Tejas team to put 'best ever' aerobatics in Bahrain

[HRK]

@Water Car Engineer I have reversed that negative rating as It have served its purpose .... but again don't get yourself engage in troll wars ....

 

[Windjammer]

I am getting at the people that keeping talking how homemade LCA isn't, compared to JF.

Please tell me, is France moving an assembly line to India for LCA, jigs and all? Or does India need help fabricating it fuselage from anyone, at any time? So let's not talk about what's more homemade.

Some of you guys love to use European consultancy to bash the program. Yet, China used Russia's MIG for this program as well. What did you do if the senior partner in the program hired help?

Do you have an industry to produce some of the things LCA needs to import? Do you even have the R&D budget or culture for that?

Firstly the pre-fix JF breaks any claims or your accusation, it's a joint fighter hence there's no question of it being called indigenously a Pakistani product, however it's you people who after getting all the in put from various sources still come on PDF chest thumping on the ingenuity claims, i provided a link from an Indian source to bust the bubble.
As for the manufacturing plant, if China shipped it to Pakistan, India didn't exactly built one from scratch either, either you people are too ignorant or simply thrive in oblivion.... forget the post 47 era or the 60s, just go back to 80s and find out what happened to Northrop's plant after the company failed to secure any orders for their Tigershark.

Do not embarass Windy.

He will come back with response JF17, 5 years back, 50k sorties. Nothing more. I have no idea if they have IOC, FOC practises at all.
JF17 conducted all kind of weapon test after induction. We are doing it before induction.

So after some 20 odd years, Tejas pilot pulls 8g and it becomes breaking news but 50k sorties land mark by JF-17 is hard for you to swallow.
You people through obsession behave like headless Chicken, on one side you rant that JF-17 is a Chinese product and then your absent mind wonders if we even carried out any of the likes FOC.... get out of this ''I love me'' mentality, when you induct a weapon to last you 40 or 50 years and one day your freedom may depend on it, then you don't cut corners.

 

[Counterpunch]

Personally I would like Tejas to perform and perform well. This will only give more challenge to the JF-17 team in Pakistan.
With far superior other jets in Indian inventory, Pakistan of course would care less for the actual threat from Tejas in times of conflict. It's success will bode well for the kind of race we should have in the subcontinent

 

[Tshering22]

Putting Tejas through its intended rigours will clear all doubts once and for all. It was about time that the aircraft did these things in public display rather than in remote defence airspaces.

 

[Rajaraja Chola]

So after some 20 odd years, Tejas pilot pulls 8g and it becomes breaking news but 50k sorties land mark by JF-17 is hard for you to swallow.
You people through obsession behave like headless Chicken, on one side you rant that JF-17 is a Chinese product and then your absent mind wonders if we even carried out any of the likes FOC.... get out of this ''I love me'' mentality, when you induct a weapon to last you 40 or 50 years and one day your freedom may depend on it, then you don't cut corners.

Do you have any idea the development Frames for Rafale or Eurofighter? The First Money for Tejas was sanctioned from 1993, which isnt bad either. And we were hit by sanctions after 1998.
Considering the scenarios, what we have produced is not just a fighter. But an aerospace industry.
JF17 being inducted is a good thing. But why the comparison? There is something called inhouse development. Members like you had the audacity to call Tejas Foreign, which was designed, integrated, tested completely in India. For your info, JFIII, is being developed by China, in China. If Pakistan can call that indigenous, God change its meaning.

 

[The Eagle]

Tejas is not just 2 generation ahead of JFT but it is 3 generation ahead as started 20 years ago, 80s gen, 90s gen then entering into 21st century.

 

[Chanakyaa]

I dont understand the Paradox :

1. Since LCA is a Foreign Maal, why do we even remotely compare it with the "indegenious" Thunder ?

and

2. If we do need to compare something "Indegiously Assembled" why not compare Mig 21s / Jaguars / MKIs ( Fully Manufactured in India <including Engines> , Not just assembled ) with JF17 ?

moreover,

Fact : LCA is NOT the First Indian Jet, Its the Second.

 

[Oracle 33]

Tejas is custom built using Indian skills in composites and fly by wire technology

 

[shree835]

The writer doesnt know about the definitions of Generations in aircrafts, Thye are just biased Indian Dumb asss

How can you call a full metal body Aircraft a fourth gen Aircraft....????

 

[Nasir Jamil]

Why aren't you letting jf17 fly in the show?
You do have 66 samples , unlike LCA

Because your Teja is of no match to JF-17, Kids need to Learn more, Bring something better then ask for a Match

 

[sathya]

Because your Teja is of no match to JF-17, Kids need to Learn more, Bring something better then ask for a Match

If you didn't consider LCA as a match , you could have thought typhoon as ur competition and came for the show

 

[Alpha Fighter]

Tejas is not just 2 generation ahead of JFT but it is 3 generation ahead as started 20 years ago, 80s gen, 90s gen then entering into 21st century.

you have any iota of ideas what is 2 , 3Gen plane means at all ?

 

[The Eagle]

you have any iota of ideas what is 2 , 3Gen plane means at all ?

You did not get the idea behind my post, i would request you to emphasis on generations by era not by tech.

 

[Nasir Jamil]

If you didn't consider LCA as a match , you could have thought typhoon as ur competition and came for the show

Eating apple saying banana

 

[desimorty]

exactly so whats wrong in it .... no one sensible enough ever deny this

Source: https://defence.pk/threads/tejas-te...batics-in-bahrain.417230/page-6#ixzz3yU3uuSpO[/QUOTE
You lose product support!
If the PLAAF don't want the FC-1, the PAF are the only buyers, they aren't going to get a lot for their money. And they aren't! PAF already has issues with the JF-17s payload and combat load. But they were forced into it. Originally the PAF wanted the Gripen! However, someone inside Pakistan decided to take bribe from China. The Chinese are learning and transferring tech of J-7 to Pakistan. Had you bought into the Gripen, you would have more technical experience with newer technology and save on operating costs. Uptime of the JF-17 is probabiliy really bad given the Mig-29 with its 2 engines was designed to keep in mind a short life span of engines. Its a bad project. The Mig-21 had its day. But its outdated in terms of low speed handling and agility.
The RnD for the JF-17 is mostly done by China and still being done by China. At their own leisure and pace. The IAF have a similar deal with MKI Flankers except its far ahead in the technology and generation gap.
If PAF was serious about a indigenous aerospace complex they would have started off with real projects no matter how hard with longer growth potential.
MKI assembly will soon turn into a MKI upgrade line and than a T-50MKI line.
The JF-17 like I said, Was a J-7 line. Now what? Electronics are always being updated but the engine will always limit the growth of the aircraft. Ontop of this, Russia supplies the engines. And the Russians are worse than americans when the cut you off from the supply.
Not mentioned is the fact Russians have NO LOVE for Pakistanis. They play with the Indians and are letting you into the new BRIC club on a leash.
IMO going for an Gripen would have been a better idea since America isn't pressured by India as much as Russia is.
So if Pakistan doesn't play ball, no more RD-93s.