Tarek Fatah - India without SINDH, SINDHU is not INDIA

[BHarwana]

He is an Indian cheerleader. Indians are having an orgasm because their cheerleader is begging for Sindh to be included in Rapistan.

Yes this idiot will not add sindh to India but he will give us east Punjab.

 

[LASER1]

I'd like to see evidence that they also considered Hindustan as part of the Indus. Even if they did, it doesn't magically make the Indus part of your heritage.

Alexander was a Greek, not a Roman.

Yes, it was a mistake on my part.

And here is your evidence, there's many if you don't trust just this.

https://books.google.co.in/books?id=RlCUBgAAQBAJ&pg=PA62&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false

Dharmic Hindustanis - Claim to be proud inheritors of the Vedic culture but at the same time completely denounce the Aryan migrations and consider themselves 100% indigenous. Also feel the need to claim Pakistanis as the same as Hindustanis so they can claim Pakistani history as their own.

Muslim Hindustanis - Claim to be proud Muslims but they lick the boot of the Hindus that rule over them while simultaneously bashing their own heritage (e.g denouncing the Muslim invasions of the region).

Side note: Obviously not all Hindustanis are like this, but most of the nationalists that one will encounter are.

haha, so you're saying Christians/Hindus/ Sikhs are not Pakistanis? And they lick Muslims who rule over them? Or Shia Muslims as licking Sunni majority Muslims? Or the Ahmedis who are not considered Muslim.

Please, I'm not interested in these kinds of fallacies.

I don't understand what part of this is hard for you RSS monkeys to understand. We value two parts of our history, our Islamic one and our pre-Islamic one, but we place more emphasis on the former because most of us primarily identify as Muslim, and because our nation was founded because of Islam.

If I'm a Monkey you are one too. Or are you? Anyway, you only value your Islamic history, given that's your national identity and it is written in your constitution. Last time I saw you were effortlessly rallying for the Muslim history over Hindu, I never thought you're such a hypocrite. Giving the term 'emphasis' is just another diversion I'm not buying it.

 

[N.Siddiqui]

Indians are very successful in each n every field and we are a great civilization.

Re-post...discussion lost the verve....


Casteism and Creed-ism is not called Civilization...India is known for this apartheid, the only country in the world which has a functional and effective Caste system, in the constitution, in the religion as well.

And are you owning Indus valley civilization, the Moen-jo-Daro, the Meher Garh, the Harappa and all that, that land is now ours, moaning and groaning won't take it from us...the land and civilization belong to the people who lives there.

 

[LASER1]

the land and civilization belong to the people who lives there.

Lol! Then Americans and Mexicans must be Aztecs.

 

[ranawat]

And ask these Gangadeshi's if their claim is based on this 'Hindoo myth' then why are they not also claiming as India -

Nepal - More Hindu then India. Has highest % Hindu in world.
Burma -
Thailand
Bali
etc

All these regions have or had significant Hindoo culture. Why do Gangadeshi's have this fetish only for Indus Pakistan? Because this is the cradle of civilization and these inferiority ridden aborginals want to latch on to this land so they can wobble thier heads in pride.

Indus pakistan
Good name
INDUSTAN will be better

 

[Hamza913]

Yes, it was a mistake on my part.

And here is your evidence, there's many if you don't trust just this.

https://books.google.co.in/books?id=RlCUBgAAQBAJ&pg=PA62&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false

I'd like something more specific please. Anyway, it still doesn't detract from my point. Other people's perceptions do not change the reality.

haha, so you're saying Christians/Hindus/ Sikhs are not Pakistanis? And they lick Muslims who rule over them? Or Shia Muslims as licking Sunni majority Muslims? Or the Ahmedis who are not considered Muslim.

Well done, you've completely missed the point.

Please, I'm not interested in these kinds of fallacies

Do you even have a high enough IQ to know what a fallacy is?

If I'm a Monkey you are one too. Or are you?

No, I'm a Homo sapien. You and the rest of your RSS buddies have given pretty good evidence for us to allocate you to a different species given your levels of (or lack thereof) intelligence.

Anyway, you only value your Islamic history

Incorrect, if you were fully literate you'd know that.

Last time I saw you were effortlessly rallying for the Muslim history over Hindu, I never thought you're such a hypocrite.

Where does hypocrisy come into this? Can your feeble mind even define such a term? I have always valued both parts of our history, but I have always said the Islamic one is more important.

Giving the term 'emphasis' is just another diversion I'm not buying it.

Keep on living in denial, it doesn't bother me.

 

[newb3e]

oho tareq fateh fateh keh abbay hindu satan ney balochistan fatah kar lia jo sindh keh peechay lag gaya hai ya budha!

 

[Indus Pakistan]

INDUSTAN will be better

I agree, It's rather bizzare that the country on the Indus basin, Pakistan has no referance to it's geography but Indonesia, India, Indiana [USA], Indies [West] that have non to limited geographical association feed off from the root Indus River.

But then as I said we have Italy today on the soil of the Roman heartland but have a country called Romania on the periphery of Europe.

 

[N.Siddiqui]

Lol! Then Americans and Mexicans must be Aztecs.

Mexicans yes...the white Caucasians no...as all of them were immigrants.


When used to describe ethnic groups, the term "Aztec" refers to several Nahuatl-speaking peoples of central Mexico in the postclassic period of Mesoamerican chronology, especially the Mexica, the ethnic group that had a leading role in establishing the hegemonic empire based at Tenochtitlan.

 

[jamahir]

He is right some of the time.

India should have a UCC ( Uniform Civil Code ) that applies to all people equally instead of there existing a Muslim Personal Law, a Hindu Personal Law etc.

Although, I didn't understand what he said about 'Aman ki asha'. My opinion is that all SAARC countries have their own borders but the countries be governed by a common progressive political system.

 

[El Sidd]

What is written in every constitution is all good and soothing. Hopefully, you practice what you preach.

Sure

 

[ranawat]

He is right some of the time.

India should have a ( UCC ) Uniform Civil Code that applies to all people equally instead of there existing a Muslim Personal Law, a Hindu Personal Law etc.

Although I didn't understand what he said about 'Aman ki asha'. My opinion is that all SAARC countries have their own borders but the countries be governed by a common progressive political system.

He is doing what is right. He was persecuted in pakistan by extremists for his secular liberal views . It happens with all pakistanis who support liberal secular democratic society.

 

[jamahir]

He is doing what is right.

Yes, most of the time.

 

[LASER1]

I'd like something more specific please. Anyway, it still doesn't detract from my point. Other people's perceptions do not change the reality.

I can't give you a book that says Hindustan is entire India. You can read between the lines.
Tianzhu (India) If you want to read what it says. Or need more links here's Chinese version
https://baike.baidu.com/item/天竺/763559
PS, google translator sucks for some parts

Well done, you've completely missed the point.

No, you don't have a point. Your idea was a division based on religious identity, you brought it into a discussion about national identity. I was giving you an example on how your logic went, but what can I say, high IQ's blew it.

Do you even have a high enough IQ to know what a fallacy is?

You can start checking your own IQ by defining Dharmic Hindustanis. Lol! You don't even know what that means.

Incorrect, if you were fully literate you'd know that.

Given less than half of Pakistanis know how to read and write in any language, I'd say I have a better understanding than most of you guys. And Majority of your countrymen don't know a bunch of right-leaning Pakistanis is fighting a losing battle on PDF over what's the cultural identity of Pakistan.

 

[fitpOsitive]

I dont care lol

No worries.