Taiwan fisherman shot dead by Filipino military

[NiceGuy]

why we even talking about this? what superpower? modern states do not annex other recognized states that they have no claims on, vietnam has zero claims on Singapore and even if they tried, a new UN resolution will be passed within 5 hours of the start of the invasion leading to a UN intervention(see gulf war 1) in which case vietnam will be crushed easily, and states like Thailand is hardly in a weak position, Thailand has friends in both china and the US (just see Thailand's military imports). who wants to fight both world power at the same time? try invading Thailand and that's exactly what will happen.

When we attack Thailand from 1979 to 1988, we saw no China-US troops dare to support Thailand.

As u know, We control Cambodian army with many VNese are Cambodian's general,adivisors.During Camb-Thai's border conflict, Camb shelled Thailand badly, we also didnt see US or China dare to help Thailand,too.

Coward and poor trained army like China cant even take back TW until now,so it so embarrassing for a low IQ Chinese like u to bark abt helping another nation

Wanna 'help' another ?show me that u can help urself first.Phil shoot to death a TWese,and we only can see a bunch of big mouth Chinese keyboard warriors barking loudly day by day

It is a little bit side tracking but I hope you don't mine if I put in my 2 cents here.
Singapore is unique, it is a very small country yet it has a very strong army. Its military has a shoot first offensive policy (attack first when any threat arise before it reach its doorstep) and it is well equipped and prepared for it. It keeps good relationship with the western countries and none of them will like it to fall in hostile hands (even possible hostile in the future).
Malaysia needs Singapore's strong shield against threats that may arise across the strait.
USA will love to keep a good relationship with VN, yet it will not like to see a new superpower in Indochina.
China will not tolerate a new superpower in Indochina either.
Both Malaysia and Singapore need Thailand as a buffer zone.

That is why in the coming decade at least, Indochina will be quite stable with the exception of Burma.

We can simply destroy Sing with our ballistic missile scud-D,and Sing cant fight back coz they have no ballistic missile

 

[soaringeagle]

Great, Mr. Nice Guy.
So we all agree that VN is the most powerful, viscous, and aggressive country in the world, and everyone should fear its might.
Happy now?

 

[applesauce]

When we attack Thailand from 1979 to 1988, we saw no China-US troops dare to support Thailand.

As u know, We control Cambodian army with many VNese are Cambodian's general,adivisors.During Camb-Thai's border conflict, Camb shelled Thailand badly, we also didnt see US or China dare to help Thailand,too.

Coward and poor trained army like China cant even take back TW until now,so it so embarrassing for a low IQ Chinese like u to bark abt helping another nation

Wanna 'help' another ?show me that u can help urself first.Phil shoot to death a TWese,and we only can see a bunch of big mouth Chinese keyboard warriors barking loudly day by day

get your facts straight. then again you know the facts but choose to ignore/misrepresent them

Vietnam never directly invaded Thailand, what you describe are border raids because, at the time vietnam invaded Cambodia and Cambodia had camps in Thailand, Thailand needed no "rescue" or "help" because it wasn't ever in danger.

and "Coward and poor trained army like China" ran your country for 1000 years and the "Coward and poor trained army like China" is sitting pretty on islands you claim, why dont your mightily military come do something about it? cant take on the "Coward and poor trained army like China"?

 

[NiceGuy]

get your facts straight. then again you know the facts but choose to ignore/misrepresent them

Vietnam never directly invaded Thailand, what you describe are border raids because, at the time vietnam invaded Cambodia and Cambodia had camps in Thailand, Thailand needed no "rescue" or "help" because it wasn't ever in danger.

and "Coward and poor trained army like China" ran your country for 1000 years and the "Coward and poor trained army like China" is sitting pretty on islands you claim, why dont your mightily military come do something about it? cant take on the "Coward and poor trained army like China"?

Wrong,its not border raid only.we tried to occupy their hills,but unsuccessful coz we didnt have enough support to.keep those hills.

April 20: At southeastern Thailand's Trat Province, some 1,200 Vietnamese troops attacked Thai positions situated 3 to 4 km from the Gulf of Thailand. Instead of withdrawing the Vietnamese set up a permanent base on a hill in Thailand, about a half mile from the border, where they laid mines and built bunkers
Vietnamese border raids in Thailand - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

China only some time occupied our Northen territory,not the hole VN, those ils u took from us are just useless rock with No strategic position. So its fine as long as u cant drill oil there. U cant exploit any thing from our lost territory coz ur army is poor trained and ur soldiers is coward

 

[faithfulguy]

Wrong,its not border raid only.we tried to occupy their hills,but unsuccessful coz we didnt have enough support to.keep those hills.

China only some time occupied our Northen territory,not the hole VN, those ils u took from us are just useless rock with No strategic position. So its fine as long as u cant drill oil there. U cant exploit any thing from our lost territory coz ur army is poor trained and ur soldiers is coward

thanks for sharing with us that Vietnam is a bully and must be contained.

 

[NiceGuy]

thanks for sharing with us that Vietnam is a bully and must be contained.

But US is not powerful like in 90s anymore, and China-US doesnt wanna shake hand to contain VN anymore,too. So, we r free to do what we want,specially when US allow VN.to enrich uranium in our soil(even Japan is not allow to do.that)

New Thai-Camb border conflict is a good test from VN to US-China .you guys still dare not support Thai coz u know our infantry troops is well trained,loyal and brave,its impossible.to be stopped by those poor trained & coward like PLA troops

 

[applesauce]

Wrong,its not border raid only.we tried to occupy their hills,but unsuccessful coz we didnt have enough support to.keep those hills.

since you couldnt actually occupy anything, its a border raid, understand?

and explain why Thailand needs help against vietnam when you yourself admits vietnam couldn't take some hills on the border? like i said Thailand didnt get direct US/china support because it was never in any danger and no help was needed.

China only some time occupied our Northen territory,not the hole VN, those ils u took from us are just useless rock with No strategic position. So its fine as long as u cant drill oil there. U cant exploit any thing from our lost territory coz ur army is poor trained and ur soldiers is coward

right china attack northern vietnam only, so? your soldiers couldnt even stand up to "cowards"?

 

[Malaya]

Taiwan probers review video, inspect Phl vessel
By Edu Punay (The Philippine Star) | Updated May 29, 2013

MANILA, Philippines - A day after their arrival, investigators from Taiwan finished inspecting yesterday the vessel that figured in a deadly confrontation with a Taiwanese fishing boat off Batanes last May 9.

It took the 12 Taiwanese investigators and forensic experts 80 minutes to inspect the vessel MCS 3001, owned by the Bureau of Fisheries and Aquatic Resources (BFAR).

Earlier yesterday, the group – led by Prosecutor Lin Yen Liang and Criminal Investigation Bureau-International Affairs Division chief Simon Lee – watched a two-hour video footage of the incident at the National Bureau of Investigation (NBI) headquarters in Manila.

In Taiwan, a team from the NBI also buckled down to work but was denied its request to perform a re-autopsy on the remains of 65-year-old fisherman Hung Shih-cheng.

NBI foreign liaison division chief Daniel Deganzo heads the NBI team in Taiwan.

They are expected to inspect the Taiwanese fishing vessel, Guang Ta Hsin 28 – currently moored in Kaohshiung port – today.

The NBI team hopes to return to the country on Friday.

Hung was killed after his boat was fired upon by Philippine Coast Guard personnel on MCS 3001 at the Balintang Channel during a brief sea chase. The PCG personnel involved in the incident alleged that Taiwanese vessel Guang Ta Hsin-28 tried to ram their boat.

Commodore Eduardo Gongona, PCG fleet commander, accompanied the Taiwanese investigators during the inspection of the MCS 3001 at Pier 13, South Harbor in Manila. Gongona said the Taiwanese investigators went around MCS 3001 to check its exterior on a rubber boat.

“They inspected where the MCS 3001 was rammed – the scratches that reportedly resulted when their (fishing) vessel hit our ship,” Gongona said.

He said the Taiwanese investigators scraped off paint samples from MCS 3001.

The Taiwanese investigators also went below deck to inspect the armory as well as the gun mount. They also tested the ship’s siren.

“They had a ruler and measured if the firearms would fit in the armory. They also took pictures,” Gongona said.

The PCG earlier submitted 17 long firearms to the NBI.

The group also took a closer look at the deck and the pilothouse.

Gongona said the Taiwanese investigators did not ask them anything about the incident.

“Everything was transparent,” he said, adding that the Taiwanese were “cordial and nice.”

He said the work of the Taiwanese investigators “might be helpful for both sides for the truth to come out.”

‘Almost done’

Andrew Lin, diplomatic officer of the Taiwan Economic and Cultural Office (TECO) who accompanied the Taiwanese team, told reporters the “video is very helpful” but declined to give details.

The Taiwanese investigators and their Filipino counterparts had agreed not to disclose preliminary findings so as not to undermine the progress of the separate but parallel probes.

NBI deputy director for regional operation services Virgilio Mendez said the Taiwanese team had already completed its ballistic examination of the high-powered firearms used, including eight M-16 rifles, six M-14 rifles and a machine gun.

“They’re almost done. The inspection of the vessel, examination of firearms and video showing have been completed,” he said in a separate interview.

Mendez said the Taiwanese are expected to next undertake some “clarificatory” questioning about the video as well as interviews with unnamed PCG personnel involved. The group is also set to interview today the BFAR personnel who witnessed the May 9 incident.

Art Abierra, secretary of the board of the Manila Economic and Cultural Office (MECO), said the Taiwanese hope to finish the interviews today so they can promptly fly home.

In Taiwan, ministry of justice director Chen Wen-Chi said they cannot allow an exhumation of Hung’s remains in deference to the wishes of the victim’s family.

“(Re-autopsy) is not applicable to our domestic rule and of course by the victim’s family,” Chen said in an interview.

But she assured the NBI team they would be provided “relevant documents and report for their inspection.” She declined to give details.

“We can’t force the family to agree to a re-autopsy. The autopsy report is enough to come up with a concrete conclusion,” Justice Secretary Leila de Lima told reporters in reaction to the development.

Taiwan probers review video, inspect Phl vessel | Headlines, News, The Philippine Star | philstar.com

 

[Pinoy]

If Taiwanese entire argument is based on the false premise that Basco, Batan, Sabtang, etc.. islands are a part of Taiwan's imagined EEZ then there is no peaceful solution in site. They want what is not theirs.

The fishing boat turned and tried to ram the coast guard boat. The coast guard then fired warning shots, and when that didn't work, fired on the engine of the ship to disable it.

 

[sdjd2013]

NBI: Philippine coast guards liable » News » thePinoy

http://thepinoy.net/?p=8868

any more questions or doubts?

or will you ignore the findings of your own NBI?

But US is not powerful like in 90s anymore, and China-US doesnt wanna shake hand to contain VN anymore,too. So, we r free to do what we want,specially when US allow VN.to enrich uranium in our soil(even Japan is not allow to do.that)

New Thai-Camb border conflict is a good test from VN to US-China .you guys still dare not support Thai coz u know our infantry troops is well trained,loyal and brave,its impossible.to be stopped by those poor trained & coward like PLA troops

Yeah, sure, you guys are free to enrich uranium. 1) Do you guys know how to convert enriched uranium into nukes? 2) assuming the U.S. allows you (which I seriously doubt, given you guys kiss so much U.S. *** in the last 10 years for money and support to get away from China's shadow), ASEAN will be on you guys like white on rice.

 

[sdjd2013]

p.s., you guys don't have the brains, seeing how majority of viets in the U.S. are into gangbanging with the Mexicans and Blacks.

p.s.s., China today is not like China 30 years ago, but VN is still the same as 30 years ago. So I don't know why you feel so confident. Thailand is much more advanced economically, militarily and a more humane country than VN, who can crush you guys like flies.

p.s.s.s. If VN is so tough, why don't they start send in their navy to South China Seas?

p.s.s.s.s. what good are infantry troops if they are equipped with badly outdated weapons?

 

[sdjd2013]

We do care for them, naturally. However, they have to make sure they don't do anything foolish that affects OUR strategic interests in the region. Their existence depends on our good graces. Their loyalty shall be handsomely rewarded in the form of our military gifts and patronage.

You see, if they stick with us, they'll never go hungry again...

ROFL, this guy is a recruiter for the USN. What amenities do you guys offer for joining? LOLOL. The U.S. is using VN to keep China in check, that is all. VN's infantry is worth **** , and their dilapidated equipment. China will single handedly crush their pathetic army, with or without ASEAN's help. ASEAN can thank China afterwards and scoff off the American pussies, who plays checker games in Asia.

 

[USAHawk785]

p.s., you guys don't have the brains, seeing how majority of viets in the U.S. are into gangbanging with the Mexicans and Blacks.

p.s.s., China today is not like China 30 years ago, but VN is still the same as 30 years ago. So I don't know why you feel so confident. Thailand is much more advanced economically, militarily and a more humane country than VN, who can crush you guys like flies.

p.s.s.s. If VN is so tough, why don't they start send in their navy to South China Seas?

p.s.s.s.s. what good are infantry troops if they are equipped with badly outdated weapons?

They're smart, diplomatically. I admit, the Vietnamese are very strategic mo fos.

ROFL, this guy is a recruiter for the USN. What amenities do you guys offer for joining? LOLOL. The U.S. is using VN to keep China in check, that is all. VN's infantry is worth **** , and their dilapidated equipment. China will single handedly crush their pathetic army, with or without ASEAN's help. ASEAN can thank China afterwards and scoff off the American pussies, who plays checker games in Asia.

Come now, didn't you learn from the 1979 border war? And yes, by all means, do commit war with the Viets, this will be readily used by the United States Armed Forces Committee as pretext to increase military buildup in the Asia-Pacific to deal with the Chinese as deemed fit.

The more you guys struggle, the more we get entrenched in the region.

NBI: Philippine coast guards liable » News » thePinoy

http://thepinoy.net/?p=8868

any more questions or doubts?

or will you ignore the findings of your own NBI?



Yeah, sure, you guys are free to enrich uranium. 1) Do you guys know how to convert enriched uranium into nukes? 2) assuming the U.S. allows you (which I seriously doubt, given you guys kiss so much U.S. *** in the last 10 years for money and support to get away from China's shadow), ASEAN will be on you guys like white on rice.

bwahahahaha @ "white on rice". So its same as curry on chicken tikka? bwahahahaha!

Please you sound like a rice rocket driver...

 

[USAHawk785]

But US is not powerful like in 90s anymore, and China-US doesnt wanna shake hand to contain VN anymore,too. So, we r free to do what we want,specially when US allow VN.to enrich uranium in our soil(even Japan is not allow to do.that)

New Thai-Camb border conflict is a good test from VN to US-China .you guys still dare not support Thai coz u know our infantry troops is well trained,loyal and brave,its impossible.to be stopped by those poor trained & coward like PLA troops

Son,

You need to shut your mouth before you sound like an imbecile. The Thais and Cambodians practiced restraint to preserve ASEAN harmony and regional stability. The Thais are a rather aggressive people and have the means to pulverize the Cambodian Armed Forces by land, sea and air. However, a war that would plunge Phnom Penh into chaos does nothing for regional stability , let alone would target the Thais as the military aggressor.

Their border conflict ended and diplomatic ties were retained. Quite professional and mature for the both of them (the Thais and Cambodians).

 

[USAHawk785]

p.s., you guys don't have the brains, seeing how majority of viets in the U.S. are into gangbanging with the Mexicans and Blacks.

p.s.s., China today is not like China 30 years ago, but VN is still the same as 30 years ago. So I don't know why you feel so confident. Thailand is much more advanced economically, militarily and a more humane country than VN, who can crush you guys like flies.

p.s.s.s. If VN is so tough, why don't they start send in their navy to South China Seas?

p.s.s.s.s. what good are infantry troops if they are equipped with badly outdated weapons?

A war between Thailand and Vietnam would plunge continental South East Asia into conflict and destabilize the region. There is no win-win scenario. Count ASEAN good bye. This is why there will be no war between Thailand and Vietnam.