Taiwan will forcefully expel PLA warplanes next time: Tsai Ing-wen

[phancong]

You highly underestimate US resolve and military power at your own peril. Just as the Japanese did.

It will end in your defeat and international humiliation.

US not the only nation fought the Japanese. Don't fooly believe without 2 nukes dropped on Japan that the US can singlehandedly defeat Japanese, both China and Russia also fought Japan in ww2, by defeating japanese troops Russian now occupied northern island still claim by Japanese. Even the freaking Taliban don't fear the mighty US let alone nuclear arm China.

Lol! How humiliating to China.

Chinese planes threatened to be shot down

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US planes welcomed!

Not like China don't have stealth fight jets, nothing special about f22 while China also building the stealth fighter jets, whatever US possess military weapons China will had in their.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

US not the only nation fought the Japanese. Don't fooly believe without 2 nukes dropped on Japan that the US can singlehandedly defeat Japanese, both China and Russia also fought Japan in ww2, by defeating japanese troops Russian now occupied northern island still claim by Japanese. Even the freaking Taliban don't fear the mighty US let alone nuclear arm China.


Not like China don't have stealth fight jets, nothing special about f22 while China also building the stealth fighter jets, whatever US possess military weapons China will had in their.

You have it backwards. We are still baffled why you didn’t take Taiwan back in the 1940’s. Seems you guys are just a little too timid. We just play on that timidness to hold you guys back simply with Psychology...not military force.

 

[LeGenD]

US still 2000 miles take month to sail to the Taiwan strait. If US fully believe by instigate Taiwan independent US will suffer the greatest lost in the history of US warfare. US after 18 yrs still fighting the Taliban wearing sandle and rode on donkey and arm only with ak47, I'm sure US mighty military won't have the capacity to turn Taiwan into the graveyard for Chinese soldiers it maybe the other way around. Don't overestimated US military power, the reality is completely different.

Afghanistan is a different type of war, and Afghan Taliban is an asymmetric force that is deeply rooted in the region. US lost in Afghanistan because the regime it propped up there was not up to the task of rebuilding the country and fixing its problems.

Afghanistan is also geographically landlocked therefore US does not feel comfortable with the prospects of stationing a large force there.

Potential war with China over Taiwan will be of entirely different character in comparison - most likely conventional.

 

[phancong]

You have it backwards. We are still baffled why you didn’t take Taiwan back in the 1940’s. Seems you guys are just a little too timid. We just play on that timidness to hold you guys back simply with Psychology...not military force.

Are you stupid or ignorant? China couldn't take back Taiwan because China didn't have the navy to fight Japan on Taiwan in ww2, doesn't meant China wouldn't fight Japanese on occupation territory when China have the capacity. Taiwan will always be in China territory, Taiwan always be within the arm reach of China, China will always fight the war for how many times or however long China take to fight the war not to cede Taiwan territory to any outsiders.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Are you stupid or ignorant? China couldn't take back Taiwan because China didn't have the navy to fight Japan on Taiwan in ww2, doesn't meant China wouldn't fight Japanese on occupation territory when China have the capacity. Taiwan will always be in China territory, Taiwan always be within the arm reach of China, China will always fight the war for how many times or however long China take to fight the war not to cede Taiwan territory to any outsiders.

Lol! The KMT made it to that island. What’s the matter...500M people can’t row a boat 80 miles and chase after 8M?

 

[phancong]

Afghanistan is a different type of war and Taliban is an asymmetric force which is deeply rooted in parts of Afghanistan and Pakistan. US lost in Afghanistan because the regime it propped up there was not up to the task of rebuilding the country and fixing its problems.

Afghanistan is also geographically landlocked therefore US does not feel comfortable with the prospects of stationing a large force there.

War with China will be of entirely different character in comparison.

Each terrains presented different challenge in it environment. There no place for US ships to hide in the East China Sea, US Navy still need to deploy into Taiwan strait to confront the China navy, US aircrafts launchsite on the US base are well within the reach of China attack from the air, space, Sea, deep sea. Those US forward base won't be safe when China underattack, Taiwan action have the implication that will lead to WW3, tell me will the US risk a WW3 over Taiwan independent aspiration by Taiwan president ambition for reelection to play the independent card for votes? Not a single US population willing to die on behalf of Taiwan. Vietnam war caused of US retreat because of a merely 40 to 50 thousands of US soldiers died and hundreds of billions dollars wasted that weren't in the best interest for the US to continue to fought that war. No population willing to die for an unpopular war.

Lol! The KMT made it to that island. What’s the matter...500M people can’t row a boat 80 miles and chase after 8M?

It irrelevant how KMT reach Taiwan after they lost the Civil war in China.

 

[LeGenD]

Each terrains presented different challenge in it environment. There no place for US ships to hide in the East China Sea, US Navy still need to deploy into Taiwan strait to confront the China navy, US aircrafts launchsite on the US base are well within the reach of China attack from the air, space, Sea, deep sea. Those US forward base won't be safe when China underattack, Taiwan action have the implication that will lead to WW3, tell me will the US risk a WW3 over Taiwan independent aspiration by Taiwan president ambition for reelection to play the independent card for votes? Not a single US population willing to die on behalf of Taiwan. Vietnam war caused of US retreat because of a merely 40 to 50 thousands of US soldiers died and hundreds of billions dollars wasted that weren't in the best interest for the US to continue to fought that war. No population willing to die for an unpopular war.

I see some valid points in your statement. Yes, every war is different, and it is also possible that US is bluffing in regards to Taiwan. But you never know.

What I have gathered from my studies is that US is really good in 'conventional warfare'. And China's attention will be split between Taiwan and US - does not look good in this context to say the least.

I do not think that China will consider nuclear war with US for another entity even if it is Taiwan. China is a sensible country in this respect.

 

[phancong]

I see some valid points in your statement. Yes, every war is different, and it is also possible that US is bluffing in regards to Taiwan. But you never know.

What I have gathered from my studies is that US is really good in 'conventional warfare'. And China's attention will be split between Taiwan and US on top - does not look good.

Like how Singapore former prime minister said how many times can the US intervention on Taiwan to stop China by geological location and the distance between Taiwan and China will grant China advantage of never stopping attack Taiwan.

 

[JonAsad]

China should do a Crimea on Taiwan ..
US and West did shit when Russians annexed Crimea...

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Like how Singapore former prime minister said how many times can the US intervention on Taiwan to stop China by geological location and the distance between Taiwan and China will grant China advantage of never stopping attack Taiwan.

I’m pretty sure that was determined in the 1940’s too but nobody sent you the memo about the D-Day landing details in Europe.

 

[phancong]

I’m pretty sure that was determined in the 1940’s too but nobody sent you the memo.

That how China waited for all these yrs till China has the economy and military capacity for the reunification by force if China need to, .China can always pass on to multiple generations for the reunification if the need arises. China is over 2000 yrs civilization state, China can deal with the problems in a 50 to 100 of yrs time frame.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

That how China waited for all these yrs till China has the economy and military capacity for the reunification by force if China need to, .China can always pass on to multiple generations for the reunification if the need arises. China is over 2000 yrs civilization state, China can deal with the problems in a 50 to 100 of yrs time frame.

Just don’t cry about humiliation. It’s Chinese humiliating Chinese. Right now it is at 70 years.

 

[phancong]

I’m pretty sure that was determined in the 1940’s too but nobody sent you the memo about the D-Day landing details in Europe.

On land the US didn't fight the CCP on behalf of KMT in China because US military knew they would fought a losing war on China territory.

Just don’t cry about humiliation. It’s Chinese humiliating Chinese. Right now it is at 70 years.

Rather Chinese destroyed Taiwan than let Taiwan declare independent.

Just don’t cry about humiliation. It’s Chinese humiliating Chinese. Right now it is at 70 years.

Worse part US build up China economy for China to build up their military to kill US soldiers when US intervention in China affair. The irony of it all, US literally finance China military build up., The joke is on you.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

On land the US didn't fight the CCP on behalf of KMT in China because US military knew they would fought a losing war on China territory.


Rather Chinese destroyed Taiwan than let Taiwan declare independent.


Worse part US build up China economy for China to build up their military to kill US soldiers when US intervention in China affair. The irony of it all, US literally finance China military build up., The joke is on you.

Lol! We didn’t take sides after the war because we had no clear sympathy for either side. If you guys wanted to kill each other we didn’t have a problem with it.

It was only after it was clear Mao favored the Soviets that we started helping the KMT.

 

[phancong]

Lol! We didn’t take sides after the war because we had no clear sympathy for either side. If you guys wanted to kill each other we didn’t have a problem with it.

It was only after it was clear Mao favored the Soviets that we started helping the KMT.

How convenient to deny US didn't take side when whole world know US anti the communist block ever since the communist revolution worldwide. US provide the naval and logistic support for the losing side to retreat to Taiwan.

How convenient to deny US didn't take side when whole world know US anti the communist block ever since the communist revolution worldwide. US provide the naval and logistic support for the losing side to retreat to Taiwan.

Mao is a communist of course he would side with the Soviet Union after the WW2. To told me US only aided the KMT because US finally realized Mao is a communist and the CCP was buddies of the soviet, no one stupid as you to believe in your assertion.