Terrorist takes Australian cafe customers hostage:

[Falcon29]

It seems to me that you are not even offended that this guy is using the Shahada in this deed of his. Do you not think that he has disrespected Islam by using that flag?

Offended over what? I think that he is a clown and I have no tolerance for clowns. If it is a lone incident of course.

Let's take it where it belongs - Islamic organizations should hold a protest right now - Somewhere in Sydney...solidarity with the hostages and a Fuk sign aimed towards the bustardz.

The Grand Mufti of Australia, Professor Ibrahim Abu Mohamed, says he and the Australian National Imams Council are devastated by the incident in Martin Place.

"[We] condemn this criminal act unequivocally and reiterate that such actions are denounced in part and in whole in Islam," he said in a statement.

"We along the wide Australian society await the results of the investigation about the identity of the perpetrators and their underlying motivations behind this criminal act.

"The Grand Mufti and the Muslim community express their full support and solidarity with the victims and their families and aspire to a peaceful resolve to this calamity."

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[Chinese-Dragon]

Let's take it where it belongs - Islamic organizations should hold a protest right now - Somewhere in Sydney...solidarity with the hostages and a Fuk sign aimed towards the bustardz.

That sounds serious.

 

[Zarvan]

The Quran is meant to convince the terrorists and people supporting them - not the world. For the world, well, I can't do anything but condemn and ask for forgiveness on behalf of the 'Muslims' who commit these atrocities. You tell me, what more can I, a lone, normal person do?


I know for a fact that those innocents trapped inside a shop are not responsible for any partnership with the USA or whatever.
DO NOT try to justify this transgression. It doesn't matter what USA did. It is our responsibility to take care of our mess.WE give USA a reason and then cry over it.

Stop defending master USA they started it and were doing this for decades and now war is reaching there mainlands

 

[WaLeEdK2]

The problem with many Muslims is that they are not educated. Where are the scholars of Islam? They're all sleeping while the Muslims are believing false ideologies. Islamic scholarship is at its weakest in it's history.

 

[Zarvan]

The Quran is meant to convince the terrorists and people supporting them - not the world. For the world, well, I can't do anything but condemn and ask for forgiveness on behalf of the 'Muslims' who commit these atrocities. You tell me, what more can I, a lone, normal person do?


I know for a fact that those innocents trapped inside a shop are not responsible for any partnership with the USA or whatever.
DO NOT try to justify this transgression. It doesn't matter what USA did. It is our responsibility to take care of our mess.WE give USA a reason and then cry over it.

Stop defending master USA they started it and were doing this for decades and now war is reaching there mainlands

 

[SekrutYakhni]

Offended over what? I think that he is a clown and I have no tolerance for clowns. If it is a lone incident of course.



The Grand Mufti of Australia, Professor Ibrahim Abu Mohamed, says he and the Australian National Imams Council are devastated by the incident in Martin Place.

"[We] condemn this criminal act unequivocally and reiterate that such actions are denounced in part and in whole in Islam," he said in a statement.

"We along the wide Australian society await the results of the investigation about the identity of the perpetrators and their underlying motivations behind this criminal act.

"The Grand Mufti and the Muslim community express their full support and solidarity with the victims and their families and aspire to a peaceful resolve to this calamity."

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Muftis are not playing the right tunes. You have to understand - Time has passed from mere condemnations.

Muslim leaders must ACT and be present. Powerful images send the right message. Condemning is easy and happens.

Muslims need to build pressure within their own ranks to get rid of the jihadis.


Muslims must pull the strings. Show massive support while being present on the street.


What do we deamand from the American people when it comes to their corrupt elite? Words are not enough. Take a STAND!

What should they expect from us?

Stop defending master USA they started it and were doing this for decades and now war is reaching there mainlands

I agree. Even few days ago Americans officially admitted of supporting the rebels. But we have to win this perception war. Hit America right inside - Hit with showing street power against ISIS. Hit against jihadis by protests.

Once you have traction - be reasonable. Tell Americans we don't support these Jihadis but people - Your govt arms them!!!

We have our own faults but your govt is making it worse!

Play the right tunes guys!!!


Show solidarity with the Australians on the street!!!!

 

[Falcon29]

Muftis are not playing the right tunes. You have to understand - Time has passed from mere condemnations.

Muslim leaders must ACT and be present. Powerful images send the right message. Condemning is easy and happens.

Muslims need to build pressure within their own ranks to get rid of the jihadis.


Muslims must pull the strings. Show massive support while being present on the street.


What do we deamand from the American people when it comes to their corrupt elite? Words are not enough. Take a STAND!

What should they expect from us?

We don't know results of investigation yet or motive of individual. Or if it is more than one person. Let's wait and see results. But its hard dealing with ignorance. Many Muslims are uneducated. Majority of people in general only comprehend emotional approach and logical approach. We can't deal with them in a logical manner. What is needed is the emotional manner. For example, whenever you hear an issue about shootings in the United States which ignite racial tensions. Most people will tweet something basic, even a photo and sympathize with victim even when they don't have facts. For us logical people, we factor in facts, law, etc....

We need the non-complex people who are good at garnering sympathy to play this role with non-complex Muslims.

 

[TankMan]

Stop defending master USA they started it and were doing this for decades and now war is reaching there mainlands

Bullsh!t. I have been as vocal as anyone against the US. But this has nothing to do with the US. Twenty Australians in a coffee shop are not responsible for the US's crimes. You should stop defending your master Mullahs who are destroying Islam. This kind of 'war' on 'their mainlands' will destroy Muslims and Islam before it destroys the US - and fools like you are pushing us towards destruction!

''They started it'' my a$$, DID THOSE INNOCENTS IN A GOD DAMN COFFEE SHOP START IT??!!!! F*cking read your own posts before letting them loose and destroying the image of the entirety of Muslims. Sure, we have our rights, we should stand up against the US, but that doesn't mean go around murdering innocents because they happen to be living in certain countries.

And these same people you are defending - the extremists- have murdered thousands of Muslims. Now will you say those Muslims were also with the US? Will you say 'they started it' too?

 

[SekrutYakhni]

We don't know results of investigation yet or motive of individual. Or if it is more than one person. Let's wait and see results. But its hard dealing with ignorance. Many Muslims are uneducated. Majority of people in general only comprehend emotional approach and logical approach. We can't deal with them in a logical manner. What is needed is the emotional manner. For example, whenever you hear an issue about shootings in the United States which ignite racial tensions. Most people will tweet something basic, even a photo and sympathize with victim even when they don't have facts. For us logical people, we factor in facts, law, etc....

We need the non-complex people who are good at garnering sympathy to play this role with non-complex Muslims.

You can't assume that visuals hold no power. You can't just say showing practical support to the people (Australians) will go in vein.

They demand us to be more open. A high school kid is not browsing what the Imam has said. They are more interested in seeing powerful visuals.

Lets take it to the streets and disown Jihad babes.

 

[Gunsnroses]

I hate them and alike, I want them dead at their soonest. They fcukin bulldozed us, our image, our religion. Aussies! fcuk them please!

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

great ...more morns

 

[SekrutYakhni]

I hate them and alike, I want them dead at their soonest. They fcukin bulldozed us, our image, our religion. Aussies! fcuk them please!

Muslims have to be creative. We have to become more active and hold street protests against these filthy jihad babes!

Our people in the respective home countries are being killed (by jihadis/others) because WE the people living abroad have MISERABLY failed to raise awareness!!!!

 

[Gunsnroses]

Muslims have to be creative. We have to become more active and hold street protests against these filthy jihad babes!

Am always up for it and trust me, am doing it in my capacity but seriously am pissed off this time.

 

[Crypto]

Some hostages just released

 

[Falcon29]

Some hostages just released

Released or escaped?