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i am not sure how else I can put the view across, no one has been able to tell the afghans what to do. they were taught 20 years of democratic abc. before that the soviets tried socialism too, your kin.

They don't want it. the tiny elite that wants it has moved away to the west. more will do the same. but are all afghans are going to vacate their land? no.

so after two tries in 50 years with two ideologies/doctrine tried on them they have rejected them both.

so let them live as they want.

I am sleepy now and not that lucid so I will reply tomorrow.

Go search about it

I will and you said "Yes. Obviously" so you can elaborate it. I will reply tomorrow.
 
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Taliban have barely formed a govt and till now have not targetted anyone. These protesters are fasadi foreign tools. Their handlers actually want them to be massacred, so they can start propaganda.
 
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No need to believe in me, suffice to consult the documents I shared and to ponder the arguments and information I put forth.

No thank you. I had enough of your lies

May be sometime later. Too many lies for now
 
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No thank you. I had enough of your lies

May be sometime later. Too many lies for now

Aha. Care to point me to a "lie" from me? Sadly, you consistently failed to do so. And are still failing, hence why you're compelled to resort to ad hominems. Weak retort to the extensive evidence I posted in this thread.
 
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Aha. Care to point me to a "lie" from me? Sadly, you failed to do so. And are still failing.

Everything you say to defend your country is lie

And the worst part is that you expect others to fall for your lies and don't reject them

May be being a pathological liar is normal in your country. We however don't accept this
 
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Everything you say to defend your country is lie

And the worst part is that you expect others to fall for your lies and don't reject them

Everything I posted is factual. You claim otherwise? No problem, go ahead and show why. That's what a discussion is here for. But chaces are you won't even try to disprove my post, because it is actually completely accurate. In your unfair but insufficiently informed anger against Iran, you even went as far as trusting disinformation relayed by anti-Pakistani, Ghani-regime media. That's unfortunate.
 
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Everything I posted is factual. You claim otherwise? Go ahead and prove it. We both know you can't. In your biased but uninformed anger against Iran, you even go as far as relying on anti-Pakistani Ghani-regime media. Enough said.

I did tried to debate with you proofs thinking you are a reasonable guy

Turned out you are a stubborn liar. Nope. Can't waste my time on a pathological liar

May be in future when you don't turn out to be such a liar. Not now
Thank you.
 
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I did tried to debate with you proofs thinking you are a reasonable guy

Turned out you are a stubborn liar. Nope. Can't waste my time on a pathological liar

Again, where was the "lie"? Don't just issue personal attacks, try at least to justify them. Else they're nothing but gratuitous.

In the previous discussion we had on statements made by the Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesperson, you left without proving your assertion. I demonstrated mine with hard evidence. Your claim was that the spokesman is mentioning Pakistan elsewhere in the conference but you didn't share evidence for this. Upon which I posted the full length conference, where any person can hear that he does not utter the name 'Pakistan' once. That's not called a "lie", it's upright and thorough argumentation backed up by facts.

May be in future when you don't turn out to be such a liar. Not now
Thank you.

Throwing out ad hominems isn't going to validate your argument. You're welcome.
 
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Again, where was the "lie"? Don't just issue personal attacks, try at least to justify them. Else they're nothing but gratuitous.

In the previous discussion we had on statements made by the Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesperson, you left without proving your assertion. I demonstrated mine with hard evidence. Your claim was that the spokesman is mentioning Pakistan elsewhere in the conference but you didn't share evidence for this. Upon which I posted the full length conference, where any person can hear that he does not utter the name 'Pakistan' once. That's not called a "lie", it's upright and thorough argumentation backed up by facts.



Throwing out ad hominems isn't going to validate your argument. You're welcome.

I showed the term Pakistan from two different official news sources of Iran. You tried to defend your country by bringing in weak argument of "shoddy journalism". State affiliated Tehran times posted more anti Pakistan news articles to prove that it was no shoddy journalism and Tehran times comprehensively proved that you were simply lying to defend Iran

I presented official sources. You presented excuses and lied on facts. Should I waste more time on you while you bring in more lies and excuses here too?


I don't think so:)
 
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I showed the term Pakistan from two different official news sources of Iran.

Sources which blatantly misquoted the spokesperson.

You tried to defend your country by bringing in weak argument of "shoddy journalism".

I showed the actual full length news conferences those Tweets were referring to, to prove that the spox had been misquoted by those Tweets.

I wonder if you're following this simple fact?

State affiliated Tehran times posted more anti Pakistan news articles to prove that it was no shoddy journalism

The quote attributed to the Foreign Ministry spox in the Tehran Times Tweet was absolutely inaccurate.

Which is mega easy to verify, because videos of the full length press conference where the spokesman is supposed to have made the statement do exist. And, they prove beyond the shadow of a doubt that he never made that statement.

Which is further corroborated by the fact that on their actual website, Tehran Times quote him correctly, as opposed to their Tweets.

I am responding to your claim here. If you're going to react, try addressing this response rather than running in circles.

and Tehran times comprehensively proved that you were simply lying to defend Iran

Tehran Times was referring to statements made by the spox at a press conference this week.

I posted links to that same press conference in its entirety. Anyone consulting the links will instantly realize that in their Tweet, Tehran Times horribly misquoted the spokesperson.

That's not "lying", it's setting facts straight.

I showed the actual primary source of the event, while you keep referencing Tweets which contain inaccurate quotes from that very event. See the difference?

I presented official sources.

Sorry, but Tehran Times and Tasnim News are not official government sources. IRNA qualifies as such, but not these other media.

You shared two Tweets made by individual journalists citing the spokesperson while brutally distorting his words.

I on the other hand posted links to videos of the actual spokesperson making his declaration. No matter how one tries to spin it, the source I shared is of superior value because it's the primary source, where one can actually see and hear the man talking, as opposed to third parties (inaccurately) relaying his words.

You presented excuses and lied on facts.

On the contrary, I presented links to the full press conference, which prove the spokesperson never made that statement. Nothing to do with "excuses" or "lying".

Should I waste more time on you while you bring in more lies and excuses here too?

I brought definitive, absolute facts debunking your claim.

By the way, you also claimed that the following article here "proves" the spokesperson mentioned Pakistan:
https://en.isna.ir/news/1400061510904/Iran-strongly-condemns-recent-attacks-on-Panjshir

Now, anyone capable of reading will see that this is simply not true. This article, which actually transcribes the spokesman's words correctly, makes it clear he did not utter the name 'Pakistan' at all. Only the journalist asking him the question did. And in his response, the spokesman did not validate the reports about Pakistani intervention in Panjshir. Fact. If I were to follow your example, I would have to call you a "liar" now; however I know you were just too enraged to properly read the paper you submitted.

And here is definitive, ultimate proof: the full length press conference where the spokesman made his statements:


Watch the videos under these links, readers. Tell me where he is claiming that Pakistan intervened in the Panjshir battle. Because he didn't.

I don't think so:)

When I'm insulted for nothing, I shall respond.
 
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