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Talibans are not Pakistan's friend : Gen Tariq Khan

Both. I think the country especially the Western border was deliberately and systematically weaponised from February 2002 so NATO in Afghanistan does not get the wrong idea of invading Pakistan.

I have no official proof of this of course, just my own observations how things unfolded or were being allowed to unfold.

It has always been armed but porous. Many of them married Pakistani women in FATA and conviced towns to turn against Pakistan to fight the Afghan cause. Otherwise locals are loyals and I am sure the men are in quiet desperation as Afghans dominate.

US was an ally, they have no interest in occupying Pakistani terrirtory. They were there for the Taliban.The F16 delivery in 2010 was a gesture. Why would they share their technology with a country they consider a target? They were confused with inaction from Pakistan's side towards this obvious threat.

Looks like AQ fud really did a number on Pakistani rationale. This is called 5th gen warfare.
 
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How do we force compliance? Looks like goodwill does not work on them, they see it as a weakness.






:offtopic: BUT in ALL HONESTY, did you know that afghans excel in human failure and misery?.........when comes to failure and inferiority, NO nation or people beats afghanistan and afghans...........I am being serious.
 
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It doesn't help when your eastern wing is over 2200 kms away from you and located in indian territory and whose population have FAR more in common with indians than they do with Pakistanis. Being 2200 kms away is one thing. Being a part of the Pakistani mainland is another.

You did not get the point, we did not lose BD because of Indian invasion alone, we lose it because of a Civil war because of Traitor and nationalist Bengali's, Pashtoons are more loyal to their ethnicity then Pakistan, they to this day has not fully integrated into with rest of the Pakistan, TTP/JuA and Afghan Taliban comprised of Ethnic Pashtoons who does not like the idea of Punjabi Daal khor Pakistani's, lets not forget it was our own Pashtoons who give refugee to Terrorists from Afghan Taliban, AQ, TTP and they after Operations such as Rahe Rast and Rad ul Fasad moved to cities in numbers which saw increase Talibanization of Pakistan's major cities. And now after The Triumph of AT the same Pashtoon population are more sympathetic towards Afghans, they will let them in, settle in and now they have Ethnic Pashtoon PM to back it all up. This is the perfect recipe for disaster for the rest of the Pakistan, and what makes it even more dangerous is that these Pashtoon ethnic terrorists use Islam as a cover for their own nationalists Agenda. I stand by my opinion, unless we have a leader who crack down on terrorists and ethnic nationalists from Predominantly Pashtoon areas, Pakistan will not remain intact after 2050ish, or even earlier. And before you call me Indian or American, I am still a Pakistani with Pakistani passport and CNIC still valid, I hate to see my country turning like this, been lead by a incompetent ethnic Pashtoon nationalist who took the oath to serve Pakistan but he is serving only Pashtoon's interests by giving Aid to Afghans, that money could easily be spend on Pakistani's, not just that his soft stance over the Afghan Taliban and them (AT) been comprised of ethnic Pashtoon's superiority complex with spice of broken Islam is a dangerous combination, it won't do anything to that shit hole Afghanistan, but Pakistan will turned into another shit pile just like Afghanistan or worse it will break into several independent states.
 
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We also have Nukes now
But using them is not an option. Not against India (they shoot back, mutual mass killing guaranteed), and using them against separatist/terrorist is also not an option. Again, mass destruction and many innocent dead. Nukes are only useful as bargaining chip. Not for a war.
 
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There is a new provocation where Talibani khanzeer are using truck to take down fence. These gutter rats need to exterminated but dont expect our khasi leadership to do anything.
 
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These videos need proper forensics before reaching a conclusion.
Not saying its not possible however enemy has the capability to re enact.And no the enmey here is not necessarily india. That said IEA still has structural command flow issues.. and im sure they have already conveyed their helplessness to Pakistani FO in this regardless whatever they think about it deep inside as they know splinter groups and infighting within them will weaken their control of state...

TTP are roaming free in Kunar and it looks like the state is providing protection. My guess is they are related and family ties is what made Taliban not give up OBL so what makes you think TTP which is his brainchild will be given up?

Taliban - TTP - ISIS-K are all linked with family ties.

This requires Taliban to have an attitude shift which could take 10 years, Pakistan cannot afford to waste another 10 years.

Their insistence on particular laws is a hallmark of AQ ideology. Stupid Pakistanis flirted with it too and got burnt. I still remember the marriot bombing.
 
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You did not get the point, we did not lose BD because of Indian invasion alone, we lose it because of a Civil war because of Traitor and nationalist Bengali's, Pashtoons are more loyal to their ethnicity then Pakistan, they to this day has not fully integrated into with rest of the Pakistan, TTP/JuA and Afghan Taliban comprised of Ethnic Pashtoons who does not like the idea of Punjabi Daal khor Pakistani's, lets not forget it was our own Pashtoons who give refugee to Terrorists from Afghan Taliban, AQ, TTP and they after Operations such as Rahe Rast and Rad ul Fasad moved to cities in numbers which saw increase Talibanization of Pakistan's major cities. And now after The Triumph of AT the same Pashtoon population are more sympathetic towards Afghans, they will let them in, settle in and now they have Ethnic Pashtoon PM to back it all up. This is the perfect recipe for disaster for the rest of the Pakistan, and what makes it even more dangerous is that these Pashtoon ethnic terrorists use Islam as a cover for their own nationalists Agenda. I stand by my opinion, unless we have a leader who crack down on terrorists and ethnic nationalists from Predominantly Pashtoon areas, Pakistan will not remain intact after 2050ish, or even earlier. And before you call me Indian or American, I am still a Pakistani with Pakistani passport and CNIC still valid, I hate to see my country turning like this, been lead by a incompetent ethnic Pashtoon nationalist who took the oath to serve Pakistan but he is serving only Pashtoon's interests by giving Aid to Afghans, that money could easily be spend on Pakistani's, not just that his soft stance over the Afghan Taliban and them (AT) been comprised of ethnic Pashtoon's superiority complex with spice of broken Islam is a dangerous combination, it won't do anything to that shit hole Afghanistan, but Pakistan will turned into another shit pile just like Afghanistan or worse it will break into several independent states.


Just one problem. afghanistan relies on us for survival, if we seal our border, afghanistan dies and they know it. If the Pushtuns get their own nation, it would make modern day afghanistan look like Dubai or Monaco and they know it. But yes I agree, we need a strong leader who can efficiently and powerfully deal with the Afghan question/problem.
 
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The mistake Pak is still making since 47 is to have friendly Govt in Afganistan which is not possible. No Govt in Afganistan will ever accept Durand line as border. Pak should have been able to assert itself, secure the border and root out the terrorism emanating from Afghan soil irrespective of who is in power in Afghanistan. Afghanistan should have been named and shamed publicly in Pak. Afghanistan should have been treated like India.

Pak needs to learn a lot from Turkey the way Turkey created a buffer zone in Syria after few suicide attacks occurred in Turkey. Now no one heard of suicide attacks in Turkey anymore.
 
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TTP are roaming free in Kunar and it looks like the state is providing protection. My guess is they are related and family ties is what made Taliban not give up OBL so what makes you think TTP which is his brainchild will be given up?

Taliban - TTP - ISIS-K are all linked with family ties.

This requires Taliban to have an attitude shift which could take 10 years, Pakistan cannot afford to waste another 10 years.

Their insistence on particular laws is a hallmark of AQ ideology. Stupid Pakistanis flirted with it too and got burnt. I still remember the marriot bombing.

Lmao The certified active agent that I have highlighted to be perma-banned is going complete skill and retarded now exposes even his own interests and these fake outrages etc etc this guy is an state enemy make no mistake about it I am actully enjoying this type of threads because it reveals who is who and exposes implented elements..

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Remember when trump said he could end the Afghan war by simply annihilating every walking creature in that shithole.
 
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Remember when trump said he could end the Afghan war by simply annihilating every walking creature in that shithole.

Then he did this :lol:


And then this happened
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I would say Afghanistan has hurt Pakistan's reputation more than India. It's very much a border sealed shut situation like Syria is to Turkey. People to people contact should have been stopped in 2002. Took too long to act and now there is a Taliban training school in Peshawar, grown men calling blasphemy on a QR code and PTM and TLP :lol:
 
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