Tejas, once combat-ready, will be able to outgun the JF-17

[baqai]

@Windjammer the article is right considering by the time TEJAS would be combat ready JF-17 would most probably be stored as history museum monument .... pretty easy to combat such aircrafts on display if you ask me

 

[bdslph]

tejas has a long way to go
plus by 2018 JF17 blk 3 will be released but new Jf17 modification will take place even a modified version

 

[PWFI]

I read some where DSI stands for Damn Stupid Indians......kia yea sahi hey guru bahi.

Over kill

 

[LonE_WolF]

well lets see it from another perspective. These "defence analysts" are actually agreeing that JF-17 (in current form) is superior to Tejas (in current form). And the MK-1A will be superior to thunder but by that time Jf-17 block 3 will be in production which is not taken into consideration by these analysts i think.

 

[cerberus]

well lets see it from another perspective. These "defence analysts" are actually agreeing that JF-17 (in current form) is superior to Tejas (in current form). And the MK-1A will be superior to thunder but by that time Jf-17 block 3 will be in production which is not taken into consideration by these analysts i think.

Analyst is talking of FOC here

 

[The Sandman]

 

[Green Angel]

TEJAS & COMBAT READY....... .

 

[Shariq786]

i guess when your enemy is talking too much about your wepons and leaving no oppostunity go waste to degrade it or make fun of it then i guess it means your wepon is realli scaring the hell owt of them

and despite there best efforts they are unable to make a credible counter wepon for it ....

man tejas is realli good cause the main objective of any wepon is to scare your enemy in making a mistake to attack you and tejas has already doing it without even getting FOC....

i wonder what will happen when teajs actualli gets AESA radar and AESA based EW suite and a few more wepons

if once you read the Article which he posted you wouldn't have said what you just said he just posted what you defense minister said so does that means that the thing GOES other way around

 

[Shinigami]

Tejas, once combat-ready, will be able to outgun the JF-17

thats not an impressive milestone

 

[Strigon]

lol ok

 

[SipahSalar]

First let Tejas fly at least, JF-17 to bohat dur kee baat hai.

 

[Ultima Thule]

I ask simple question to all Indian members that why you called your beloved crapy little LEAST CAPABLE AIRCRAFT your indenginous product, it is based on scale down version of JAS-37 without canard, its fly-by-wire develop and tested by USA, its engine is also AMERICAN, its radar is ISRAELI, its avionics are FRENCH, ISRAELI, RUSSIAN and some INDIAN, then why Indian fanboys thinks that their beloved crapy little LEAST CAPABLE AIRCRAFT their indenginous junk, I know the capabilities of India they cut, copy, paste the foreign technology and said that these technology is develop by India, what a poor little Indian fanboys that live in fools land and fantasy world, oh I forget that your single beloved crapy little LEAST CAPABLE AIRCRAFT will fight to the all airforces of the world and win in single mission

 

[ConcealCarry]

Is that why more than 700,000 IA personnel are deployed in Kashmir for the last three decades?

Quite an intelligent retort, windy. Well you see its unintelligent to use, Air Force on Home territory. where Indian Civilians are up in arms that's a "law and order" problem not a "military" one.

For that matter IOC and FOC are technicalities, that are required in Peace time development and induction of Fighters and/or Military Equipment. You take anything to battle if it suits the requirement of the battle.

Not even F22 has seen *hostile and *contested air defences and got its Full Operational Capability (FOC) in December 2007 a full decade after induction.

Yes SU30MKIs, Mirage 2000 and Mig 29 haven't seen battle in *any theater. But you see an F22 and a MKI aren't the same, none can be called as a Battle proven platform. but that doesn't make them equals.

Hi also said Manmohan was a dehati aurat and Modi is a terrorist, so you agree with him on all counts or just the one that suits you?

Nawaz sharif (your Prime minister compared) and said that LCA is much more advance.

and don't forget about this....

Indian Air Force SU30 Crashed Near Pune | Plane Spotters India - www.PlaneSpotters.in

Come to think of it, we shot down your once super duper MiG-21s with the ancient F-86s.
Who knows what the so called souped up will do to your next generation of revolutionary planes, even though expert refer to it as a follow up Flanker.
I guess India lost out on the title of being the Banana republic on Rafale deal, after all it was monkeying around to be the launch customer.... oh don't just open the Champagne yet, when the likes of JF-17 do their intended job and make bomb holes, then barge-pole will be last of your worries.....pray that the IAF base commanders once again don't need to drag out your pilots to rub bombing accuracy in their face.


Bird strike.....not an unknown hazard.....single engine aircraft....no chance of recovery.
Now lets see, brand new four engine.... makers still puzzled why inverted.

 

[rcrmj]

So let us believe him. tejas is superior to JF 17 and Alkhalid is comfortable than His merc.


It is not your media who are mocking but you are mocking yourself.

ask any Chinese member here``its a fact, only if you can read Chinese lol

 

[ConcealCarry]

If one reads between the lines, indian officials are actually praising JF-17. Despite the idiotic comments by indian fan boys belittling Thunder, indian officials are using it as a bench mark to make their 30 year old junk palatable to indian air force which is not ready to touch this piece of junk with a 10 meter long bargepole and the stupid masses which is made to believe that india is the richest country in the world and it can buy whatever it wants, and now after 12 years of monkey dancing when the saw the final bill they forgot which way is their head. So first they came up with a face saving scheme to back out by proposing to by 36 off the shelve within weeks while the negotiations for the make in india continue. then they came out that 36 is the final number, and now even that looks suspicious as the negotiations drag on for close to a year.

Now that the realization has dawned on them that there is no way they can finance this "mother of all deals" and they have to swallow the 30 year old junk, they need to make it look good for which they can't say it's better than Rafael or MKI (cause if it was, then why do the purchase drama for 12 years in the first place) so they have to make it look better than something worthwhile and if that thing happens to be Pakistani Thunder, then even better, cause that is the best way to fool the already stupid idiots. Just like we say Thunder is better or close to F-16 (something worthwhile).

SO finally indian officials have acknowledged that Thunder in its present form is a superior fighter to use as a bench mark for their 30 year old junk to achieve when and if it can.

NEW DELHI: The indigenous Tejas light combat aircraft will be able to thrash the Pakistani JF-17 'Thunder' fighters in "reach, punch and ability to kill and survive in an engagement", top Indian defence officials asserted.

But that will be possible only when the Tejas is ready with an AESA (active electronically scanned array) radar, mid-air refuelling, long-range BVR (beyond visual range) missiles and advanced electronic warfare capabilities. Moreover, the single-engine fighter has to undergo 43 "improvements" out of the 57 "weaknesses" detected in its maintainability, which will ensure it can land and take off again within an hour, the officials said.

All this will take another three years at the very least, further prolonging the already tortuous development saga of the country's first home fighter that began way back in 1983. Even if defence PSU Hindustan Aeronautics manages to ramp up its production rate to 12 jets from the existing eight per year, all the 120 Tejas planned so far for IAF will be inducted only by 2026 or so.

The development of a Tejas Mark-II, with a more powerful engine, in turn, would be possible only by 2024-2025 at the earliest, with the production to follow thereafter. Consequently, the proposed Tejas Mark-II for the IAF now stands scrapped, though it will continue for the Navy, as was earlier reported by TOI.

The plan now is to jump directly onto the development of the indigenous fifth-generation fighter aircraft, the twin-engine AMCA (advanced medium combat aircraft), from the single-engine Tejas Mark-I, as part of the overall rejig of fighter induction plans.

"DRDO-HAL will now fully focus on producing the improved Tejas as well as designing and developing the AMCA, which should start coming in by 2035 when the upgraded Mirage-2000s and MiG-29s begin retiring," said an official.

Tejas remains crucial to make up the depleting numbers in IAF, which is down to just 35 fighter squadrons and will reach its sanctioned figure of 42 squadrons only by 2027 or so. With a limited range of just over 400 km, theS Tejas will basically be used for "air defence" to take on incoming enemy fighters or "close air-to-ground" operations to support the Army.

The "strike packages" deep into enemy territory will perforce have to be undertaken by fighters like the Russian-origin Sukhoi-30MKIs and the Rafales being acquired from France. "But the Tejas, after the 43 improvements, will be more than able to outgun the similar JF-17, which Pakistan is inducting with China's help," said an official.

"Tejas will help in plugging the gaps that will further arise after all the existing 10 MiG-21 and four MiG-27 squadrons are retired by 2025. It was never meant to replace a MMRCA (medium multi-role combat aircraft) like Rafale or a heavyweight Sukhoi-30MKI," he added.

Tejas, once combat-ready, will be able to outgun the Pakistan JF-17 fighters - The Times of India

Even if one was to believe these self gloryfying statements, do the Indian brains think that in a decade or so the JF-17 will be flying in it's MK-1 configuration, more so do these simple Sunils have any idea about JF-17's capabilities....they should first concentrate on making the Tejas airworthy before drawing comparisons.