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Terror boat: The smuggling theory doesn't hold much weight

Smuggling story was never credible to begin with. Smugglers are known to be coast-huggers. Why would a petty smuggler venture out to 200 Km. out of coastline in that boat..? that to smuggle not so big quantity of Wine/Diesel..?

This spin in my opinion was planted to taste waters and see how new govt. responds. More such dubious articles will be published to put Modi Govt. in trouble. Hate for a person has increased so much that the usual suspects have now started supporting anti-India policy.
 
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There are two parameters to check about the source of the boat-

What does the country specialize in?
What's their primary export?

answer to both questions is Terrorism !

why are you asking such simple GK questions ....:D

..even kids know answers to this question ...:P
 
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The boat story is coming from a nation:

Whose Politician's and media are commonly known for....???
Who Armed forces specialize in killing...????(Hint:medals and prizes,Another hint:False and made up encounters :lol:)
That makes me wonder - Have you watched - The Fourth Kind(of encounter)?
 
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All the story is based on that persons set boat on fire or blow it up themselves, which is claim of Indian coast guards and not credible because of fake encounters history of Indian forces. Writer should know that the weapons or anything of that sort could have been disposed of with same method he is suggesting that drugs and other things can be disposed. And oil smuggled from Iran is much cheaper than India/Pakistan and it's not difficult to find smuggled oil in Baluchistan.
 
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was it indian express????

yup..but both Indian Express and New Indian Express loves to contradict proper news to increase their sale..Like,everytime we testfire a missile,New Indian Express publish it as failure,after day or two,they publish it as success. there is no shortage of morons in India either :D

every claim from the Indian media or their armed forces should be evaluated by the mods here first.....most belong to the stupid and funny section

you're comparing Lemons with oranges.that boat was captured by pirates and they fired upon other ships.it is well known that Pirates often use Captured boats to attack other boats,and that boat is called "Mother Ship",which is either Dhow or a Fishing Trowller.nobody could possibly know if there was captured seamen onboard,unless we'd mount it.
 
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yup..but both Indian Express and New Indian Express loves to contradict proper news to increase their sale..Like,everytime we testfire a missile,New Indian Express publish it as failure,after day or two,they publish it as success. there is no shortage of morons in India either :D



you're comparing Lemons with oranges.that boat was captured by pirates and they fired upon other ships.it is well known that Pirates often use Captured boats to attack other boats,and that boat is called "Mother Ship",which is either Dhow or a Fishing Trowller.nobody could possibly know if there was captured seamen onboard,unless we'd mount it.
How could a fishing trawler present a threat to a frigate???
"The only surviving sailor in the crew of 15, a Cambodian who spent six days adrift, is recovering in a hospital in Yemen. There is no word on any of the other crew"
good job killing 14 innocent people
 
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Pakistan terror boat: The smuggling theory doesn't hold much weight
Do we believe the doubts raised by some newspapers, all based on unnamed sources, or the official version on the Pakistani “terror boat” put out by the defence ministry?

The latter seems more credible, for reasons one will explain later.
First, the known facts. Some time past the midnight of 31 December, the Indian Coast Guard chased a suspicious Pakistani boat that could have been carrying contraband or explosives, or both, some 365 km off the Gujarat coast. At some point during the chase, persons manning the boat either set fire to it to avoid being caught red-handed, or blew it up with the explosives on board. Both actions suggest that the persons on board preferred death to being caught by the Indian Coast Guard.

The day after the sinking of the boat, now identified as Qalandar, The Indian Express claimed that “new evidence has begun to emerge that those on board might have been small-time liquor and diesel smugglers, ferrying bootleg cargo from the port of Gwadar to other fishing boats which were to have carried it into Karachi’s Keti Bandar harbour.” Today (5 January), the newspaper speaks about the boat as having been used often to carry drugs from Balochistan.

This analysis questions some of the claims made by newspapers debunking the government's version, but logic is on the latter's side. For example, one cannot rule out drug smuggling as a possibility, but drugs are the easiest things to dispose of. All you have to do is chuck it down the side of the boat and pretend innocence. You don’t have to set fire to the boat – unless the allegation is that the Coast Guard did it. Also, if the Pakistani authorities knew all about the drug ring, as the story claims, it stands to reason that the drug mafia was allowed to operate for unstated reasons. What were those reasons? Were the drug traders useful to the government in some way?

Even allegations of smuggling of liquor and diesel make no sense at all. Gujarat has prohibition, but there is no shortage of liquor for those who want it in the state or anywhere else in the country. So trying to bring in liquor seems unlikely. In any case, liquor crates should be easy to dispose of at sea, too.

What about diesel smuggling? This is the most ridiculous theory of them all. To make smuggling profitable, there must be a significant difference between the prices of diesel available in India and Pakistan.

But is this the case? When we last checked, the price of diesel in Ahmedabad/Gujarat was around Rs 56.26 a litre. In Pakistan it was around 86.23 (Pakistani rupees, that is).

The Pakistani rupee is much cheaper than the Indian rupee, and trades at Rs 100.80 against the US dollar. The Indian rupee is at Rs 63.33 today (5 January).

This means the Indian rupee is worth 1.59 Pakistani rupees.

Now do a simple conversion of the price of diesel in Gujarat and in Pakistan and this is what you get: in Pakistani rupees, the Gujarat diesel price of Rs 56.26 would be Rs 89.45. Minus the domestic price of Pakistani diesel from the Gujarat price, and you get Rs 3.22. In Indian rupees, the differential would be even lower.


Are we saying that Pakistani fishermen will be risking life and limb for a paltry Rs 3 differential in Gujarat and Pakistani diesel prices? Smuggling may have made sense when Indian diesel was underpriced due to UPA price subsidies, but under NDA, diesel prices are sold above cost, and now also include additional excise. Whatever incentive for smuggling diesel was there before is now gone.

A boat carrying drugs deserves to be at the bottom of the sea if it did not allow the Coast Guard to capture it.

A boat carrying liquor or diesel is improbable.

Where does that leave us? The smuggling theory does not lead us anywhere. We need to believe the Coast Guard version more than that of newspapers.
Pakistan terror boat: The smuggling theory doesn't hold much weight - Firstpost
I was amazed by diesel theory. Outside the IC engine, it is not possible to light it on fire easily (if you are not using a blow torch or some other high temp source). In any way, CG said spectroscopic analysis showed explosives on the boat...
 
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How could a fishing trawler present a threat to a frigate???
"The only surviving sailor in the crew of 15, a Cambodian who spent six days adrift, is recovering in a hospital in Yemen. There is no word on any of the other crew"
good job killing 14 innocent people

it can if they fire an RPG..and they use it frequently.

Somali Pirates Attack US Cruiser | Military.com

plus,several times,various navies either blew pirate boats or fired upon them.there was no way to know if it had captured seamen onboard.its just like you fired upon a terrorist and killed a civilian unknowingly.
 
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it can if they fire an RPG..and they use it frequently.

Somali Pirates Attack US Cruiser | Military.com

plus,several times,various navies either blew pirate boats or fired upon them.there was no way to know if it had captured seamen onboard.its just like you fired upon a terrorist and killed a civilian unknowingly.
The difference is these were open boats one could clearly see even in the video all on board were pirates
If you don't know or are not sure about the situation inside the boat better to maintain a safe distance while keeping them in observation
The RPG has a effective range of max. 500 meters
Those 14 innocent lives could have been saved had it not been the trigger happiness of the Indian Navy
 
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All this nonsense is happening because of inability or stupidity of few idiots........ They should have waited for some time and get a clear idea before releasing the news, as the boat is already down there is no way the news gonna make difference.... They should have waited for the clear picture of the entire incident and should have released the news once they have every bit of it......
 
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Did anyone see Times Now today. Arnab took congress to the cleaners for suspecting the #terrorboat story
 
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This is nonsense all around.

So lets assume that the boat was laden with terrorists. Do we really believe, even for a second, that upon getting cautioned by the Coast Guard to stop, these people, who supposedly are out to conduct a terrorist attack - a one way proposition - would get scared and commit collective suicide by blowing their boat up? How many times have we seen Fidayeen attacks? They wait till the security forces close in, in this case they would have allowed the Coast Guard to board, and then blown themselves up if they had explosives as their purpose in life would be to inflict casualties. After all, as per the Indian claims, that is what they set out to do. Where were the VBSS units to check on the boat?

There is a significant possibility that the Indian Coast Guard shot up the trawler not knowing what was inside or what the occupants were carrying and probably hit the fuel storage resulting in the destruction of the vessel and its occupants. If we are to believe a claim that this was a terror boat, equal weight needs to be given to the possibility that the ICG were too trigger happy and blundered here. Now that the truth of the matter is somewhere at the bottom of the Arabian sea, we obviously will never know the real deal.
 
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We can ascertain one point, that those who were in the boat were Pakistanis. The fishermen's association in Porbandar have all their boats and men accounted for.

Now, if that is the case, then why haven't the families of those men not turned yet ?
 
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This is nonsense all around.

Agreed.....
So lets assume that the boat was laden with terrorists. Do we really believe, even for a second, that upon getting cautioned by the Coast Guard to stop, these people, who supposedly are out to conduct a terrorist attack - a one way proposition - would get scared and commit collective suicide by blowing their boat up? How many times have we seen Fidayeen attacks? They wait till the security forces close in, in this case they would have allowed the Coast Guard to board, and then blown themselves up if they had explosives as their purpose in life would be to inflict casualties. After all, as per the Indian claims, that is what they set out to do. Where were the VBSS units to check on the boat?
May be you are right, But then there can also be another side of it.... If this alleged terrorists were not expected to be caught? or they were not trained or briefed on a situation like this.... Or may be their idea was to destroy the evidence rather than attacking the ICG ship (that was not their mission anyway), Last time when we got a boat we did get enough evidence.......



There is a significant possibility that the Indian Coast Guard shot up the trawler not knowing what was inside or what the occupants were carrying and probably hit the fuel storage resulting in the destruction of the vessel and its occupants. If we are to believe a claim that this was a terror boat, equal weight needs to be given to the possibility that the ICG were too trigger happy and blundered here. Now that the truth of the matter is somewhere at the bottom of the Arabian sea, we obviously will never know the real deal.

If ICG made a mistake, then they would have not released the info in first place...... this would not have been the first time some one fired wrongly at a fishing boat???? Who would have come to know about the existence of this boat if ICG did not disclose???? They could have easily pushed under the carpet.... Since it happened in sea no one would ever come to know......
But then i agree the truth is under the bottom of the arabian sea.....

We can ascertain one point, that those who were in the boat were Pakistanis. The fishermen's association in Porbandar have all their boats and men accounted for.

Now, if that is the case, then why haven't the families of those men not turned yet ?

this was one question i had in my mind....there are 4 guys who got killed, but where were they from? who are they? why no families complained on this?
 
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