Taiwan can respond to assassination of unarmed fisherman by the Philippines

[sdjd2013]

Oh, also based on MANY MANY MANY MANY MANY occasions of ARREST of illegal TAIWANESE proachers

it is very safe to say that




1. Taiwanese people DO NOT FOLLOW INTERNATIONAL LAW

2. Taiwanese Government DO NOT EDUCATE her people where to FISH LEGALLY

3. Taiwanese people has LONG HISTORY of violating and NOT respecting other NATIONS SOVEREIGNTY

ENOUGH SAID

Again, you are wrong. Your statements are self-serving. true Taiwanese fisherman have had a history of being arrested by Japan and PH, but those arrests were all made in disputed waters. Taiwan and Japan have reached a fishing agreement where Taiwanese have gained 70,000 sq miles of fishing areas. In the past, Taiwanese have been buying worthless fishing permits from PH only to be revoked at will in order to extort bond money from these poor fisherman.

again, this is all moot, now that Taiwanese will not be fishing in disputed territories, b/c their navy has made sure all disputed areas are now undisputed, unless and until PH come to the table and proposes a fishing agreement. So, please get off your high horse.

 

[jhungary]

do you know how far is 180 nautical miles from southern tip of Taiwan? it's about 160 miles

180 nmi is about 207 miles........not 160...

Also, you may want to tone down the choice of your word(especially the F Bomb), unless you want to take a break from this forum.

As for all you guys, I admire the fact that both side have nothing to do but bicker like a bunch of 12 years old.

If I were to enjoy High School bitchslap fight (Well, this is the exact use of the word), I will sneak in a high school.
It just show you when nationalist movement took over. It can really trash stuff. I cannot believe it gone on for 14 pages without any cool headed discussion

can any one here just let the authority handle this kind of situation? The world have no intention on knowing what individual Taiwanese or Chinese or Filipino want to do about this situation, can you all just please keep it to yourselves?

 

[sdjd2013]

I can't believe the PH govt has turned back the investigation team from Taiwan. PH is playing a dangerous game.

 

[HongWu]

I have heard isolated incidents of harassment and prevalent racial discrimination in Taiwan against Filipinos as a result of the shooting incident, but I can assure you that they are isolated incidents, b/c unlike China Taiwan actually respect human rights.

Taiwan and Philippines do not qualify for human rights. Go ahead and with your little girl fight. When the time comes PLA will crush Republic of Taiwan and take back our formosa island. Manila will be bombed and Philippines split into many statelets.

 

[sdjd2013]

180 nmi is about 207 miles........not 160...

Also, you may want to tone down the choice of your word(especially the F Bomb), unless you want to take a break from this forum.

As for all you guys, I admire the fact that both side have nothing to do but bicker like a bunch of 12 years old.

If I were to enjoy High School bitchslap fight (Well, this is the exact use of the word), I will sneak in a high school.
It just show you when nationalist movement took over. It can really trash stuff. I cannot believe it gone on for 14 pages without any cool headed discussion

can any one here just let the authority handle this kind of situation? The world have no intention on knowing what individual Taiwanese or Chinese or Filipino want to do about this situation, can you all just please keep it to yourselves?

am I in a kindergarten site? I really don't understand people who assert themselves as the all mighty in public forums. Does that make you feel good? do really think I give a **** about what you think about profanity, or being on this site?

Taiwan and Philippines do not qualify for human rights. Go ahead and with your little girl fight. When the time comes PLA will crush Republic of Taiwan and take back our formosa island. Manila will be bombed and Philippines split into many statelets.

and I am sure you will be found in the bottom of the rubbles

 

[jhungary]

am I in a kindergarten site? I really don't understand people who assert themselves as the all mighty in public forums. Does that make you feel good? do really think I give a **** about what you think about profanity, or being on this site?

and I am sure you will be found in the bottom of the rubbles

Well, then I got nothing more to say, rules set here for everyone pleasure, it's not for someone who think they are high and mighty, if you say this, then swearing in this forum does it make you high and all mighty??

This is not a kindergarten forum but people in this thread seems acted more like one

Be ready to take a break and get banned

 

[faithfulguy]

Oh, also based on MANY MANY MANY MANY MANY occasions of ARREST of illegal TAIWANESE proachers

it is very safe to say that:



1. Taiwanese people DO NOT FOLLOW INTERNATIONAL LAW

2. Taiwanese Government DO NOT EDUCATE her people where to FISH LEGALLY

3. Taiwanese people has a LONG HISTORY of violating and NOT respecting other NATION'S SOVEREIGNTY

AND YET THEY BLAME THE PHILIPPINES FOR EVERYTHING


ENOUGH SAID

Just curious, how many Filipino fisherman was murdered in this incident?

 

[sdjd2013]

Meanwhile, the leadership of the US House Subcommittee on Asia and the Pacific called on the Philippines to apologize for the killing by its Coast Guard of the fisherman, punish the perpetrators and compensate the victim’s family.

“A government vessel’s shooting of an unarmed fishing boat is an act of violence and is in violation of international law,” chairman Steve Chabot and ranking member Eni Faleomaveaga said in a joint statement on Wednesday.

“Therefore, we call upon the Philippines to promptly and sincerely respond to the requests of the Taiwan government to apologize, punish the perpetrators, and provide proper compensation to the victim’s family based on humanitarian grounds.” – AP, Aurea Calica, Rudy Santos, Edu Punay, Jose Rodel Clapano, Marvin Sy, Mayen Jaymalin, Jaime Laude, Jose Katigbak (STAR Washington bureau)

Well, then I got nothing more to say, rules set here for everyone pleasure, it's not for someone who think they are high and mighty, if you say this, then swearing in this forum does it make you high and all mighty??

This is not a kindergarten forum but people in this thread seems acted more like one

Be ready to take a break and get banned

if you want to actually take the time to do that, go for it, Mr. Pontiff. The rule applies to everyone but you?

I hope the last article gives some perspective to all the Filipinos defending the murder on the PCG boat.

 

[jhungary]

Meanwhile, the leadership of the US House Subcommittee on Asia and the Pacific called on the Philippines to apologize for the killing by its Coast Guard of the fisherman, punish the perpetrators and compensate the victim’s family.

“A government vessel’s shooting of an unarmed fishing boat is an act of violence and is in violation of international law,” chairman Steve Chabot and ranking member Eni Faleomaveaga said in a joint statement on Wednesday.

“Therefore, we call upon the Philippines to promptly and sincerely respond to the requests of the Taiwan government to apologize, punish the perpetrators, and provide proper compensation to the victim’s family based on humanitarian grounds.” – AP, Aurea Calica, Rudy Santos, Edu Punay, Jose Rodel Clapano, Marvin Sy, Mayen Jaymalin, Jaime Laude, Jose Katigbak (STAR Washington bureau)



if you want to actually take the time to do that, go for it, Mr. Pontiff. The rule applies to everyone but you?

I hope the last article gives some perspective to all the Filipinos defending the murder on the PCG boat.

lol........

I won't need to do it myself, but mods are already doing something as we see the iajj fella got banned. I am pretty sure your post would had been or already did reported.

Rules apply to everyone, but I am not the one who keep using profanity and then tell me to take a hike. I strongly suggested that you read the rules here before coming to post stuff online.

 

[longyi]

Meanwhile, the leadership of the US House Subcommittee on Asia and the Pacific called on the Philippines to apologize for the killing by its Coast Guard of the fisherman, punish the perpetrators and compensate the victim’s family.

“A government vessel’s shooting of an unarmed fishing boat is an act of violence and is in violation of international law,” chairman Steve Chabot and ranking member Eni Faleomaveaga said in a joint statement on Wednesday.

“Therefore, we call upon the Philippines to promptly and sincerely respond to the requests of the Taiwan government to apologize, punish the perpetrators, and provide proper compensation to the victim’s family based on humanitarian grounds.” – AP, Aurea Calica, Rudy Santos, Edu Punay, Jose Rodel Clapano, Marvin Sy, Mayen Jaymalin, Jaime Laude, Jose Katigbak (STAR Washington bureau)



if you want to actually take the time to do that, go for it, Mr. Pontiff. The rule applies to everyone but you?

I hope the last article gives some perspective to all the Filipinos defending the murder on the PCG boat.

He always cries to the mods and quick to use the report button. He even reported me a couple times for calling him a moron.

 

[sdjd2013]

He always cries to the mods and quick to use the report button. He even reported me a couple times for calling him a moron.

lol what a moron

I'd see, you are the self-designated profanity police... tell me something, do you think the rules of this PUBLIC forum trumps the supreme law of the land? the U.S. constitution? You may say the host is not in the U.S., but the site is reachable by the U.S., how about I shut down the whole site for everyone on here, thanks to you. moron.

 

[Pinoy]

Taiwan didn't lie.

According to UNCLOS which gives some rules on the law of the sea ( signed by both Taiwan and the Philippines), territorial waters where the coastal state is free to set laws, regulate use, and use any resource would cover only 12 nautical miles. I haven't calculated the distance from the Balintang Islands myself, but if effectively it is 43 NM, then the location of the incident is out of the territorial water, but inside
the Philippines exclusive economic zone (which is within 200 nm), where the coastal nation has sole exploitation rights over all natural resources. Unfortunately it seems it is also in Taiwan's exclusive economic zone because the two countries are so close, and this created the conflict.

LMAO Taiwan cannot invoke UNCLOS because they are not a signatory to it. They are not even a member of UN.

 

[shuttler]

you and your prejudice on the case. why dismiss the other side's statement that easily? You even haven't seen the video of the incident.(i doubt that it will be made public. i think the taiwanese investigators were allowed to see the video. notice the absence of the clamor for the supposed video evidence ) .

sorry, our justice system is way different from PRC's. We try individuals here to know if he is guilty or not.

I am saying from a legal perspective, regardless of the place
why am I not considering philippines statement? Yes I have considered. The filippino side gives very bad and contradictory statements
the vid will not be publicised. That is what I think. There may be too many alterations to it so it is not reflecting the real situation.
Now the Taiwanese investigators are now in your country, let's see what they can find!

 

[Pinoy]

Well said

The Philippine economy will continue to improve without Taiwan. Nor we need the Chinese poachers and thieves.

Anyway let me also share this interesting article:

Taiwan-Philippine economic exchanges may be deferred: minister - Taiwan News Online

Taiwan-Philippine economic exchanges may be deferred: minister
Central News Agency

Taipei, May 15 (CNA) Taiwan is considering suspending economic exchanges with the Philippines because of its handling of an attack by one of its government vessels on a Taiwanese fishing boat, Economics Minister Chang Chia-juch said Wednesday. If the Philippines does not provide satisfactory responses to Taiwan's demands related to the incident by 6 p.m. Wednesday, Taiwan will impose further sanctions against the Philippines, Chang said at a legislative hearing. Invitations of Philippine officials, subsidies for Philippine buyers to visit Taiwan, and investment solicitation and trade promotion activities could all be suspended or postponed until August at the earliest, the ministry said in a prepared document. The ministry has also stopped encouraging local businesses to invest in the Philippines, Chang said.

More far-reaching economic sanctions, however, could hurt Taiwan more than the Philippines. Bilateral trade between the two countries totaled US$10.97 billion in 2012, with Taiwan showing a US$6.77 billion trade surplus, according to government statistics. The Taipei-based Taiwan Institute of Economic Research cautioned recently that potential economic sanctions against the Philippines would likely have only a limited impact on the Philippine economy. Taiwan was the Philippines' 10th largest investor in 2012, injecting US$58.54 million into the Philippine economy last year, but that only accounted for 0.85 percent of foreign investment in the country. In addition, around 10 million Filipinos work overseas, but only 87,000 of them work in Taiwan, also limiting Taiwan's leverage, said Gordon Sun, director of the institute's macroeconomic forecasting center. "Imposing economic sanctions on the Philippines might not necessarily be in Taiwan's favor, and the Philippine economy might not be hurt as much as we expect," he told CNA on May 13. (By James Lee)

aside from that their action of freeze hiring of OFWs will backfire to them. Their economy actually has slowed down and in one of its lowest state. The only bright prospect is exports of electronics which relies heavily on OFW skilled labor force. Without the OFWs, their economy will be at a standstill. Beyond that their main market is the surging South East Asian economies including the Philippines. So if Taiwan thinks that their action will only affect the Philippines and not them, they are dead wrong. LMAO!

 

[shuttler]

who said the government didn't allow a joint investigation? the TW authorities were here. Is that what you call truth?

did your governmemt first refuse then accept the Taiwanese Team under pressure?

what's the truth? we don't even know it yet. both governments are on the case. The investigations hasn't yet concluded.

it would help if you would listen to others, not just what you want the "truth" should be.

the threat sanctions was new, it did not force us to do the investigation.

if it is not because of sanctions I dont think there is any response from your government
The third sanction is forthcoming. Fasten your seat belts