Terrorist attack on Ahmadi mosques in Lahore

[forcetrip]

Your question is answered by what can we bad muslims do about it when all the good muslims sit in front of their computers and get pissed. The other half of the good muslims go on the streets and burn their neighbourhood infrastructure. So my question to you was, as a good muslim which of the two would you do? or do you by any chance have a better solution than angry letter writing. I hope there wernt too many questions this time.

 

[razgriz19]

Let's declare these terrorists as Kafirs, who is with me, start work on the law.

they already are! islam forbids to kill innocent people.....even if they r enemy!

 

[T-Faz]

they already are! islam forbids to kill innocent people.....even if they r enemy!

I meant officially, pass a law, saying that these groups and these certain members are non muslims and in alliance with Mossad and Raw.

The work will be done.

 

[Tiger Prowling]

they already are! islam forbids to kill innocent people.....even if they r enemy!

Only GOD can decide who is kafir or not but u r right killing innocent is totally unislamic.......even enemy.

 

[Sinnerman108]

I meant officially, pass a law, saying that these groups and these certain members are non muslims and in alliance with Mossad and Raw.

The work will be done.

FACT check.

The constitution of Pakistan does not accept AHMADI, LAHORI group, QADYANI as muslims.

their place of worship is not mosque and can not be called mosque.

They are categorized as non muslims.

Do u know who Mufti Mahmood was ?

Amazing how insensitive and ill informed people and just make remarks about some thing which was achieved after such a struggle !

 

[forcetrip]

I meant officially, pass a law, saying that these groups and these certain members are non muslims and in alliance with Mossad and Raw.

The work will be done.

I think that will be a great step in the right direction. We need concrete steps to stop this. with what reason can people defend them as muslims is beyond me.

 

[KSRaj]

Condolences to the dead and strength to their family.

May the cowards who commited this crime suffer for the rest of their worthless lives!

 

[T-Faz]

Religious parties condemn attacks on Ahmedis

LAHORE: Jamiat Ulema-e-Pakistan Noorani (JUP-N) and the World Pasban Khatam-e-Nabuwat (WPKN), known to be two of those parties who are most actively working against Ahmedis in the country, and several religious organisations have condemned the terrorist attacks targeting Ahmedis on Friday. The JUP-N started a Khatam-e-Nabuwat movement against Ahmedis in the 70s and later succeeded in having them declared “non-Muslims” through parliament in 1974 and the WPKN, established 31 years ago, had launched various demonstrations against Ahmedis. However, JUP-N Secretary General Qari Zawar Bahadar told Daily Times that although the organization had differences with Ahmedis, they did not condone terrorism and strongly condemned the attacks on Ahmedis in the provincial metropolis. Zawar said that the attacks on Ahmedis were a conspiracy launched by international agencies to divert the world’s attention from Muslim protests on the Facebook issue. “American, Indian and Israeli agencies may be involved in these attacks in a bid to increase the propaganda against Muslims,” he said. WPKN convener Allama Mumtaz Awan told Daily Times that he condemned the attacks against Ahmedis, saying that such acts of terror were against Islamic teachings. “Although we ran a movement against Ahmedis, we have never crossed any limits because we believe in the rights of all communities living in the country,” he said. To a question, he said that three organizations, including the International Khatam-e-Nabuwat Movement (IKNM), Almi Majlis Tahafuz-e-Khatam-e-Nabuwat (AMTKN) and his own group were actively playing their role for defending the ideology of Khatam-e-Nabuwat, adding that the attacks on Ahmedis were a conspiracy against Pakistan. Jamaat-ud-Dawa Pakistan (JDP)’s spokesperson Yahya Mujahid, condemning the attacks, said the Punjabi Taliban were responsible. Also, Jamaat-e-Islami (JI) chief Syed Munawar Hasan condemned the attacks in the provincial capital and termed it a conspiracy on the Youm-e-Takbeer to trigger civil war and justify continued US interference in the country. Separately, Pakistan Tehreek-e-Jaferia (PTJ) Punjab President Tanveer Naqvi told Daily Times that he condemned every form of terrorism, adding that Friday’s attacks were a conspiracy to defame Muslims as terrorists.

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2010%5C05%5C29%5Cstory_29-5-2010_pg13_6

The conspiracies are on but at least they condemned like all others.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

FACT check.

The constitution of Pakistan does not accept AHMADI, LAHORI group, QADYANI as muslims.

their place of worship is not mosque and can not be called mosque.

They are categorized as non muslims.

Do u know who Mufti Mahmood was ?

Amazing how insensitive and ill informed people and just make remarks about some thing which was achieved after such a struggle !

Just because slavery and segregation were legal and accepted by the majority did not make those policies/laws/behavior of society acceptable and moral.

Similarly, just because some bigots managed to pass laws openly discriminating against a community of millions, violating their rights and freedoms, does not mean those laws have any moral or ethical standing.

The laws against Ahmadis are based on hatred, prejudice, bigotry and intolerance. They violate very fundamental human rights of millions - they are everything Islam tells us not to do, and yet so many here are proudly waving those laws as if it is some great achievement to be respected.

The only people who can have 'respect' for laws like these are barbarians and tyrants like Hitler and Stalin. Then again, there was an article on how butchers of humanity like Hitler are actually popular in South Asia, Pakistan especially ...

 

[T-Faz]

Just because slavery and segregation were legal and accepted by the majority did not make those policies/laws/behavior of society acceptable and moral.

Similarly, just because some bigots managed to pass laws openly discriminating against a community of millions, violating their rights and freedoms, does not mean those laws have any moral or ethical standing.

The laws against Ahmadis are based on hatred, prejudice, bigotry and intolerance. They violate very fundamental human rights of millions - they are everything Islam tells us not to do, and yet so many here are proudly waving those laws as if it is some great achievement to be respected.

The only people who can have 'respect' for laws like these are barbarians and tyrants like Hitler and Stalin. Then again, there was an article on how butchers of humanity like Hitler are actually popular in South Asia, Pakistan especially ...

No need to reply to him, just look at the picture he has on his Profile Page.

I saw that and thought that it would be best to ignore this guy.

He is one of Zia's children.

 

[alibaz]

I dont have any obligation to tell you about my faith and it is not necessary for you to know who i am. They might be distorting the basics of islam, what is your problem with it? they know and allah knows, it is them who will answer in the day of qayama not you and me. as long as you do what you think is right then you shouldnt be concerned about other people's actions which is entirely upto them. live your life and let the others live their lives.

by the way, i am not ignorant, but i think rationally.

I think no one asked you faith sir

 

[mikkix]

Have been following the developments and without adding any fuel to fire, please keep India out of it. If your feel comfort in believing that Indins took longer / and are worse at countering terrorist attacks, I can assure you the relatives of Shaheeds and victims of the mosque attack wont be sharing your feeling and reflects very poorly on you.

Terrorism and such cowardly attacks have ZERO acceptance and your Police / security forces did very well to diffuse the situation in good time. Rest I'll save for some other threads.

Sir I totally agree with you..
Hey pakistani bros,,,,,cmon yar why this thread becomes india bashing,,,plz dont do that.....
allah talla us waqt tak kisi ki madad nahi karta jab tak wo apni madad khud na kare...
100 people dead whether what sects they belongs to....
If all muslims dont believe them as a a muslim ok thats anotherthing but can someone tell me
kia Hazrat Umer k daur mai koi christian or jews ko kisi ne nuksan pohchaya...Nahi then why we,,, i agree terrorists involved in it but we have to do some condolences what ever the sects they belong to as a muslam....
What we are doing now I can explain it...
jab allah talla ne jews ko kaha k qurbani karo to wo in chakar ma par gaye k white bakra qurban karen ya black,,,
we r doing same,,,,,ahmadis are muslim or not,,,,forget it
its bad to attack someone in pakistan to minorities subjected to what sects and religion..

 

[mikkix]

Beta, get back to your books; it'll do you good.
God Bless you, Beta.

I admired your patience....

 

[Sinnerman108]

No need to reply to him, just look at the picture he has on his Profile Page.

I saw that and thought that it would be best to ignore this guy.

He is one of Zia's children.

Amazing, how one can stoop !

by same principles which are trying to use in your arguments,
ask the people of Pakistan, if they are going to accept QADYANI as muslims.

Let the will of people rule shall we ?

AGNOSTIC:
what you are referring to (Slavery, segregation, apartheid) are social phenomenon,
they do not have theological grounds.

Its a simple matter of principle, those who accept the prophet and the end of all prophet hood and those who don't.

 

[FreekiN]

Amazing, how one can stoop !

by same principles which are trying to use in your arguments,
ask the people of Pakistan, if they are going to accept QADYANI as muslims.

Let the will of people rule shall we ?

AGNOSTIC:
what you are referring to (Slavery, segregation, apartheid) are social phenomenon,
they do not have theological grounds.

Its a simple matter of principle, those who accept the prophet and the end of all prophet hood and those who don't.

So you support these killings?

You should be ashamed of yourself.

Over 100 people died in this terrorist attack and you're whining about how they "are not Muslims."

Doesn't matter what religion they are. The problem is that they are now dead due to the fact that your ideology still exists.

THEY ARE PAKISTANI.