Taliban unveil new rules banning women in TV dramas

[Dreamer.]

not that I agree with you but I appreciate you being honest & open about what you believe in & seem to practice, read your holy book

We are all human beings and as a result we are all sinners. NOBODY is perfect. And me, I am just an average muslim who has a lot of faults. HOWEVER, in my view any muslim who does not believe in the basic teachings of Islam and chooses to mock them is nothing more than a Hypocrite.

One can lack in practice and they can still hope for forgiveness since as humans we are all weak, but one can't lack in belief and still remain a muslim. I can't understand any muslim ever not wanting to see Islam prevail and not be a supporter of real Islamic values.

There is a famous Hadith of our Prophet (PBUH) which defines three stages of Iman and what even a weakest muslim must do in presence of wrongs in society. I do not need to relate the entire Hadith here at all. Anyone who was raised as a muslim already knows it. So what can one say for those who are at the 4th stage?

 

[Dreamer.]

Not who's domestic issue? Kashmiri hamare phuppi me bete Hain??? Falastin hamey jahaiz mey Mila thaa???

YES & YES. Just because you are an ignorant fool does not change the reality.

Kashmir and Palestine are NOT domestic issues for India and Israel and that's a FACT. Both are OCCUPIERS, who are occupying foreign land that does not belong to their country.

Once again just becuase you are an ignorant fool, it does not change the REALITY.

If we are lions when it comes to what's going on in kashmir and Palestine then why do people like you become mouse whenever it comes to Taliban Afghanistan. Mard bano, ghalat ko ghalat kaho, Allah hum Sab ka hisaab ley ga.

Oh so then the Taliban are indeed Mard. Thanks for acknowledging that.
Kyunke woh to ghalat ko ghalat hi kehte hein na. Whatever the world thinks.

If no outsider should dictate what Afghanistan is doing to it's people then why do we bark at Israel for what it does to Palestinians or what India does to Indian Muslims. That is their domestic issue.

Are the taliban killing their People? (kashmiris are not india's people and palestinians are not israel's just FYI) But Did you forget which thread you are on?

Taliban telling women not to do acting in dramas is killing? What Are you smoking? Are you on Weed or something?

When have you voiced to fight for the rights of the Kurdish and the horrible suffering they have gone at the hands of Turks, Iraqis, and Syrian.

Tab apki ummah chummah "unka domestic issue hai" key neechey Ghus jati hai. Musalman musalman key ooper zulm kare to ankhey apki teri ho jaati Hain.

Kurds and Syrians OK (but in this thread ???), but what "zulm" exactly did the taliban do?
Did they go kill some kurds? When? tell me.

Stop being a munafiq. Allah is your judge and my judge. And munafiqeens will be in the lowest part of jahannam my brother.

If you know this then kindly stop being a munafiq. Agreed?




P.S. Just typing roman urdu doesn't prove you are pakistani. You chose a jewish name as your handle hence you were questioned and quite rightly. Why wouldn't you be considered a jew? BTW Many an indian, american, european diplomats, journalists,artists,sportsmen and others have been to many places in pakistan and can speak urdu aswell. That doesn't prove anything either. People on this forum are not so simple FYI. You might be pakistani or not but just saying........

 

[Maula Jatt]

Not who's domestic issue? Kashmiri hamare phuppi me bete Hain??? Falastin hamey jahaiz mey Mila thaa???

If we are lions when it comes to what's going on in kashmir and Palestine then why do people like you become mouse whenever it comes to Taliban Afghanistan. Mard bano, ghalat ko ghalat kaho, Allah hum Sab ka hisaab ley ga.



If no outsider should dictate what Afghanistan is doing to it's people then why do we bark at Israel for what it does to Palestinians or what India does to Indian Muslims. That is their domestic issue.

When have you voiced to fight for the rights of the Kurdish and the horrible suffering they have gone at the hands of Turks, Iraqis, and Syrian.

Tab apki ummah chummah "unka domestic issue hai" key neechey Ghus jati hai. Musalman musalman key ooper zulm kare to ankhey apki teri ho jaati Hain.

Stop being a munafiq. Allah is your judge and my judge. And munafiqeens will be in the lowest part of jahannam my brother.

Damn man relax... You going out out lol . Kashmir is a disputed territory, with others you have an argument
But not on Kashmir unless GOP declares it IB- simple as that

 

[doorstar]

Damn man relax... You going out out lol . Kashmir is a disputed territory, with others you have an argument
But not on Kashmir unless GOP declares it IB- simple as that

it is a dupe ID of a weirdo PDF staff member, can be unhealthy for your membership.

 

[Rollno21]

Hope in a 100 years the talilban will develop their minds and reach the levels to the ones living in the year 800.

 

[American Pakistani]

No, you are claiming that Afghan mullah's action shouldn't be criticized as it's their country their rules, I am simply pointing out the word "their" in this context includes all Afghans, not just one holding guns and willing to kill for their twisted belives.



Let me come at this argument from a different angle, do you honestly believe if Americans or NATO had used their actual power these Rag tags had the power to stop them? If these are so good and powerful Why are these same Holy warriors begging Americans for Money? Bad Americans left now you are free to run your country so go ahead and run it. Why care what others think?

Well right now whoever is ruling will make rules so no outsider should dictate them how to do.

Second part is simple, US$=Dajjal.

 

[CatSultan]

So men will act as women?
Or they will portray a world with no women?

They might do men in Burka voiced over by a female.

 

[jamahir]

Yes I do hear myself. And I am not going to justify haraam. Sorry not allowed in Islam.

Prove it.

UNO? Are u sure? More like misquote and misleading..

I agree that quite often the UNO is the rubber stamp of NATO but in this case I think we should trust it as the source. But again I ask, why are you supporting the Taliban ?

There is a famous Hadith of our Prophet (PBUH) which defines three stages of Iman and what even a weakest muslim must do in presence of wrongs in society.

1. "Wrongs in society" : The real wrongs in Afghan society are that there are four million homeless people, there are many in food shortage, no scientific employment exists, there is Capitalism, there is oppression against women and instead of the Taliban providing the homeless with high-quality free neighborhoods and enabling a progressive socio-economic system where basic food is provided for free, where Capitalism has ceased to exist and where women have been emancipated, the Taliban idiots impose burqa and "piousness" on the people.

2. Anything from the hadees works should be accepted not as is but only when it passes the test of rationality, logic and sensibility. Ghulam Ahmed Parvez, an Islamic scholar first of undivided India and later of Pakistan had this to say about hadees and the mullahs ( which would include the Taliban too ) :

Parvez was a prominent ‘Quranist’, or an Islamic scholar who insisted that for the Muslims to make progress in the modern world, Islamic thought and laws should be entirely based on the modern interpretations of the Qu’ran and on the complete rejection of the hadith (sayings of the Prophet and his companions based on hearsay and compiled over a 100 years after the Prophet’s demise).

After studying traditional Muslim texts, as well as Sufism, Parvez claimed that almost all hadiths were fabrications by those who wanted Islam to seem like an intolerant faith and by ancient Muslim kings who used these hadiths to give divine legitimacy to their tyrannical rules.

Parvez also insisted that Muslims should spend more time studying the modern sciences instead of wasting their energies on fighting out ancient sectarian conflicts or ignoring the true egalitarian and enlightening spirit of the Qu’ran by indulging in multiple rituals handed down to them by ancient ulema, clerics and compilers of the hadith.

Understandably, Parvez was right away attacked by conservative Islamic scholars and political outfits.

But this didn’t stop famous Muslim philosopher and poet, Muhammad Iqbal, to befriend the young scholar and then introduce him to the future founder of Pakistan, Muhammad Ali Jinnah.

Jinnah appointed Parvez to edit a magazine, Talu-e-Islam. It was set-up to propagate the creation of a separate Muslim country and to also answer the attacks that Jinnah’s All India Muslim League had begun to face from conservative Islamic parties and ulemawho accused the League of being a pseudo-Muslim organisation and Jinnah for being too westernised and ‘lacking correct Islamic behavior.’

Apart from continuing to author books and commentaries on the Qu’ran, Parvez wrote a series of articles in Talu-e-Islam that propagated a more socialistic view of the holy book.

In a series of essays for the magazine he used verses from the Qu’ran, incidents from the faith’s history and insights from the writings of Muhammad Iqbal to claim:

The clergy and conservative ulema have hijacked Islam.

They are agents of the rich people and promoters of uncontrolled Capitalism.

Socialism best enforces Qur’anic dictums on property, justice and distribution of wealth.

Islam’s main mission was the eradication of all injustices and cruelties from society. It was a socio-economic movement, and the Prophet was a leader seeking to put an end to the capitalist exploitation of the Quraysh merchants and the corrupt bureaucracy of Byzantium and Persia.

According to the Qur’an, Muslims have three main responsibilities: seeing, hearing and sensing through the agency of the mind. Consequently, real knowledge is based on empirically verifiable observation, or through the role of science.

Poverty is the punishment of God and deserved by those who ignore science.

In Muslim/Islamic societies, science, as well as agrarian reform should play leading roles in developing an industrialised economy.

A socialist path is a correction of the medieval distortion of Islam through Shari’a.

Please read the rest of that thread OP and the discussion there.

Hope in a 100 years the talilban will develop their minds and reach the levels to the ones living in the year 800.

What do you mean ?

Well right now whoever is ruling will make rules so no outsider should dictate them how to do.

Second part is simple, US$=Dajjal.

You should leave Dajjali USA and depart immediately to the "Islamic" Republic of Afghanistan to advise your beloved Talibs on how to impose "piousness" on the Afghans even more.

Sir, in which Ahadith of the Rasullah SAW or which Surah of the Q'uran does it say that men are allowed to be in dramas and women are not????

Dreamer won't be able to prove it.

only someone like you would think that they are mard. the taliban openly admitted that they sold opium in order to finance their "JIHAD" hahahahahahaha chars baych key Islami Jihad finance karna sirf taliban hi kar saktey hain. unke liye halal hai apkey dimagh mey

Indeed.

Intolerance. Even i dont agree with their attire but tgen who i am to object to what others wear. If i start expressing my hate for every other thing i see in daily life there wont be many people in the room. I respect boundaries of other people and their personal choices.

Nice that you don't agree with the burqa but when a group ( say the Taliban or the Deobandis in India ) is wrong and it is imposing injustice and an irrational attire on a population ( the women ) then that group has to be called out. More than a decade ago the regressive all-burqa group in India-administered Kashmir called Dukhtaraan-e-Millat headed by Asiya Andrabi announced that the group will throw acid on the faces of Kashmiri women who don't wear the burqa including face cover. This female leader even wears gloves so that her hands are hidden from men. Isn't this nonsense ? Shouldn't this female be arrested and punished severely ? Though Kashmir nowadays seems to have been cured of such criminals there has been still a residual effect like the happening some years ago of an all-female music band called Pragaash having been forced to close down because Kashmiri mullahs declared it unIslamic, like Zarvan and Dreamer are doing in this thread, and these girls received rape threats and death threats just like the Hindutvadis send out such threats to the women they are targeting. But nice that the girls also received support including in Kashmir by the progressives there.

 

[Zarvan]

Prove it.



I agree that quite often the UNO is the rubber stamp of NATO but in this case I think we should trust it as the source. But again I ask, why are you supporting the Taliban ?



1. "Wrongs in society" : The real wrongs in Afghan society are that there are four million homeless people, there are many in food shortage, no scientific employment exists, there is Capitalism, there is oppression against women and instead of the Taliban providing the homeless with high-quality free neighborhoods and enabling a progressive socio-economic system where basic food is provided for free, where Capitalism has ceased to exist and where women have been emancipated, the Taliban idiots impose burqa and "piousness" on the people.

2. Anything from the hadees works should be accepted not as is but only when it passes the test of rationality, logic and sensibility. Ghulam Ahmed Parvez, an Islamic scholar first of undivided India and later of Pakistan had this to say about hadees and the mullahs ( which would include the Taliban too ) :

Please read the rest of that thread OP and the discussion there.



What do you mean ?



You should leave Dajjali USA and depart immediately to the "Islamic" Republic of Afghanistan to advise your beloved Talibs on how to impose "piousness" on the Afghans even more.



Dreamer won't be able to prove it.



Indeed.



Nice that you don't agree with the burqa but when a group ( say the Taliban or the Deobandis in India ) is wrong and it is imposing injustice and an irrational attire on a population ( the women ) then that group has to be called out. More than a decade ago the regressive all-burqa group in India-administered Kashmir called Dukhtaraan-e-Millat headed by Asiya Andrabi announced that the group will throw acid on the faces of Kashmiri women who don't wear the burqa including face cover. This female leader even wears gloves so that her hands are hidden from men. Isn't this nonsense ? Shouldn't this female be arrested and punished severely ? Though Kashmir nowadays seems to have been cured of such criminals there has been still a residual effect like the happening some years ago of an all-female music band called Pragaash having been forced to close down because Kashmiri mullahs declared it unIslamic, like Zarvan and Dreamer are doing in this thread, and these girls received rape threats and death threats just like the Hindutvadis send out such threats to the women they are targeting. But nice that the girls also received support including in Kashmir by the progressives there.

Contact me on twitter or facebook I would prove it in detail. I would have to quote Quran and Hadith which is not allowed on this forum.

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[jamahir]

Contact me on twitter or facebook I would prove it in detail. I would have to quote Quran and Hadith which is not allowed on this forum.

Zarwan Ali (@ali_zarwan) / Twitter
Zarvan Ali | Facebook

1. I know your your Twitter account but I am not on Twitter or FB so you will have to make your points here, but do it in a way that can be acceptable to forum administration. In fact @revol had entire threads on Quran quotations.

2. About hadees please again read my previous post.

 

[Pandora]

Prove it.



I agree that quite often the UNO is the rubber stamp of NATO but in this case I think we should trust it as the source. But again I ask, why are you supporting the Taliban ?



1. "Wrongs in society" : The real wrongs in Afghan society are that there are four million homeless people, there are many in food shortage, no scientific employment exists, there is Capitalism, there is oppression against women and instead of the Taliban providing the homeless with high-quality free neighborhoods and enabling a progressive socio-economic system where basic food is provided for free, where Capitalism has ceased to exist and where women have been emancipated, the Taliban idiots impose burqa and "piousness" on the people.

2. Anything from the hadees works should be accepted not as is but only when it passes the test of rationality, logic and sensibility. Ghulam Ahmed Parvez, an Islamic scholar first of undivided India and later of Pakistan had this to say about hadees and the mullahs ( which would include the Taliban too ) :

Please read the rest of that thread OP and the discussion there.



What do you mean ?



You should leave Dajjali USA and depart immediately to the "Islamic" Republic of Afghanistan to advise your beloved Talibs on how to impose "piousness" on the Afghans even more.



Dreamer won't be able to prove it.



Indeed.



Nice that you don't agree with the burqa but when a group ( say the Taliban or the Deobandis in India ) is wrong and it is imposing injustice and an irrational attire on a population ( the women ) then that group has to be called out. More than a decade ago the regressive all-burqa group in India-administered Kashmir called Dukhtaraan-e-Millat headed by Asiya Andrabi announced that the group will throw acid on the faces of Kashmiri women who don't wear the burqa including face cover. This female leader even wears gloves so that her hands are hidden from men. Isn't this nonsense ? Shouldn't this female be arrested and punished severely ? Though Kashmir nowadays seems to have been cured of such criminals there has been still a residual effect like the happening some years ago of an all-female music band called Pragaash having been forced to close down because Kashmiri mullahs declared it unIslamic, like Zarvan and Dreamer are doing in this thread, and these girls received rape threats and death threats just like the Hindutvadis send out such threats to the women they are targeting. But nice that the girls also received support including in Kashmir by the progressives there.

Like i said you cant make everyone agree to your version. Zavran and other simply have a different ideological mind set and not every one has to agree with them. Here in Pakistan every molvi preaches his own version of Islam so one simply has to decide right or wrong by themselves. In our area there are two brelavi mosques one wahabi and one shia mosque. All four mosques are in competition with each other as if they are a commercial enterprise trying to maximise their profits. In such a world one always has to use their own judgement and do their own research. Sometimes people dont shy away from presenting fake hadiths and even fake verses of Quran. I have caught many doing such acts.

 

[Dreamer.]

Kashmir and Palestine are NOT domestic issues for India and Israel and that's a FACT. Both are OCCUPIERS, who are occupying foreign land that does not belong to their country.

i absolutely agree, they are occupying land and the people of that land against their will. therefore they are considered occupiers.

Thank you for admitting this and thank you for admitting that you were wrong in your earlier posts.

but tell me this, Turkey, Iraq, Iran and Syria are occupying Kurdish lands, with the exception of Iran, who have treated Kurds well and have respected the Kurdish culture and traditions, the arabs and the turks have for decades suppressed the kurds, suppressed their culture, their traditions, their way fo life, and even their language and have arrested and murdered tens of thousands of kurds mercilessly. Kurdish people have been arrested and jailed in the past for speaking their own language in their homes. they were forced to change their names to turkish and Arabic names in order to make them more Turkified in Turkey, and more Arabized in Syria and Iraq. but i don't see you or any other munafiq on this forum fighting for the rights and freedom of the Kurdish people. the Kurdish people never wanted to be apart of Turkey, Syria, and Iraq. they want freedom but you're too much of a munafiq to dare to talk about their freedom from the occupiers.

You cannot call me a munaafiq, but I CAN call you one. That is because of your wrong and contradictory stance in your earlier posts. YOU however won't find any contradiction in my posts so sorry kid you do not get to play that card with me. I may have many faults but Alhamdulillah I am no munafiq.

But since you are a kid, i'll do you one favour. In that paragraph I quoted above you have just sabotaged your own stance that you have been propagating in last few posts. Not just previous posts but the quoted paragraph included is itself contradictory and sabotages your entire stance & thesis. Can you figure out how? Maybe then you'll avoid such rookie mistakes in the future.

Oh so then the Taliban are indeed Mard. Thanks for acknowledging that.
Kyunke woh to ghalat ko ghalat hi kehte hein na. Whatever the world thinks.

only someone like you would think that they are mard. the taliban openly admitted that they sold opium in order to finance their "JIHAD" hahahahahahaha chars baych key Islami Jihad finance karna sirf taliban hi kar saktey hain. unke liye halal hai apkey dimagh mey

Listen Kid, if you knew anything about the taliban and thier history you would know that they literally eliminated opium from aghanistan in thier previous government. My advise for you is try to first understand the subjects that you are talking about.

Kashmiri are not india's people and Palestinians are not Israel's people, we can both agree on that.

Thanks again for agreeing and admitting you were wrong earlier.

but what about Indian Muslims, why do people like you get a stick up their arse whenever a mosque is torn down in India,

We have a right to raise our voice against injustices against indian muslims because that is NOT a domestic issue. Neither is treatent of Uighurs a domestic issue of china, and you can apply this to other countries.

BUT ONCE AGAIN did you forget what was being discussed in this thread??? The rules for television etc. by taliban is INDEED A DOMESTIC ISSUE.
If a stupid kid like you can not understand what is a domestice issue and what is not than you should stop participating on forums and first go and get an education about the basics and then come back.

but people like you remain silent when uzbekistan and Tajikistan banned the construction of mosques that were not in line with their secular teachings and tore down illegally built mosques and forcefully prevented anyone under the age of 18 to go and attend the Masjid. tab to tum bayghairat log chup they
why do people like you remain silent when the president of turkmenistan " Turkmenbashy" destroyed all the mosques that refused to place his autobiographical book "Ruhnama" on the same position as the Holy Quran and to display the Ruhnama as prominently as the Quran and forced the Imams to cite its passages during sermons. tab to tum bayghairat log chup they
why do people like you get raged up when Israel banned Burqa in public places but munafiqeen like you turned your backs when Morroco, Uzbekistan, and Tajikistan, also banned the burqa in their country. at that time people like you said "it's their country, their rules" tab to tum bayghairat log chup they

i can go on and on to expose your munafiqyat.

People 'like me' do not remain silent on these things and we call out each such action as being unislamic. We do not always have to do this on this forum, since this forum is not the world. So it is only Bayghayrat's LIKE YOU who are selective in who they criticize. People like you who get hurt whenever they see any islamic thing prevailing anywhere.

And should I tell you what is the reason for your byaghayrati & Selectiveness? Do you have the stomach to hear that?

Taliban telling women not to do acting in dramas is killing? What Are you smoking? Are you on Weed or something?

Sir, in which Ahadith of the Rasullah SAW or which Surah of the Q'uran does it say that men are allowed to be in dramas and women are not????

What I asked you was, Is it killing to ban women from acting? Did you answer that? Are you still on weed?

Kurds and Syrians OK (but in this thread ???), but what "zulm" exactly did the taliban do?
Did they go kill some kurds? When? tell me.

why not in this thread? are they not Muslims? is this forum only to expose the hindu bakht and their oppression of Muslims? are we supposed to turn a blind eye when our own Muslims brothers kill other Muslims only because they are different in culture, language, or Fiqh or Aqidah or Madhab???? tab to aap log boltain hain, unka mulk unki marzi

Because Mr. Idiot threads have topics. Feel free to go open a thread about syria ,turkmenistan etc. in the relevant section. The point is that your argument is not valid because nobody said here that killing muslims is ok. Your arguments about kurds syrians or whatever have no bearing at all on this thread's subject.

unlike you sir, i'm not blind munafiq,

So far in this discussion it seems only you are.

Allah has given me eyes to see and intellect to contemplate.

Sadly your posts show this is not yet the case.

 

[Dreamer.]

Contact me on twitter or facebook I would prove it in detail. I would have to quote Quran and Hadith which is not allowed on this forum.

Zarwan Ali (@ali_zarwan) / Twitter
Zarvan Ali | Facebook

One should quote Quran and Hadith where it is relevant and needed but you can ignore jamahir. He's not worth that discussion.

Dreamer won't be able to prove it.

I can prove my own stance quite easily FYI. News for your types however is that I do not need to prove anyone else's stance.

Rest of your post Ignored with a BIG *YAWN*.

 

[Apollon]

What kind of movies will this be?

 

[El Sidd]

What kind of movies will this be?

Depicting Greek tragedies.