Taliban fire in air to scatter hundreds of protesters in Kabul

[Muhammed45]

Guy, we are Hosting millions of Afghans, why are you posting things so emotionally?

My sole concern is gathering of terrorist elements in Kabul such as Al-Qaeda leaders. This will cause major problems in our Neighborhood. We have to wait and see what happens in the end. We may see a coalition of Afghan neighboring countries taking the necessary measures to counter possible terror activities in Afghanistan.

If Taliban supports Al Qaeda elements in Afghanistan then it will hit back at themself don't forget those terror elements never spare anyone and Turks experienced it well with their flesh and blood in Syrian Neighborhood. It will also harm Pakistani reputation in the region. However we have seen in the past Groups like TTP never spared Pakistanis.

Currently, Iran Uzbekistan Turkmeniatan Tajikistan have expressed their concern about Al Qaeda presence in Kabul. Must wait and see the outcome. India is the spoiler, i don't really care about what they have to say since they will always look for a way to harm Pakistanis no matter how where and when.

 

[Xestan]

apni auqat men rehti pehlay hi!

I've decided to stay away from misogynists, so I wont kill any braincells on you.

 

[Path-Finder]

Shame on them ! Supporting those who oppress their own kind.

And you should get the Jamia Hafsa in Pakistan to march in support of the TTP too.

you know what they want and require?

 

[jamahir]

you know what they want and require?

Which ones ? The Afghani burqas or the Jamia Hafsa burqas ?

And why did you thank SD 10's idiotic post ?

 

[Xestan]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1435563405662883840

So did Afghanistan import from us these Jamia Hafsa types, or it's the other way round?

 

[Rafi]

Guy, we are Hosting millions of Afghans, why are you posting things so emotionally?

My sole concern is gathering of terrorist elements in Kabul such as Al-Qaeda leaders. This will cause major problems in our Neighborhood. We have to wait and see what happens in the end. We may see a coalition of Afghan neighboring countries taking the necessary measures to counter possible terror activities in Afghanistan.

If Taliban supports Al Qaeda elements in Afghanistan then it will hit back at themself don't forget those terror elements never spare anyone and Turks experienced it well with their flesh and blood in Syrian Neighborhood. It will also harm Pakistani reputation in the region. However we have seen in the past Groups like TTP never spared Pakistanis.

Currently, Iran Uzbekistan Turkmeniatan Tajikistan have expressed their concern about Al Qaeda presence in Kabul. Must wait and see the outcome. India is the spoiler, i don't really care about what they have to say since they will always look for a way to harm Pakistanis no matter how where and when.

All the neighbours will cooperate with the tabs as long as they keep to the promises they made regarding control and elimination of militants.

 

[Path-Finder]

Which ones ? The Afghani burqas or the Jamia Hafsa burqas ?

why are you interfering in what they want? why are your knickers in a twist? if they don't agree with your views does that give you the right to start a tirade?

And why did you thank SD 10's idiotic post ?

what post

So did Afghanistan import from us these Jamia Hafsa types, or it's the other way round?

their country their problem. their demands their rights.

 

[Areesh]

We've seen pictures from two demonstrations. One which took place in Tehran gathering some 15 people, in other terms not something worth mentioning at all. And a second fairly large one in Mashhad, composed of Afghan refugees.

As for Iranian authorities allowing them to demonstrate:

1) This does not necessarily imply that the Iranian government is agreeing with their position. Protests against the government are regularly organized in Iran, and are tolerated so long as they remain peaceful.

2) What is Iran expected to do? I don't think it should repress them. Neither would Pakistan proceed in such a manner I believe. After all Iran also needs to accommodate its Afghan immigrant communities.

3) The Iranian political system is a pluralistic religious democracy rather than a monolithic regime. As indicated in other threads, there are two competing views on Afghanistan among the Iranian establishment: revolutionaries and IRGC have been working towards normalized relations with the Taleban, whilst reformists and moderates (ie liberals) have gone into overdrive criticizing the former for their approach and advocating action against the Taleban (if interested, I can provide concrete examples and links). Afghan protestors in Iran may have been backed by some influential liberals, but this doesn't mean their demands are being endorsed by the revolutionary camp and the IRGC, which at this time have the upper hand on Iran's foreign policy.




The above echoes propaganda published by certain media linked to the Afghan vassal regime which the Taleban just overthrew (such as ToloNews etc). Said propaganda campaign intends to harm brotherly ties between the two neighboring nations of Iran and Afghanistan, and it is enjoying active backing from the US and other NATO regimes conducting their usual "divide and rule" policies. I am certain that the same Afghan media have targeted Pakistan in a similar fashion.

Some 40.000 Afghan nationals are studying at Iranian universities as we speak, children of Afghan immigrants - even undocumented ones - are receiving free education at public schools, and most Iranians consider Afghans as their own kin.

Also many employers in Iran are highly appreciative of Afghan immigrants for their contributions to Iranian society in sectors such as construction, municipal services, domestic work and so on.

Of course, as in every society some elements with xenophobic tendencies can be found in Iran. But this holds equally true of Europe and even Pakistan, where the safety of the Hazara community in Quetta for instance has been compromised in the past by such elements.

Afghans To Get Scholarship And Special Residency In Iran - Iran Front Page

Iran says it is granting scholarships and special residency to top Afghan students and academics.

ifpnews.com

http://www.outlookafghanistan.net/national_detail.php?post_id=24402

https://www.farsnews.ir/en/news/14000609000716/Iran-Grans-Schlarship-Afghan-Sdens

https://www.tehrantimes.com/news/464223/Iranian-university-to-grant-more-scholarships-to-Afghans

Afghan children learn side by side with Iranian peers - Iran (Islamic Republic of)

News and Press Release in English on Iran (Islamic Republic of) and 1 other country about Education and Protection and Human Rights; published on 10 Dec 2019 by UNHCR

reliefweb.int

Parisa, 16 (right), and her sister Parimah, 14, are undocumented Afghans attending school in Esfahan, Iran. © UNHCR/Mohammad Hossein Dehghanian

Finally, I'm still not sure how a topic about a local demonstration in Kabul would turn into a discussion on Iran?

Yeah yeah whatever. I believe in you

 

[jamahir]

what post

#68.

why are you interfering in what they want? why are your knickers in a twist? if they don't agree with your views does that give you the right to start a tirade?

Not every Afghan wants the Taliban. There are brave Afghans, including women, who have come out on the streets and protested against the Taliban. And before the 15th August takeover there were women picking up arms against the Taliban.

And I am a Communist and it is my general concern for anyone anywhere who is oppressed. In this case the women and general progressives in Afghanistan.

 

[Areesh]

#68.



Not every Afghan wants the Taliban. There are brave Afghans, including women, who have come out on the streets and protested against the Taliban. And before the 15th August takeover there were women picking up arms against the Taliban.

And I am a Communist and it is my general concern for anyone anywhere who is oppressed. In this case the women and general progressives in Afghanistan.

Aa gaya communist tharki

 

[Path-Finder]

#68.

Not every Afghan wants the Taliban. There are brave Afghans, including women, who have come out on the streets and protested against the Taliban. And before the 15th August takeover there were women picking up arms against the Taliban.

And I am a Communist and it is my general concern for anyone anywhere who is oppressed. In this case the women and general progressives in Afghanistan.

afghans will decide what they want, how about letting them decide! if they were happy with the so called demagogue then their wouldn't be a taliban.

BUT i can tell you one thing they have 0 interest in teachings of marx and any of its modern itteritations.

 

[jamahir]

Aa gaya communist tharki

Nevertheless I must ask you, are you happy with that Talib caning that girl in post# 68 ?

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OK, sorry.

BUT i can tell you one thing they have 0 interest in teachings of marx and any of its modern itteritations.

Some have, even now :

Solidarity Party of Afghanistan - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

And I am sure those Afghans who don't want the Taliban will prefer the SPA to govern the country.

afghans will decide what they want, how about letting them decide! if they were happy with the so called demagogue then their wouldn't be a taliban.

Both the Taliban government and the previous "democratic" government are Western government insertions into Afghanistan.

Many common Afghan men will simply let the Taliban rule them because of the propaganda and the perception of the Taliban that they are Islam knowers. Hence many common Afghan men will simply fear the Taliban and not challenge them.

 

[Areesh]

Nevertheless I must ask you, are you happy with that Talib caning that girl in post# 68 ?

Yes. Obviously

That talib is based

 

[jamahir]

Yes. Obviously

That talib is based

What does based mean ?

 

[Path-Finder]

Nevertheless I must ask you, are you happy with that Talib caning that girl in post# 68 ?



OK, sorry.



Some have, even now :

Solidarity Party of Afghanistan - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

And I am sure those Afghans who don't want the Taliban will prefer the SPA to govern the country.



Both the Taliban government and the previous "democratic" government are Western government insertions into Afghanistan.

Many common Afghan men will simply let the Taliban rule them because of the propaganda and the perception by the Taliban that they are Islam knowers. Hence many common Afghan men will simply fear the Taliban and not challenge them.

i am not sure how else I can put the view across, no one has been able to tell the afghans what to do. they were taught 20 years of democratic abc. before that the soviets tried socialism too, your kin.

They don't want it. the tiny elite that wants it has moved away to the west. more will do the same. but are all afghans are going to vacate their land? no.

so after two tries in 50 years with two ideologies/doctrine tried on them they have rejected them both.

so let them live as they want.