities. Can fly harmoniously with a human who can pilot it easily.
So this is what we get after all.

As I said if you can design an airplane which can fly harmoniously with those rules in trapezoid shape you might get that Nobel prize believe me.

 

[Rank]

Dude if you can make an airplane which has trapezoid shape please inform us.
This is the rule of being 5. generation aircraft. What do you expect from engineers? They design an airplane which can fly harmoniously with the rules of aerodynamics. Can fly harmoniously with Stealth capabilities. Can fly harmoniously with a human who can pilot it easily.
So this is what we get after all.

As I said if you can design an airplane which can fly harmoniously with those rules in trapezoid shape you might get that Nobel prize believe me.

Here is the answer

 

[rajvoSa]

That too. But it is a groundbreaking endeveour for military aviation industry, almost like it was going from propeler powered engine to the jet powered back in early 20st. So engineers are keeping it safe, not going nuts with its Star Trek designes, but priority is to make the first one of this kind, fully functional. And they are using proven, older design solutions and modifying them just lighty.. also, F22, was the first of its kind, battle proven, so its a fucking common sense to borow some of their design solutions, cut time and spending... Sovietsd and Americans did the same with Sabre and MiG15, they too were first of their kind, and they too didnt start from scrattch, they heavily drawn from NAZI designs, modifying them a bit. And made it. Sabre and MiG15 were so alike you hardly could tell them apart.

 

[Kamil_baku]

Why all the aircrafts whether chinese, Kawasaki Japaniese and Turkish 5th gen fighters having similarities or almost 90% close to F22 Raptor design?? Aren’t they design something different kn their own or this is the only responsibility of US Aero designers to design something which will be later use by rest of the world to build thr jets based on American designs??

It is more because of the stealth technology and the requirements...
1)All these jets you mentioned are designed to shoot down other jets in air to air fight. Thats why they cannot put the engine on the wings which will have more stress on wing and less maneuver which is very important unlike bombers.
2) All these jets wants to have 2 engine and not rounded body not to reflect radar beams, and also be able to stock missiles in it and at the same time no to have to wide body, which will create drag and slow the aircraft. Thats actually where americans made mistake. They didnt think that they will need that much maneuver(or simple they thought too smart and didnt put it in f35). because of the body of the aircraft is too wide, it created a lot of drag and made it slow unlike others only mention the engine power vs weight of jet, this is very important.
As you can check pictures above, Turkey made very thin aircraft, but longer, which will let it have less drag that f22 and f35.
on the other side, you can see the differences between german prototype ose and Turkish one. Turkish one is the real stealth jets nose. those rounded look nose of aircraft you can see in latest german prototype(probably they would update it in the future), wouldnt work.
On the other hand, the real differences will be thir radar, eo cameras(these jets still have heat signature and countries would love to take advantage of it.. but what if, they decide to attack you when its raining or snowing, they will have advantage there, that why you also need these aircrafts.
i made it long and already forgot what i mentioned what not.

 

[rajvoSa]

Here is the answer

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Yeah, sure, poster for failure.

 

[Agha Sher]

Here is the answer

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A 4.5 generation aircraft, which will get dominated in any encounter with pure 5 generation aircraft?

 

[rajvoSa]

A 4.5 generation aircraft, which will get dominated in any encounter with pure 5 generation aircraft?

I higly doubt its even on 4,5 level. Its fucking engines are 30 years old designes, for starters.