Talks have Failed again, China Now Claims the Entire Galwan Valley

[jupiter2007]

I diagree THIS is a MASSIVE wake up call.
You will see INDIA is buying time
The infrastructure work will continue and INDIA will rebuild and rearm its military next 2 or 3 years

Chinese have captured all the peaks and have started building bunkers. India is already is in disadvantage. Chinese were planning this for long time and they can block all Indian communication in Ladakh. Indian air defense system will be shooting down their own fighters and helicopters.

 

[Rakesh]

Yes, internal breakup, helped by Pakistan.

You don't quite understand the dynamics of this region. We have been fighting a civilizational war for more than a thousand years..

The conclusion is already known by us. Internal fragmentation will lead to conquest.

Pakistan simply has no other choice but to defang the enemy permanently.

This is scary. I will have to apply for visa to visit my wife's family !

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

If India gets dismembered, that will be the beginning of end of pakistan too.....

The destruction and dismemberment of India, which has tried its whole life of 72 years to destroy Pakistan and fragment it, would be a tremendous blessing and relief for Pakistan.

Indianisms don't work in the real world. Try again.

 

[SuperStar20]

Finally, Pakistan, China, Nepal, BD, Sri Lanka, Bhutan, Maldives will be safe, once for all.
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You missed my home state Odisha, I want a country too for us. This is unfair, whom to approach? Is it whinne the flu?

 

[52051]

Lol I'm not sure China would allow Arunachal Pradesh to be part of Assam if this happens

Actually India lack the tech of minization of nuclear warhead, their technology is on par with the US in 1945s.

So they have very little means to deliver their little stone-age nuclear arsenal.

Even if they resort to nukes, their nuke delivered by stone-age Brownian-motion missiles could be well intercepted by Chinese Missile defense systems, and China can then feel free to wipe Indians out of earth, with a well justified reason.

I heard China has already deployed such missile defence system in Tibet, which, thanks to the highland, may even give them the capability to intercept the missiles at boost stage in India.

I think a war with India needs benefits, it should both expanding the terriority of China, and dismember India into pieces, otherwise, whats the point of starting a war?

At the minimum it should be: China take all disputed terrorities and some plus, and let the Northeast part of India gain independence, as well as solved the Kashmir problem once and for all, and restoring Sikkim kingdom and let Nepal take back what belong to them.

 

[SuperStar20]

Actually India lack the tech of minization of nuclear warhead, their technology is on par with the US in 1945s.

So they have very little means to deliver their little stone-age nuclear arsenal.

Even if they resort to nukes, their nuke delivered by stone-age Brownian-motion missiles could be well intercepted by Chinese Missile defense systems, and China can then feel free to wipe Indians out of earth, with a well justified reason.

I heard China has already deployed such missile defence system in Tibet, which, thanks to the highland, may even give them the capability to intercept the missiles at boost stage in India.

I think a war with India needs benefits, it should both expanding the terriority of China, and dismember India into pieces, otherwise, whats the point of starting a war?

At the minimum it should be: China take all disputed terrorities and some plus, and let the Northeast part of India gain independence, as well as solved the Kashmir problem once and for all, and restoring Sikkim kingdom and let Nepal take back what belong to them.

Dod you miss your morning medication?

 

[52051]

Dod you miss your morning medication?

I think by boycotting China, all Indians have missed their medications (that is, these lucky indians who could afford) since June.

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

Despite disengagement talks, India, China mobilise further in Ladakh, only winter holds hope
India Today has learnt that far from de-escalation, a greater mobilisation and concentration of troops have been seen on both sides of the Line of Actual Control in the last 72 hours.
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Shiv Aroor
New Delhi
June 30, 2020
UPDATED: June 30, 2020 20:21 IST
reported by India Today yesterday, the talks in Chushul today led with and focused in large measure on the situation at Pangong Tso's Finger 4. India Today was the first to detail just how serious the situation is on the ridgeline at Finger 4, with permanent Chinese positions emerging for the first time in a swathe of disputed territory claimed and earlier patrolled by both sides. While the Chinese Army remains unmoved, both physically on the ground across friction points as well as in talks, it is clear that the PLA leadership has decided to focus its intransigence on Finger 4, showing every intention to move even further west into Indian territory, but held off by bigger Indian deployments in the area.


The three other friction points, Patrol Point 14 in the Galwan Valley (where the violent clash took place on June 15) and Patrol Points 15 & 17A near the Gogra Post in Hot Springs, also came up for discussion. As India Today has reported, the situation at the Galwan Valley and Hot Springs is less precarious currently compared to Pangong Tso, with the proximity and continuing mobilisation around Finger 4 being seen as a continued hostile action.

Three things have emerged quite clearly from today's talks. One, the process to define the crucial 'how' of disengagement has made no clear headway. Two, that while the two sides have defined their own details of disengagement, there are key disagreements that have stalled any clear progress in the talks. And three, the token reduction in troops seen at some sites, including Patrol Point 14, is precisely that -- token, in the present scheme of things.

In the absence of any clear take-aways to build on for the next round of talks, it is near certain that any disengagement may only happen by default when winter sets in, and manning positions at those frontiers become impossible to sustain for both sides. In the three months before winter takes over, the two sides will likely continue to talk, though no dramatic de-escalation is expected. For now, top sources say, the level of mobilisation by both sides, especially in the last four days, has emphasised trust deficit and also increased the 'point of no return' factor in deployments.

The Indian government's decision to ban 59 Chinese mobile apps just hours before Tuesday's military talks at Chushul added a new hard dimension to India's position, one that cannot be fully disentangled from the larger confrontation.

https://www.indiatoday.in/india/sto...akh-only-winter-holds-hope-1695620-2020-06-30

 

[KeyBORED Warrior]

for the indians, 'winter is coming'

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

@Rollno21

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/talk...a-now-claims-the-entire-galwan-valley.673924/

Plz merge my thread with one above
@Foxtrot Alpha @BHarwana @waz

 

[Areesh]

Seedha bolo na talks fail ho gayi

 

[FOOLS_NIGHTMARE]

As talks fail IA is mobilising more armour(junk) towards the Ladakh front.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1277995258026979330

 

[Genghis khan1]

India is in a bad spot. considering hostilities with Pakistan, Chinese Knows that India is not in a bargaining position.

 

[faithfulguy]

Come on though this map is basically a wet dream for many ... India would have long resorted to nuclear warfare before this became a reality. Such a break up can only occur internally, not externally.

True. And there are many insurgencies within India. But it’s neighbors must do all it can to revert India back to before British arrived and end British India once and for all. India today is a continuation of the British empire. That is why India is a second hand imperialist country. It should not exist.

 

[I S I]

Indian air defense system will be shooting down their own fighters and helicopters.

That's a feature.