TF-X Turkish Fighter & Trainer Aircraft Projects

[Nurhak40]

Tfx much smaller

 

[Pax Ottomana]

Are F22 and TFX same size and weight class fighter? Or TFX smaller?

TFX is slightly smaller than the F-35, which is significantly smaller than the F-22.

 

[era_shield]

TFX is slightly smaller than the F-35, which is significantly smaller than the F-22.

The wing area is close to that of the F-22, and more than double that of the F-16, even though the size and weight are similar to an F-35. This thing is gonna be a beast.

I wonder if the engine specs are dry or wet thrust though. If dry, it implies they're going to use a RR engine because the EJ-2x0 doesn't fit with that spec.

 

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Anyone good at making size comparisons using official images and specs instead of fanmade ones; @TheMightyBender

 

[TheMightyBender]

Anyone good at making size comparisons using official images and specs instead of fanmade ones; @TheMightyBender

Here you go:
The updated size comparison of TFX with similar fighter jets around the world based on the newly reported dimensions by DefenceTurk. Note that TFX is almost identical to F-22 in length.
Btw I didn't have top view of TFX, so I used a picture of it's model that was showcased in IDEF. Hence the planform shape may not be completely accurate.

 

[Nurhak40]

Really tfx bigger the f35? I thought it was very small

 

[OguzSenturk]

I thought it was very small

Previous size information was fake obviously.

 

[era_shield]

Really tfx bigger the f35? I thought it was very small

The planform is old and no longer accurate. Although long, it will be slender for its length.

 

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It seems at all conditions, Eurojet offers %25-30 enhencement over Eurofighter engines which is equal to 25000/26000lb thrust each. That ratio equals more than an F-35 but less than F-22 in overall performance.

25% increased engine thrust would still keep the same diameter as EJ200, which means the weight of the engine would still be around 1000kg. While F-22 engine which has a larger diameter weighs in at 1800kg. Weight to thrust ratio Eurojet is offering is unbeatable. Though, EJ200 is based on RollsRoyce technology from 1980s. I would like to see what RollsRoyce is offering..

 

[YoungTurk01]

Thank you, I m just tired of people comparing TFX weight trust ratio with F 22. TFX lot smaller, so why you worrie trust ratio less then F22. I believe TFX would do just fine with these specs.

Thank you, I m just tired of people comparing TFX weight trust ratio with F 22. TFX lot smaller, so why you worrie trust ratio less then F22. I believe TFX would do just fine with these specs.

Thank you guys for quick post.

Thank you, I m just tired of people comparing TFX weight trust ratio with F 22. TFX lot smaller, so why you worrie trust ratio less then F22. I believe TFX would do just fine with these specs.


Thank you guys for quick post.

Do we have any airplane engineer in our group? I have quick question.

 

[TheMightyBender]

Thank you, I m just tired of people comparing TFX weight trust ratio with F 22. TFX lot smaller, so why you worrie trust ratio less then F22. I believe TFX would do just fine with these specs.


Thank you guys for quick post.


Do we have any airplane engineer in our group? I have quick question.

I am one, go on, I will try to answer your question.

 

[Pax Ottomana]

Is there any other/reliable source regarding TFX's physical specs other than "DefenceTurk"?

 

[YoungTurk01]

I am one, go on, I will try to answer your question.

Why fighter jets air intakes always under the body? It s take my attention that new stealth fighters have internal weapon bay under the belly. My point is if those inlets move it to top of air plane. It should provide more area for internal weapons.
What’s your opinion and I dont how it will effect the air planes aerodynamics.

Why fighter jets air intakes always under the body? It s take my attention that new stealth fighters have internal weapon bay under the belly. My point is if those inlets move it to top of air plane. It should provide more area for internal weapons.
What’s your opinion and I dont how it will effect the air planes aerodynamics.

Thanks

Why fighter jets air intakes always under the body? It s take my attention that new stealth fighters have internal weapon bay under the belly. My point is if those inlets move it to top of air plane. It should provide more area for internal weapons.
What’s your opinion and I dont how it will effect the air planes aerodynamics.


Thanks

Just thinking, also it may reduce the radar signature too

 

[TheMightyBender]

Why fighter jets air intakes always under the body? It s take my attention that new stealth fighters have internal weapon bay under the belly. My point is if those inlets move it to top of air plane. It should provide more area for internal weapons.
What’s your opinion and I dont how it will effect the air planes aerodynamics.


Thanks

Bro the location of the inlet depends on many factors including the number of inlets.
If you have two inlets, you have to put them to the sides of the fuselage, there is no other feasible position for them. Examples: F-22, F-15

However if you have only one inlet, you can either put it underneath, or on top of the fuselage. For example, the F-16 has only one inlet and it is underneath the fuselage:

But you will never see a fighter that is similar to the F-16 but has an inlet on top of the fuselage. This is mainly because of Aerodynamics. The engine needs a VERY clean and undisturbed air. Since in positive angles of attack [nose up] the air above the fuselage will be turbulent, and that seriously affects the performance of the engine.
Another minor issue with inlets on top of the fuselage is that it may interfere with pilot's ejection in urgent scenarios.

 

[UkroTurk]

25% increased engine thrust would still keep the same diameter as EJ200, which means the weight of the engine would still be around 1000kg. While F-22 engine which has a larger diameter weighs in at 1800kg. Weight to thrust ratio Eurojet is offering is unbeatable. Though, EJ200 is based on RollsRoyce technology from 1980s. I would like to see what RollsRoyce is offering..

What about fuel consumption, gaining more power, you will lose more fuel consequently lose your range?