Taiwan Armed Forces

[Aepsilons]

 

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[Sonyuke_Songpaisan]

Not bad

 

[jhungary]

There are always a way to invade Taiwan if one wanted, but there are no way invasion of Taiwan will be a walk in the park.

The problem is, Taiwan is an Island, does not matter how or what other people said in this forum a few month ago, being an Island Nation mean they have a buffered strategic depth that give you force multiplier effect for the sea lane your country controlled. That erect the first layer of defence.

Traditional wisdom suggest that to attack and overwhelm an Island nation, attacker to defender ratio have to be 5 : 1 (5 Attacker to 1 Defender) if the nation attacking have either air/sea superiority, 3 : 1 if a country have Both, and 10 : 1 if the attacker have none. And right now, China have none.

Another problem with attacking Taiwan is this, even if you can land and overwhelm their garrison, the Taiwanese would simply go underground and fight out a guerrilla warfare with the Chinese, which bring to another problem, since Taiwanese also speaks Mandarin, there are literally no way to distinguish between a Chinese and a Taiwanese if both aren't wearing uniform. That would mean there are no way to root out the guerrilla. Plus most part of Taiwan is hills or mountain terrain. Which mean it is hard to deploy conventional troop in those Area.

Finally, the Military industry literally does not exist in Taiwan at the moment and Taiwan have been heavily rely on Foreign Supplies (Albeit older and outdated weaponry) What if Taiwan decided to develop their weapon industry? They have the capital, means and technology to do that. if that happens, China can literally say goodbye to a Military Solution to recapture Taiwan permanently

 

[Aepsilons]

There are always a way to invade Taiwan if one wanted, but there are no way invasion of Taiwan will be a walk in the park.

The problem is, Taiwan is an Island, does not matter how or what other people said in this forum a few month ago, being an Island Nation mean they have a buffered strategic depth that give you force multiplier effect for the sea lane your country controlled. That erect the first layer of defence.

Traditional wisdom suggest that to attack and overwhelm an Island nation, attacker to defender ratio have to be 5 : 1 (5 Attacker to 1 Defender) if the nation attacking have either air/sea superiority, 3 : 1 if a country have Both, and 10 : 1 if the attacker have none. And right now, China have none.

Another problem with attacking Taiwan is this, even if you can land and overwhelm their garrison, the Taiwanese would simply go underground and fight out a guerrilla warfare with the Chinese, which bring to another problem, since Taiwanese also speaks Mandarin, there are literally no way to distinguish between a Chinese and a Taiwanese if both aren't wearing uniform. That would mean there are no way to root out the guerrilla. Plus most part of Taiwan is hills or mountain terrain. Which mean it is hard to deploy conventional troop in those Area.

Finally, the Military industry literally does not exist in Taiwan at the moment and Taiwan have been heavily rely on Foreign Supplies (Albeit older and outdated weaponry) What if Taiwan decided to develop their weapon industry? They have the capital, means and technology to do that. if that happens, China can literally say goodbye to a Military Solution to recapture Taiwan permanently

@jhungary ,

A very well written piece, permit me to add that any war between the two Chinas could easily involve the United States. Under the 1979 Taiwan Relations Act, official U.S. law stipulates that the United States would view any conflict over Taiwan with "grave concern." The 1995-96 Taiwan Strait crisis showed that the United States does not take its interest in Taiwan's security lightly. A 1995 visit by Taiwanese President Lee Teng-hui to his American alma mater, Cornell University, provoked China to conduct military exercises and fire missiles near Taiwan, leading the United States to send an aircraft carrier through the strait that same December for the first time in seventeen years. In March 1996, the PRC launched more missiles near Taiwan; in response, the United States deployed two carriers in the vicinity as a show of strength. Largely as a result of the 1995-96 crisis, much of the U.S. Congress has lost patience with the existing U.S. policy of strategic ambiguity—by which Washington suggests to both Taipei and Beijing that it might help Taiwan defend itself.

In fact, in regards to the American strategic interest, an independent Taiwan would serve US global initiatives in Asia-Pacific and would indefinitely limit the scope of China's military abilities.

Your view? You think USA will stick to its strategic ambiguity ?

 

[sicsheep]

There are always a way to invade Taiwan if one wanted, but there are no way invasion of Taiwan will be a walk in the park.

The problem is, Taiwan is an Island, does not matter how or what other people said in this forum a few month ago, being an Island Nation mean they have a buffered strategic depth that give you force multiplier effect for the sea lane your country controlled. That erect the first layer of defence.

Traditional wisdom suggest that to attack and overwhelm an Island nation, attacker to defender ratio have to be 5 : 1 (5 Attacker to 1 Defender) if the nation attacking have either air/sea superiority, 3 : 1 if a country have Both, and 10 : 1 if the attacker have none. And right now, China have none.

Another problem with attacking Taiwan is this, even if you can land and overwhelm their garrison, the Taiwanese would simply go underground and fight out a guerrilla warfare with the Chinese, which bring to another problem, since Taiwanese also speaks Mandarin, there are literally no way to distinguish between a Chinese and a Taiwanese if both aren't wearing uniform. That would mean there are no way to root out the guerrilla. Plus most part of Taiwan is hills or mountain terrain. Which mean it is hard to deploy conventional troop in those Area.

Finally, the Military industry literally does not exist in Taiwan at the moment and Taiwan have been heavily rely on Foreign Supplies (Albeit older and outdated weaponry) What if Taiwan decided to develop their weapon industry? They have the capital, means and technology to do that. if that happens, China can literally say goodbye to a Military Solution to recapture Taiwan permanently

islands biggest dis-advantage is they have no strategic depth, their jet will be targeted as soon as they take off by PLA land based and sea based SAM, and that's assuming they still have an airport to take-off from.

The US know its already impossible to keep PLA off the island off Taiwan, they have no choice but to let PLA land, and hope to last until USA send reinforcement. that's why lots of equipment from the latest arms sale are mostly for anti-armor warfare.

 

[Aepsilons]

islands biggest dis-advantage is they have no strategic depth, their jet will be targeted as soon as they take off by PLA land based and sea based SAM, and that's assuming they still have an airport to take-off from.

The US know its already impossible to keep PLA off the island off Taiwan, they have no choice but to let PLA land, and hope to last until USA send reinforcement. that's why lots of equipment from the latest arms sale are mostly for anti-armor warfare.

Two words, buddy: Strategic Ambiguity.

 

[sicsheep]

. In fact, some high level officers of the JSDF were in attendance of the event. It was a solidarity event.

You have some source to back it up? all i found is Japan was invited but refused to attend, (because you know why)

 

[Aepsilons]

Analysts say the Hsiung Feng (Brave Wind) III missile, designed to cruise at a maximum speed of Mach 2.0, or twice the speed of sound, and with a range of up to 130 kilometres (80 miles), is difficult to defend against.

HSIUNG FENG 3; THE CARRIER KILLER.

 

[sicsheep]

Analysts say the Hsiung Feng (Brave Wind) III missile, designed to cruise at a maximum speed of Mach 2.0, or twice the speed of sound, and with a range of up to 130 kilometres (80 miles), is difficult to defend against.

HSIUNG FENG 3; THE CARRIER KILLER.

perfect weapon to cover Diaoyu, wouldn't you say?

 

[Zarvan]

@Technogaianist --- from the grapevine , i hear that in the upcoming months, the Japanese Ground Self Defense Force's Western Army will conduct training operations and training exercises with the Republic of China Army (Taiwan).

Wait for the upcoming developments.

Republic of China Army Parade-----

Name of the beasts shown in last picture ?

 

[jhungary]

@jhungary ,

A very well written piece, permit me to add that any war between the two Chinas could easily involve the United States. Under the 1979 Taiwan Relations Act, official U.S. law stipulates that the United States would view any conflict over Taiwan with "grave concern." The 1995-96 Taiwan Strait crisis showed that the United States does not take its interest in Taiwan's security lightly. A 1995 visit by Taiwanese President Lee Teng-hui to his American alma mater, Cornell University, provoked China to conduct military exercises and fire missiles near Taiwan, leading the United States to send an aircraft carrier through the strait that same December for the first time in seventeen years. In March 1996, the PRC launched more missiles near Taiwan; in response, the United States deployed two carriers in the vicinity as a show of strength. Largely as a result of the 1995-96 crisis, much of the U.S. Congress has lost patience with the existing U.S. policy of strategic ambiguity—by which Washington suggests to both Taipei and Beijing that it might help Taiwan defend itself.

In fact, in regards to the American strategic interest, an independent Taiwan would serve US global initiatives in Asia-Pacific and would indefinitely limit the scope of China's military abilities.

Your view? You think USA will stick to its strategic ambiguity ?

The current status quo work best for the US, and the US will do almost EVERYTHING to keep this equilibrium.

That mean they will look to protect Taiwan from being occupied and invaded by China or Pro-Chinese Force, on the other hand the US would also do what they can to silence the Pro-Independence Taiwan. Simply because it would mean bad business if the situation go either way.

It is quite interesting to know it was the US who actually inhibit the Taiwanese Military Complex to develop for 1.) That would mean losing business. 2.) That would give Taiwan immense power to change the equation. However, with the Chinese Rise and yet again China eyes on Militarily action on the Area, this maybe something US willing to let go in order to increase the regional stability and put the equation back into balance.

About The Taiwan Relations Act.

Since the TTRA and the 6 Assurance signed into law (well, officially informed) by the US Congress, the Taiwan Reactions Act are and will put into use and in any case if China were to invade Taiwan, the acts will be invoked and US is then required to send Military Assistance to help Taiwan with their defence.

But there are 2 points I want to mention under TTRA. The first point being US are require to make themselves useful in
the event if China attack Taiwan, but the question is this, the quantity and sufficiency is to be determined by the President of the United States and the Congress. Basically it is up to both party to determine what is "Sufficient" it could range from a platoon of US Soldier stationed in Japan or the whole 7th Fleet station in Japan, or the whole Pacific fleet stationed in Pearl Harbor to a total mobilization of all US Armed Forces, including Nuclear battery. The question is, it rest solely on the President and the Congress, which basically depend on both party view on the issue.

The second point being the TTRA specifically mention in the event of Chinese Aggression. Now what if Chinese uses a third party and raise a proxy war with Taiwan? The TTRA would not been able to invoke as it was written with China and China only in mind.

It is because of these two point, US have the responsibility to defend Taiwan, but also wiggle room on this Treaty.

 

[black-hawk_101]

I think soon Taiwan will look towards acquiring more Mirage-2000s as spares from South America and as a full aircraft from France which has about 150 of them or may be looking to take license production of EF-2000s or Rafaels.

 

[Aepsilons]

Name of the beasts shown in last picture ?

AAV-P7/A1

 

[jhungary]

islands biggest dis-advantage is they have no strategic depth, their jet will be targeted as soon as they take off by PLA land based and sea based SAM, and that's assuming they still have an airport to take-off from.

The US know its already impossible to keep PLA off the island off Taiwan, they have no choice but to let PLA land, and hope to last until USA send reinforcement. that's why lots of equipment from the latest arms sale are mostly for anti-armor warfare.

lol. NO.

Island have their own strategic depth on the account of you cannot launch an attack until you traverse the sea and land your troop inland.

Individual soldier cannot swim from China to Taiwan and attack using what they have in hand. In term of Military Science. The attacker have to put all its troop in transport (Either sea or air) to transport their own troop to and from the island in order to attack them.

Now, when you take casualty at this point, you lost a bunch of soldier instead of one. If a transport plane got shot down, there goes 40-90 soldiers, if a transport ship got sunk, there goes 500 to 1000 soldier with their equipment or maybe 40 tanks. 1 Missile hitting a transport plane in air which killed 40 guys with the plane than when they unload which would mean the sole casualty is that transport plane itself, that is call "Force Multiplication" and that would give Taiwan an imaginary strategic depth.

Now, another point is, how much you can support for an amphibious operation also count toward the defence depth of an Island, you have 2 million troop ready to cross the channel does not mean you can ship all 2 millions troop together in one go. Say China can ship and support 100,000 troop over the channel every trip (which is greatly estimated Chinese ability as even US can do 250,000) That mean the first 100,000 troop would have to face the whole Taiwanese defence force alone in their section. Then when the second wave arrived, the Taiwanese could reinforce their garrison already. The attacker on an Island Assault is and always going to feed their troop to the enemy in piecemeal.

With Air/Sea interdiction, you can hamper the effort of the defender ability to reinforce and supply their defence facing you, but as said, Chinese Air Force is only slightly better in term of quality and quantity than the ROCAF (With ground air defence) The PLAAF would not enjoy Air supremacy for sure, not even Air Superiority, only maybe Local Superiority.

Name of the beasts shown in last picture ?

The LAV?