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Dealing Terrorism: Imran Way VS Najem Sethi Way
Posted on October 19, 2012
Bashing Imran Khan is not an old fashion. After 30 October Lahore Jalsa, Urdu press and before the 30 October Our English press this is still following this “trend”. This bashing multiplied when ever Imran Khan speak against drones or war on terror.
Rather than understanding Imran Khan views, Imran Khan Haters always pick few lines of Imran Khan statement and start writing a blog/Op-ed. Without checking Imran Khan whole explanation, the themselves draw the conclusion that Imran Khan is confused.
The repeated points mentioned by these PTI haters are:
Imran Khan talk about peace, but Government already did more than 30 peace agreement, all were failed.
Imran Khan talks about negotiations with Terrorists, But see we did negotiations in Swat but failed to get peace.
Imran Khan talks about about stopping the drones, but see drones is not the reason of attacking Malala.
Imran Khan is against operation, than should we allow the militants to take over the country?
The 1st line of these above arguments are based on Imran Khan statements, but the later conclusion is based on PTI haters own explanations.
A Joke for these people from Shafiq Ur Rehman wirting
ھمارے استاد ہم سے سوال پوچتھے تھے پھر ہماری بجائے خود ہی اس کا جواب دیتے تھے اور پھر اس جواب غلط ہونے پے ہم کو ڈانٹنے تھے :
Rather than understanding Imran answer, they themselve answer the question and than bash imran khan that his answer are wrong.
Stopping drones, Negotiations, and peace deals all are part of one plan, these are not plan individually.
In last 10 years the complete plan of Imran Khan was never followed by any government. So following Imran`s half statement or half proposals, does not prove that you are following his plan but only that part of the plan which suit you. So people must stop blaming Imran Khan for the failure of their plan.
Imran Khan about Talban (Pakistani talban,TTP):
In Khuram Shazada Progamme, Imran Khan explain his view about TTP:
According to Imran Khan,TTP(Pakistani talban) have four group of people.
1. Who want to their laws in Pakistan with the help of weapons.
2. Criminals
3. Those tribals whose innocents family members are killed in drones & army operations.
4. Those who thing Pakistan army is fighting american (infidel war), so attacking on Pakistani army or government is Jehad.
Imran`s Solution:
1. Come out of this US-War (Stop drones attack, Drone is now symbol of american war)
2. Win the heart of Tribal with peace.
3. Than Give peace a chance.
4. If people still not obey Pakistan`s constitution use force(Using police force against locals is successful than using military ).
Imran`s Way:
When we come out of the american war, we see that effect on militancy in two way. Last two groups (among four group mentioned above) will stop their fighting. With the peace and dialogue not only they will stop anti-state activities, they will also help the government in handling the above two groups and they will claim their land back from the militants.
This simple step decrease the power of militancy to 1/4 than the current, as the last two groups (mentioned above) not only leave militant, they will also support government to handle the anti-state militants.
Through this way,you will easily handle those militants but also bring peace in tribal areas. Imran plan is not pro-Talban, its pro-Pakistan plan to end to militancy with less power and less loss.
Najem Sethi, mentioned the anti-imran way todoay in his TFT Editorial . So here is the reply of Najem Sethi Points
Najem Sethi`s Editorial: No Turning Point:
This have full of twisting facts and Najem sethi`s personal explanation and off course bashing imran khan.
1. It is wrong to say that the Taliban are a product of US intervention in Afghanistan, but a product of the civil war in Afghanistan.
Twisted fact. Mr Najem Sethi forget to mention than in 1990s civil war, america was the key player. He used his power & weapons in this war. We can not give free chit to america for that civil war. Najem mentioned Osama Bin London, but did not mentioned where he came from? Who “create a mujahid” from business from him.. It was America, Mr Sethi.
2. Taliban are a blowback consequence of American drone attacks
Drone is symbol of american war. These Pakistani talban are no where before our involvement of american war. Even if still you insist that these Talban are same as afghanistan talban, where were they before 9/11?Why there was no attack in Pakistan by them during 90s?
3.It is wrong to say that the drones exact huge civilian casualties.
Fact is, No one exactly know that who are the victims of drone. One intentional search says 98 % militants, same time another search says 98% were civilians. Imran Khan demand before the Peace march to government was to disclose the names of drone victims.
4. It is wrong that If Pakistan can somehow stop the drones the Taliban will stop waging war.
This is self explanation of PTI-haters & liberals journalists. Fact is, if you stop involving american war, you will able to cut the power of militants to 1/4(as mentioned above in Imran`s way). With 1/4 either will come to peace, or it will be easy to handle them, and ultimately you will able to stop those attacks.
5.The truth is that the Taliban appeared in 1995 and the drones in 2004.
It also truth no attack from “talban” in Pakistan from 1995 to 9/11. Our fake liberals usually twist Imran views by saying “drone attack”.(According to Imran drone is symbol of american war, stopping the drone should be consider as stopping the involvement of american war)
6. The truth is that the Taliban violated Pakistan’s sovereignty…, military approved of both safe havens for the Taliban and the American drone strikes against them.
The point is it Pakistan duty to control this area. If talban violate the Pakistan`s sovereignty, it does not mean we allow others to do the same. Best way to handle taliban by yourself. Its government (civil + Military) duty to handle them, but rather than stopping one group they allowing the othter too to do the same.
7. Major General Ghayur, a spokesman of the Pakistan Army, claimed in 2011, that the drones exact more military than civilian casualties.
Strange, you trust on a General statement? You should also believe that General Kiyani statement too that there is no operation in Balochistan… But you did not trust on that. (1st time Najem is satisfy with a general views, because its pro-american approach ?)
8. The truth is that we have cobbled four major and nine minor peace deals with TTP since 2004.
We left american war during any of that deal time? NO. Drones stoped, NO. (1st drone itself broke the 1st peace deal). Without leaving the american war, you can not win the hearts of tribals. So do not blame Imran Kahn for these failure.
9.Karachi and Balochistan are very different from those in FATA,as Imran Khan can still have political rallies in the city,but not in wazirstan.
Happy to see the how Najem Sethi reduced “FATA” to Waziristan “only”. Imran did Jalsa in Tank during the march, which is a part of FATA area. TTP is in swat too, Malala was attacked in Swat, but PTI did a huge Jalsa even without Imran Khan. Plus, If going some one in some area is problem that for your memory, Imran Khan banned for entering Sindh for four times.
About Balochistan vs TTP, Sethi sab, Read your own editorial about Balochistan. You even claimed that India is involve in Balochistan against Political settlement, and you made Akter Mangel as the only representative of Balochistan in this editorial, if it is true than why you went london for haiyrbyar interview?
TTP vs BLA, Which one is more dangerous? A group fighting against the constitution or the other group which is fighting against the constitution with the help of foreign country?
10.It is wrong to argue that “true liberals” do not ever advocate war and Pakistani liberals are “fascists” for doing so.Pakistani liberals support military action against the Taliban because they are a mortal existential threat to Pakistan
True liberals are even against the capital punishment of death penalty, on the other hand our liberals support death even without trail(drone issue). Wrote for raymond davis (If a law give immunity to diplomats to kill others, a true liberal must oppose that). Similarly about military operation, you people even bash others as a “talban khan” if he disagree with opinion. You bashed him, make jokes about him and make cartoons in your papers, even he openly condemned those brutal acts. Sethi shab, Its not game of liberalism,its game of american interest!
11.It is wrong to say that the Malala incident is a conspiracy by the West to push Pakistan into military operations against the Taliban
Malala was attacked in Swat by TTP having main power in South Waziristan & Afghanistan area.. In this case if some one demand North waziristan operation,which has no link with this incident,than if is not a conspiracy, than its stupidity.
12. Lack of factual knowledge and a blind belief in America as the root cause of all our problems are…..
Its a fact, there was no such suicide attacks,nor attacks on girls & schools, Pakistan security condition was not so worst before the phone call of “either you are with us, and against us”. From than we joined them, we are facing these current problems. America that warning was the route cause of our current problems.
About knowing facts, even one “analyst” Feisal Naqvi believe Pakistan & Afghanistan talban are different, & bash Imran Khan.
And Ayesha Siddiqa says both are same & bash Imran Khan Like feisal.
Who is not clear about fact? They are clear to Bash Imran khan only.
Some Short replies of Others arguments:
Drone them all so that Malala can live: Wrong, as hundreds of Drone could not save Malala.
Operation in North waziristan: “Talban” of North Waziristan are not attacking on Pakistan forces and people of Pakistan. This operation is like one person is fighting with 10 persons, fail to control them. While fighting with them you suggest that go and fight with other 5 persons who were not fighting with you…. So this solution suggest, you can not control 10, go and fight with 15.
Sri Lanka war against Tamil:
Sri Lanka able to control tamil in 40 years, so we will have to fight with Taliban till they end, it may take 20,30years more.
But Sri Lanka only issue was tamil. But over issue is not taliban only. 1000s killed in Karachi in 2012 only, Balochistan is burning. Under such condition, we can not start another operation.
thts the crap which PTI tries to shine always, now bring IMRAN,s statement against TTps idealogy & its terrorism ?
its kind of funny argument itself , that according to imran! talibans hve 4 groups!
was imran was a part of TALIBANS tht he knows them & these groups?
TTp have only 1 group , so now where is IMRAN,s statement against TTP ?
bring it or dont argue?
i want to see a clear statment of IMRAN against TTp , no turns & dam twists!
