T-80 and T-84 Main Battle Tanks Information pool

[Signalian]

You must realize something,

1) The offensive armour is always at a disadvantage, simply because it is exposed.

2) Armour does not necessarily need armour to defeat it. Anti-tank rockets / missiles can be sufficient to a very great extent.

My point is replacing war time losses in armour units.

3 squadrons in an armour regiment, 45 tanks. Say in a war the strength reduced to 35 after two days. To bring it to full strength again, quantity is required to replace losses. This armour regiment may be used as offensive , defensive, deception or flanking force, it cannot function fully without compromise unless its full strength.

PA already has smaller contingent of armour forces in its armoured divisions, 5 regiments. 4 of the armour regiments are in 2 brigades, the 5th regt is directly under div control or can be assigned to a brigade. In order to bolster the division strength, an independent armoured brigade group is attached with the armoured division in war time, but the best utilization of an independent armoured brigade group is to use it separately from armoured division ops so the enemy can keep guessing where it might show up on the battlefield.
IA armoured div has 7 regiments atleast in an armoured div plus other independent armoured brigades of the Corps.

To continue the tempo of an armoured thrust, tank replacements of same type become important too, if T-80 losses are replaced by Type-59 II then ammunition of 105mm and spare parts will become logistics burden. The other reserves are M48A5.

 

[Signalian]

At the most basic level, the soviet/ Russian version was the refinement of object 219, commonly known as the T-80, while the Ukrainians were tasked with the diesel version of this variant. Later, the Kharkov plant took a much different route with indigenous improvements to armour, FCS, apu, engine/ transmission, main gun, ammo and even optics were improved, replaced.

The resulting tank was named as Object 478, while the Pakistani version is a further refinement of the said tank, the object 478BE. A word of advice, the t-80 has many variants much like the t-72/90. So it would be better to do some serious research before sharing false information that is widespread on the internet.

Glad you agree the refinement part. My point exactly, every tank in PA inventory is upgraded from its basic level.
T-59 upgraded from basic level to T-59 II to AZ
T-85 upgraded from basic level to Type-85II to Type-85 III
M-48 upgraded from basic level to M-48 A5
T-69 upgraded from basic level to Type-69 II

Customizing or upgrading a T-80 from its basic level to UD standard is not impossible. Strip off the un necessary, put on the necessary items and get it going. Thats what PA has done already on all tanks. Getting a stripped off tank, putting in new diesel engine and other improvements is faster and cheaper especially if the same type is already in use.

 

[Blue Marlin]

oplot m factory

 

[phantomrush]

Ukraine can not build 49 tanks to Thailand for 6 years. Over the last 2 years they have sent 5 tanks.
About a hundred OplotM can we talk?

 

[T-55]

Autoloader of T-80

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

 

[Army research]

Question is the pak army t-80 ud any good against arjun or t-90 statistically

 

[princefaisal]

Better to get only TOT of Oplot M tank from Ukraine

 

[Beast]

Better to get only TOT of Oplot M tank from Ukraine

Thailand has give up buying more T-84 and opt for China VT-4. More or less show you how good and the production of Ukraine.

 

[Zarvan]

Thailand has give up buying more T-84 and opt for China VT-4. More or html show you how good and the production of Ukraine.

We bought T-80 from Ukraine and we really love it and even in AL KHALID many are Ukrainian parts including engine as for Thailand I think you don't know the latest news.
http://defence-blog.com/army/ukrain...-m-main-battle-tanks-for-royal-thai-army.html

@Dazzler @kaonalpha @DESERT FIGHTER

 

[Kaavinsky]

Thank you for these images sir.

 

[Army research]

We bought T-80 from Ukraine and we really love it and even in AL KHALID many are Ukrainian parts including engine as for Thailand I think you don't know the latest news.

@Dazzler @kaonalpha @DESERT FIGHTER

we do love in armoured corps in 90s the first to get t 80 they love it like literally love the exhaust out out of it and say its the best tank in the world better
Than abrams the American tank as they tested it indoors of zia but can in defeat t 90 of India statistically or give it a challenge

we do love in armoured corps in 90s the first to get t 80 they love it like literally love the exhaust out out of it and say its the best tank in the world better
Than abrams the American tank as they tested it indoors of zia but can in defeat t 90 of India statistically or give it a challenge

I know some one who served in 80 90 2005 in armored corps with T 80

 

[Oleg]

Hi, im new here. Nice forum you have, and after reading it i find that you are nice people.

I know you need Oplot cause your already have fleet of T-80UD's. But consider looking at our modernized T-64E. Its very cost-effective tank. Personally i myself wish our ukrainian military ordered them instead of pricey Oplots.

 

[Hell hound]

Hi, im new here. Nice forum you have, and after reading it i find that you are nice people.

I know you need Oplot cause your already have fleet of T-80UD's. But consider looking at our modernized T-64E. Its very cost-effective tank. Personally i myself wish our ukrainian military ordered them instead of pricey Oplots.

welcome to the forum bro hope you enjoy your stay here

 

[Dazzler]

Thailand has give up buying more T-84 and opt for China VT-4. More or less show you how good and the production of Ukraine.

Ukraine was the hub of soviet armor industry for almost a century. They know how to build and design an mbt from scratch. Dont compare apples with oranges.