Talwar Class Frigate of Navy being loaded with Shtil-1 surface to air missile at INS Kadamba

[samlove]

This is how, Indian Navy integrate weapons into naval vessels. In pic INS Teg (F-45) a

, which is also the home of aircraft carrier INS Vikramaditya.

Seems like after INS Vikramaditya, navy has started arming its escorting fleet.

 

[NIA]

This is how, Indian Navy integrate weapons into naval vessels. In pic INS Teg (F-45) a

, which is also the home of aircraft carrier INS Vikramaditya.

Seems like after INS Vikramaditya, navy has started arming its escorting fleet.

Hey I just saw this article on facebook..I think u have pasted this from FB..Am i right?

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

Under the mid life refit program the first batch of 3 talwar class(talwar,trishul,tabar) and 3 delhi class destroyers are going to get a real good overhaul,which was just cleared in july.

First 3 Talwars get -
8 (220 km) Klub replaced by 8 (300km) brahmos.
ACTAS active towed array sonar (German)
SHTIL-1 arm launcher replaced by Shtil VLS cells.

Delhi Class gets -
Old Uragan shtil SAM replaced by VLS shtil-1.
New data transmission and storage system.
Subsonic Kh-35 replaced by Brahmos.
Fregat M2EM airsearch radar replacing older Fregat MAE version.
ACTAS active towed array sonar replacing current VDS(variable depth sonar)
Possible - HUMSA-NG passive sonar replacing older HUMSA passive sonar.

The biggest capability increments are the VLS shtil and the ACTAS.Followed by brahmos.

 

[ni8mare]

any idea with the no of VLS shtil in DDG and FFG?.....and specs of shtil if any

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

any idea with the no of VLS shtil in DDG and FFG?.....and specs of shtil if any

Number remains same.24 in talwar(along with igla and kashtan) and 48 in delhi(along with 32 barak-1 and kashtan).
Difference is Reaction time is halved from 12 seconds to 5 seconds.
Another difference is 3 fold increase in rate of fire - VLS can fire at 1-2 second intervals while arm launcher only six second intervals.Both are huge advantages in saturation attack scenarios.

It also has a wider envelope of engagement than arm launcher,due to being VLS.
Speed of missile increased from mach 3 to mach 4.5.

 

[ni8mare]

number of sam is too low..need to be increased

Number remains same.24 in talwar(along with igla and kashtan) and 48 in delhi(along with 32 barak-1 and kashtan).
Difference is Reaction time is halved from 12 seconds to 5 seconds.
Another difference is 3 fold increase in rate of fire - VLS can fire at 1-2 second intervals while arm launcher only six second intervals.Both are huge advantages in saturation attack scenarios.

It also has a wider envelope of engagement than arm launcher,due to being VLS.
Speed of missile increased from mach 3 to mach 4.5.

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

number of sam is too low..need to be increased

Correction,it looks like upgrade could include 36 VLS shtil.That is the amount carried by russian admiral grigorovich class(russian talwar version).

 

[ni8mare]

Correction,it looks like upgrade could include 36 VLS shtil.That is the amount carried by russian admiral grigorovich class(russian talwar version).

36 it is

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

36 it is

The addition of ACTAS sonar is a HUGE leap in ASW capabilities of these ships.Probably the best active towed sonar in the world atm.

 

[ni8mare]

The addition of ACTAS sonar is a HUGE leap in ASW capabilities of these ships.Probably the best active towed sonar in the world atm.

true.............

i have a question why aren't we using VL ASROC or any indian option in place of RBU-1000

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

true.............

i have a question why aren't we using VL ASROC or any indian option in place of RBU-1000

We use SS-N-15 ASW missile from heavy torpedo tubes on bigger ships.Its rough russian equivalent of ASROC though less sophisticated.

 

[Penguin]

Grigorovich class (russian talwar version) actually has only 2x12.
Russian Navy Thread 2. - Page 30

 

[Penguin]

true.............

i have a question why aren't we using VL ASROC or any indian option in place of RBU-1000

Whereas many Westen navies have opted for the use of lightweight 324mm ASW torpedoes for both close in ASW and as helicopter-delivered long range ASW system, Russia has traditionally combined RBU, specifically RBU-60000 with dual purpose heavyweight torpedoes (ASuW/ASW). Any shipborn Ka-27 and Ka-28 use 1 × 350mm (APR-3E), 400mm (AT-1M, VTT-1) or 450mm (UMGT-1 Orlan) ASW-torpedo or -missiles

The RBU-6000 can double as an close-in anti-torpedo self-defence weapon. Only few Western navies (US, South Korea, Japan) still use ASROC, which provides and intermediate weapons between ship and air-launched lightweight torpedo. Russia does have ASW rockets, including 50km 91RE1 member of the Club family (follow on to 45km SS-N-15 and 100km SS-N-16), but these tend to be fairly large and longer range than the US ASROC (which extends the surface and sub launch ASW range of light weights out from 10-12km to 19-22km).

 

[Mrc]

Shit 1 surface to air missile??

May be i m mis reading

 

[Dr. Sen]

Shit 1 surface to air missile??

May be i m mis reading

I know what you are trying to do here its written Shtil, pronounced more like Still.

Quoting Wiki:


Shtil‍ ' (in Cyrillic: Штиль) is Russian for "calm".