Tejas, once combat-ready, will be able to outgun the JF-17

[Strigon]

Its only delayed 3 decades because its really a 6th gen aircraft design/ manufacture in progress. Take another decade while the thought sinks in.

 

[Stephen Cohen]

@Windjammer

It is your FATE to see India's progress and RISING strength
and then burn with jealousy

 

[Ultima Thule]

well sirji firstly no chinese or swedish AWACS can guide AMRAAM(from F16s) but even if we agree to it guess what we have one of the most leathel AWACS the Phalcons and they are datalinked to all indian fighter jets so what you dream we can do that too and unlike you who onli have AMRAAM & SD10s we have all the alterst variants of russian , french and israeli air to air BVRs like MICA , archer , alamo , IderbyER and a few others + we are al;ready developing owr own BVR Astra and we dont just have MKIs as they will come later first it will be upgraded M2Ks and Mig29s and possiballi rafales (meteor BVR will come with it) and then what will you do

when you get FRENCH MICA missile, Alamo is absolute air to air missiles, Archer is not BVR missile, its a WVR missile

point is its not just that PAF has BVRs we have more and much much better from Israel, France and russia and upgraded Mig29s , M2Ks & bisons all have long range BVR capability even if you keep the MKIs owt of it and all indian fighter aircrafts have datalink capability and are given a superior radar backup by long range 3D & 4D multi layered AESA & PESA land based , aerostat and AWACS radars what will you do about it then

Simply jam all the networks

well sirji firstly no chinese or swedish AWACS can guide AMRAAM(from F16s) but even if we agree to it guess what we have one of the most leathel AWACS the Phalcons and they are datalinked to all indian fighter jets so what you dream we can do that too and unlike you who onli have AMRAAM & SD10s we have all the alterst variants of russian , french and israeli air to air BVRs like MICA , archer , alamo , IderbyER and a few others + we are al;ready developing owr own BVR Astra and we dont just have MKIs as they will come later first it will be upgraded M2Ks and Mig29s and possiballi rafales (meteor BVR will come with it) and then what will you do

Alo

well sirji firstly no chinese or swedish AWACS can guide AMRAAM(from F16s) but even if we agree to it guess what we have one of the most leathel AWACS the Phalcons and they are datalinked to all indian fighter jets so what you dream we can do that too and unlike you who onli have AMRAAM & SD10s we have all the alterst variants of russian , french and israeli air to air BVRs like MICA , archer , alamo , IderbyER and a few others + we are al;ready developing owr own BVR Astra and we dont just have MKIs as they will come later first it will be upgraded M2Ks and Mig29s and possiballi rafales (meteor BVR will come with it) and then what will you do

Alamo is outdated and useless technology from 60s era,Archer is not BVR its formidable WVR missile though, MICA's range is only 60 km and their is no DERBY ER, its a simply DERBY which has a range of only 50 km,induct ASTRA and METEOR first than talk, you live in fools Paradise, fantasy land.

@Windjammer

It is your FATE to see India's progress and RISING strength
and then burn with jealousy

Than put a burnol on your butt

 

[ConcealCarry]

Are you really that dumb? was that a cricket match in front of international audience or a hot situation on the border?

you still dint gave me the links and proofs by some international source when did your couple of F-16s kept locked 5 IAF fulcrums while shaowing them

waise unlike your super rich PAF we poor indians dont let any single engined roatarry(helicopter) fixed winged(fighter jet ) make a flypast on rajpath but i guess you dont want to beleve it dont ya

waise jammer bhiyye tejas has already clocked 3000 flying hours of flight testing in all weather all altitude & day and night operations and that too without a single crash can the same be claimed by your super duper JF-17

looks like you dont have anything to say thats why instead of answering my whole post you cherry picked onli this one line

dont worry jammer bhiyye LCA is last of your worries first find a credible opponent of all the IAFs current frontline fighters like upgraded M2Ks, Mig29s and jags dont even count MKI in it as it will be an overkill for you airforce

 

[GURU DUTT]

when you get FRENCH MICA missile, Alamo is absolute air to air missiles, Archer is not BVR missile, its a WVR missile

Simply jam all the networks


Alo


Alamo is outdated and useless technology from 60s era,Archer is not BVR its formidable WVR missile though, MICA's range is only 60 km and their is no DERBY ER, its a simply DERBY which has a range of only 50 km,induct ASTRA and METEOR first than talk, you live in fools Paradise, fantasy land.


Than put a burnol on your butt

well my bad i dint gave you full report here are some BVRs of IAF

• R-77 (AA-12) active radar homing medium range AAM, 100 km
• Astra missile active radar homing medium range AAM, 80–110 km
• R-27ER (AA-10C) semi-active radar guided, long range AAM 130 km
• R-27ET (AA-10D) Infrared homing extended range version, long range AAM 120 km
• R-27R (AA-10A) semi-active radar guided, medium range AAM, 80 km
• R-27T (AA-10B) infrared homing seeker, medium range AAM, 70 km
• Novator KS-172 AAM-L 400 km, Indian/Russian air-to-air missile designed as an "AWACS killer"

MICA (missile) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://aviationweek.com/paris-air-show-2015/1-derby-all-new-performence-0

I-Derby ER | Defense Update:

 

[Ultima Thule]

well my bad i dint gave you full report here are some BVRs of IAF

• R-77 (AA-12) active radar homing medium range AAM, 100 km
• Astra missile active radar homing medium range AAM, 80–110 km
• R-27ER (AA-10C) semi-active radar guided, long range AAM 130 km
• R-27ET (AA-10D) Infrared homing extended range version, long range AAM 120 km
• R-27R (AA-10A) semi-active radar guided, medium range AAM, 80 km
• R-27T (AA-10B) infrared homing seeker, medium range AAM, 70 km
• Novator KS-172 AAM-L 400 km, Indian/Russian air-to-air missile designed as an "AWACS killer"

MICA (missile) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://aviationweek.com/paris-air-show-2015/1-derby-all-new-performence-0

I-Derby ER | Defense Update:

Thanks sir I think there are three missiles in IAF is threat to PAF, R-77 Derby ER and K-100, I have a question for you sir, is Derby ER, ASTRA and K-100 are acquired or being acquired? Thank you Sir

 

[GURU DUTT]

Thanks sir I think there are three missiles in IAF is threat to PAF, R-77 Derby ER and K-100, I have a question for you sir, is Derby ER, ASTRA and K-100 are acquired or being acquired? Thank you Sir

derby er is in process of intigration in tejas according to the report published in june 2015 now its october do your maths

astra is still in testing phase and will be seen on all indian fighter platforms as and when its ready

now as for K-100 well IAF circels are tight lipped about it .... rest you can speculate yourself

 

[fatman17]

NEW DELHI: The indigenous Tejas light combat aircraft will be able to thrash the Pakistani JF-17 'Thunder' fighters in "reach, punch and ability to kill and survive in an engagement", top Indian defence officials asserted.

But that will be possible only when the Tejas is ready with an AESA (active electronically scanned array) radar, mid-air refuelling, long-range BVR (beyond visual range) missiles and advanced electronic warfare capabilities. Moreover, the single-engine fighter has to undergo 43 "improvements" out of the 57 "weaknesses" detected in its maintainability, which will ensure it can land and take off again within an hour, the officials said.

All this will take another three years at the very least, further prolonging the already tortuous development saga of the country's first home fighter that began way back in 1983. Even if defence PSU Hindustan Aeronautics manages to ramp up its production rate to 12 jets from the existing eight per year, all the 120 Tejas planned so far for IAF will be inducted only by 2026 or so.

The development of a Tejas Mark-II, with a more powerful engine, in turn, would be possible only by 2024-2025 at the earliest, with the production to follow thereafter. Consequently, the proposed Tejas Mark-II for the IAF now stands scrapped, though it will continue for the Navy, as was earlier reported by TOI.

The plan now is to jump directly onto the development of the indigenous fifth-generation fighter aircraft, the twin-engine AMCA (advanced medium combat aircraft), from the single-engine Tejas Mark-I, as part of the overall rejig of fighter induction plans.

"DRDO-HAL will now fully focus on producing the improved Tejas as well as designing and developing the AMCA, which should start coming in by 2035 when the upgraded Mirage-2000s and MiG-29s begin retiring," said an official.

Tejas remains crucial to make up the depleting numbers in IAF, which is down to just 35 fighter squadrons and will reach its sanctioned figure of 42 squadrons only by 2027 or so. With a limited range of just over 400 km, theS Tejas will basically be used for "air defence" to take on incoming enemy fighters or "close air-to-ground" operations to support the Army.

The "strike packages" deep into enemy territory will perforce have to be undertaken by fighters like the Russian-origin Sukhoi-30MKIs and the Rafales being acquired from France. "But the Tejas, after the 43 improvements, will be more than able to outgun the similar JF-17, which Pakistan is inducting with China's help," said an official.

"Tejas will help in plugging the gaps that will further arise after all the existing 10 MiG-21 and four MiG-27 squadrons are retired by 2025. It was never meant to replace a MMRCA (medium multi-role combat aircraft) like Rafale or a heavyweight Sukhoi-30MKI," he added.

Tejas, once combat-ready, will be able to outgun the Pakistan JF-17 fighters - The Times of India

Even if one was to believe these self gloryfying statements, do the Indian brains think that in a decade or so the JF-17 will be flying in it's MK-1 configuration, more so do these simple Sunils have any idea about JF-17's capabilities....they should first concentrate on making the Tejas airworthy before drawing comparisons.

of course the operative word is "once" and it has been 30 years in waiting for "once".

 

[Windjammer]

of course the operative word is "once" and it has been 30 years in waiting for "once".

The Indians in essence should have followed the instruction No-3 painted just under Tejas cockpit.

''Run with Face away from the aircraft''.

 

[Guynextdoor2]

But you won't be this even in 3030

The Indians in essence should have followed the instruction No-3 painted just under Tejas cockpit.

''Run with Face away from the aircraft''.

Kuch to sharam karo, you're comparing your super duper Mid Range fighter with a point defence fighter....even that you're not able to do convincingly. Uske upar big big talking.

 

[Windjammer]

But you won't be this even in 3030

We believe in reality check not tail lifting movies....how's swash Bharat coming along.

Kuch to sharam karo, you're comparing your super duper Mid Range fighter with a point defence fighter....even that you're not able to do convincingly. Uske upar big big talking.

Abey aqal ke dushman, is it me comparing or some berserk Indian defence official covering their own failures by dragging in JF-17 with your LCA aka Little Confused Aircraft.

 

[volatile]

Time has its own value probably after couple of decades LCA will be in Record books

 

[Ultima Thule]

Time has its own value probably after couple of decades LCA will be in Record books

Because your single LATE COMING AIRCRAFT will fight all airforce in a single mission and win, get up your dream kid