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Teenager cancer victim, 14, becomes the first British child to be cryogenically FROZEN

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Girl wins the right to return from the dead: Teenager cancer victim, 14, becomes the first British child to be cryogenically FROZEN after winning court battle against her father
  • Child begged judge to allow her to be frozen as she was dying from cancer
  • She said: 'They may find a cure for cancer and wake me up. This is my wish'
  • Case reached High Court because of a row between her divorced parents
  • Father warned: 'Even if she is brought back to life in, let's say, 200 years, she may not find any relative and she might not remember things'
  • Judge praises 'valiant' girl who has since been taken and frozen in Detroit
  • She was informed days before death and called Justice Jackson her 'hero'
  • Girl slowly frozen to -196C in facility that keeps 150 bodies in storage tanks
Landmark ruling: Mr Justice Peter Jackson has agreed a British child who died of cancer could become the first British child to be cryogenically frozen

A 14-year-old girl who died from cancer has become the first British child to be cryogenically frozen after a judge agreed to her dying wish so that one day she could 'be cured and woken up'.

The teenager, who cannot be named, died last month and is now in a 'cryostat' tank at around -196C (-321F) inside the Michigan-based Cryonics Institute, it can be reported for the first time today.


She was at the centre of a fierce legal battle between her divorced parents - with her mother agreeing to her wish to be frozen while her estranged father refused because of its £37,000 cost and the brutal process of preserving her.

During the landmark case she wrote an extraordinary letter to a judge while on her death bed.

She said: 'I am only 14-years-old and I don't want to die but I know I am going to die.

'I want to live and live longer and I think that in the future they may find a cure for my cancer and wake me up. I want to have this chance. This is my wish.'


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Landmark case: The girl has been frozen at become the first British child to be cryogenically frozen and in the Cryonics Institute in Detroit - she is now in one of these storage tanks

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'I think being cryo-preserved gives me a chance to be cured and woken up - even in hundreds of years' time. I don't want to be buried underground'.

'I AM ONLY 14 AND I DON'[T WANT TO DIE BUT I KNOW I AM GOING TO': DYING GIRL'S INCREDIBLE LETTER BEGGING TO BE FROZEN
The British girl now frozen in America met the judge to prove she was capable of making decisions about her body and wrote him a letter explaining her reasons.

Mr Justice Jackson said: 'I am only 14-years-old and I don't want to die but I know I am going to die.

'I think being cryo-preserved gives me a chance to be cured and woken up - even in hundreds of years' time. I don't want to be buried underground.

'I want to live and live longer and I think that in the future they may find a cure for my cancer and wake me up.

'I want to have this chance. This is my wish.'

Justice Jackson said that she died peacefully knowing she would be frozen and discussed the arrangements before on the day she died.

She had asked the High Court to rule that her mother should be the only person allowed to make decisions about the disposal of her body.

After agreeing, High Court judge Mr Justice Jackson, who visited the girl's bedside shortly before her death on October 17, said the terminally ill she died peacefully knowing that her remains would be frozen.

The judge said he had been moved by the 'valiant way' in which she had faced her 'predicament'.

Today the girl's solicitor, Zoe Fleetwood, said the teenager described Mr Justice Jackson as her 'hero' after being informed of the court's decision days before her death.

Ms Fleetwood told the BBC Radio 4 Today programme: 'By October 6, the girl knew that her wishes were going to be followed. That gave her great comfort. Very sadly she died on October 17. She had those last few days knowing that her wish was granted.'

She added: 'It was a great privilege to represent her. She had extraordinary determination.

'When the decision was communicated to her on October 6, she was very pleased. She was delighted and she wanted to see the judge. The judge did go and see her the very next day. She communicated to me after the meeting and she referred to the judge as Mr 'Hero' Peter Jackson.'





Her body has been flown to America and she has since slowly been chilled over two to three weeks in Liquid Nitrogen and stored next to around 150 other bodies.

She is in one of America's two main cryo-facilities - the Cryonics Institute near Detroit - where its founder Robert Ettinger was frozen with two of his wives when he died aged 92.







Around 250 people have spent huge sums cryo-preserving their bodies - the first was Dr James Bedford in 1967 - and it has been a popular theme in movies such as Forever Young starring Mel Gibson.

Even if the treatment is successful and she is brought back to life in, let's say, 200 years, she may not find any relative and she might not remember things. She may be left in a desperate situation - given that she is still only 14-years-old - and will be in the United States of America
Girl's father to judge on his opposition to her case
Thousands more have paid up to £150,000 to do the same when they die.

A device called a 'heart-lung resuscitator' is used to get the blood pumping through the body again, when required, and medication is applied to the body to prevent the cells from deteriorating.

Blood and bodily fluids are drained, then they are replaced with a solution like antifreeze.

But the process is hugely controversial, especially with scientists and doctors, because it has never been possible to successfully revive a human or any mammal frozen in this way.

The freezing process was carried out 'quite swiftly' after the teenager's death, said Ms Fleetwood.

She added: 'It was a difficult process. Some might say the girl's mother's attention was directed towards that procedure rather than grieving at that time.

'But her daughter had passed away. The procedure needed to be carried out. One can't imagine what this parent was going through at this time from the loss of her daughter. But parents' attention can be directed elsewhere with various arrangements after a person's death.'

Ms Fleetwood said the case came to court for the first time on September 26 and was swiftly dealt with in little over a week in 'an extraordinary process very sensitively carried out with respect to the family who are grieving at this time'.

The case did not create a precedent with regard to the right to be frozen in the hope of future reawakening, said the solicitor.

'The case was not about the rights and wrongs of cryo-preservation,' she said. 'In accordance with the children's case which go before the courts, this case is about the child's welfare and her wishes being followed.'



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The girl's body is now suspended in freezing nitrogen at Michigan's Cryonics Institute near Detroit. Pictured is one of the areas where here body would be packed in ice and prepared for freezing

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Process: Bodies are drained of blood on a table packed with ice(left) and then frozen slowly over several weeks before reaching -196˚ C and being kept in a regulated cylinder (right)


WHAT IS CRYOPRESERVATION, HOW MUCH DOES IT COST AND HOW DOES IT WORK?
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Process: The girl will have been treated within minutes of death - flown to America and then slowly frozen to an ultra-low temperature in the hope, one day, she'll be woken up again

WHAT IS CRYOPRESERVATION?

The deep freezing of a body to - 196C (-321F). Anti-freeze compounds are injected into the corpse to stop cells being damaged. The hope is that medical science will advance enough to bring the patient back to life. Two main US organisations carry out 'cryonics' – Alcor, in Arizona, and Cryonics Institute, Michigan.

HOW IS IT MEANT TO WORK?

The process can only take place once the body is legally dead. Ideally, it begins within two minutes of the heart stopping – and no more than 15. The body must be packed in ice and injected with chemicals to reduce blood clotting. At the cryonics facility, it is cooled to just above OC and the blood is replaced with a solution to preserve organs. The body is injected with another solution to stop ice crystals forming in organs and tissues, then cooled to - 130C. The final step is to place the body into a container which is lowered into a tank of liquid nitrogen at - 196C.

WHAT'S THE CHANCE OF SUCCESS?

Many experts say there is none. Organs such as the heart and kidneys have never been successfully frozen and thawed, so it is even less likely a whole body – and the brain – could be without irreversible damage.

HOW MUCH DOES IT COST?

Charges at the Cryonics Institute, where the girl has been stored, start at around $35,000 (£28,000) to 'members' for whole-body cryopreservation. The girl was charged £37,000, which may include costs such as transportation. Rival group Alcor charges $200,000 (£161,000) for whole-body preservation.

HOW LONG BEFORE PEOPLE CAN BE BROUGHT BACK TO LIFE?

Cryonics organisations claim it could be decades or even centuries. However Medical experts say once cells are damaged during freezing and turned to 'mush' they cannot be converted back to living tissue, any more than you can turn a scrambled egg back into a raw egg.

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do you think she should be cryogenically frozen and why?
and would you do the same if your in the same situation as the girls parents either having them frozen or buried?
@Vergennes @Penguin @mike2000 is back @waz @Kaptaan @gambit @James Jaevid @Technogaianist and others............
 
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Girl wins the right to return from the dead: Teenager cancer victim, 14, becomes the first British child to be cryogenically FROZEN after winning court battle against her father

They find a cure, revive her, and she's probably going to be a zombie..."alive" but not all "there". Her brain will be like a formatted hard drive.
 
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Death is a reality. Everything that lives has to die. Don't think there can ever be a cure for death.

Death is because of some reasons. Cure the reasons and there is no death.

Preservation might work if everything is fine. Its like waking up next morning and your memory is intact.
 
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Feel sorry for the kid. May her soul rest in peace!
 
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Death is because of some reasons. Cure the reasons and there is no death.

Preservation might work if everything is fine. Its like waking up next morning and your memory is intact.
You cannot run from death my friend. The body gets old and weak with time. Even if you cure every disease you will be dependent and who wants to live like that? The end is death from one failure of organ or another in that case as well. We can't change some things and death is one of them.
 
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do you think she should be cryogenically frozen and why?
Is it scientifically possible? To revive someone from a frozen state.
They find a cure, revive her, and she's probably going to be a zombie..."alive" but not all "there". Her brain will be like a formatted hard drive.
Good idea. I think it's possible someday that we may be able ot find a cure for cancer, i still don't get how the whole freezing thing works. Too good to be true.
 
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Poor Soul.
The problem with some people is think they can alive again or they can control the death.
2 months ago, a 25 year old woman hanged herself trying to ‘go halfway to heaven’ to meet her best friend. She thought she can control death, LOL.
 
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Is it scientifically possible? To revive someone from a frozen state.

Good idea. I think it's possible someday that we may be able ot find a cure for cancer, i still don't get how the whole freezing thing works. Too good to be true.

No mammal has ever been revived from a cryogenic state. Part of the deal about being frozen is that they expect in the future to figure out how to do that too.
 
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Gone too early! RIP.

Is it scientifically possible? To revive someone from a frozen state.

Good idea. I think it's possible someday that we may be able ot find a cure for cancer, i still don't get how the whole freezing thing works. Too good to be true.

I didn't even know we could freeze and revive people,but still believe that is impossible,not feasible.... until a proven case!
 
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Is it scientifically possible? To revive someone from a frozen state.

Good idea. I think it's possible someday that we may be able ot find a cure for cancer, i still don't get how the whole freezing thing works. Too good to be true.
personally i dont think so, i seen documentaries of it actually being done, its not nice to watch, but i did, did you know the people doing the "freezing" are not qualified. personally i think its just a request to keep the little one happy. think of your brain as kind of like ram which you get on a computer, it stores memory whilst there's power going into the machine but if it switched off then it loses that memory. the brain works similarly but the brain does not lose its memory immediately after death but about an hour after death so that all the brain cells are dead. and this girl had cancer and that makes "activation" harder. and what the risk of damage to the cells?

but if the body is put in like a deep state of hibernation like a coma then its possible but then maintenance and cost goes through the roof and it would cost like millions as opposed to tens or hundreds of thousands.
 
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37,000£ to turn your body in a useless popsicle.

Not a bad business model.
 
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