T-80 and T-84 Main Battle Tanks Information pool

[kingQamaR]

VT4 52 tonnes isn’t massive at all for an entire MBT.what’s the thickness of frontal armour

 

[CrazyZ]

Not happening, not possible to do either. The auto-loader is not the problem. APS is a better solution and PA is already working on that.
Haider (not Al-Haider) is what we already see in the PA, the VT4s. No more changes for now or the near future, but we will see upgrades to them eventually as part of the Haider program. (Which mind you PAs VT-4s are far different to the VT4s being exported to other nations).

If the carousel autoloader is to be kept then extra ammunition is best stored in the turret bustle behind blast panels (T-90M is this way).......or the turret should be unmanned (like Abrams X).

 

[iLION12345_1]

If the carousel autoloader is to be kept then extra ammunition is best stored in the turret bustle behind blast panels (T-90M is this way).......or the turret should be unmanned (like Abrams X).

Which is exactly what I said, the former method is still somewhat feasible down the line for the VT4, the latter is not. The ammo is not stored in the turret, it’s stored in the hull.

 

[iLION12345_1]

VT4 52 tonnes isn’t massive at all for an entire MBT.what’s the thickness of frontal armour

Thickness and layout is unknown.

Both turret and Hull frontal protection exceeds 800MM of armor against BTA-4 when equipped with FY-II. With FY-IV it would be higher, exceeding 900-950MM, against Indian BM-42 1000MM+.

(The source for this is leaks and Thai trials, where the frontal armor of VT-4 was rated at 8xx MM for both turret and hull frontally when hit with BTA-4. We also know that FY-IV reduces the penetration of APFSDS rounds by 30-35%, so factoring that we can assume 900-950MM).

Keep in mind these are largely meaningless and extremely rough guesstimates. Real life scenarios have far too many factors to just explain a way with numbers like these.

 

[kingQamaR]

Thickness and layout is unknown.

Both turret and Hull frontal protection exceeds 800MM of armor against BTA-4 when equipped with FY-II. With FY-IV it would be higher, exceeding 900-950MM, against Indian BM-42 1000MM+.

(The source for this is leaks and Thai trials, where the frontal armor of VT-4 was rated at 8xx MM for both turret and hull frontally when hit with BTA-4. We also know that FY-IV reduces the penetration of APFSDS rounds by 30-35%, so factoring that we can assume 900-950MM).

Keep in mind these are largely meaningless and extremely rough guesstimates. Real life scenarios have far too many factors to just explain a way with numbers like these.

Very good information…. Keep up the the good work bro

Just one final thing. I noticed on some videos I watched when smoke pops out from VT4 tank gun when it fires a shot . Unlike its western tanks no smoke comes out of their gun when they fire.

Is their a reason for this, thanks.

 

[time pass]

Can anyone furnish the inventory of the following:

AK & AK1
VT4
Haider

 

[Signalian]

1. Abrams type design needed.

2. Ambitious assessment.

Al-Khalid tank (Type 90-IIM / MBT-2000) Information Pool

In the base model Al Khalid, The gunner has a second generation thermal sight (Catherine FC) along with his normal day sight. The commander has an independent, stabilized and magnified day and night panoramic sight with second generation IIT (night vision) but no thermal sight of his own. He can...

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3. Abrams type design needed.

USA purchased a few T-80s for evaluation against M1 Abrams

 

[alimobin memon]

USA purchased a few T-80s for evaluation against M1 Abrams

What was the conclusion ? did T80 fared well against M1 Abrams and what variant of Abram ?

USA purchased a few T-80s for evaluation against M1 Abrams

What was the conclusion ? did T80 fared well against M1 Abrams and what variant of Abram ?

 

[syed_yusuf]

USA purchased a few T-80s for evaluation against M1 Abrams

which M1 version?

 

[Signalian]

Not bought, sorry.

Also in 1992, the UK bought a number of T-80U tanks for defence research and development through a specially created trading company intended to deliver these to Morocco, offering five million USD each.

After being evaluated on their proving grounds one was transferred to the US, tested at Aberdeen Proving Ground (and later four Ukrainian T-80UD MBTs). Weak spots and flaws were duly noted. This was officially confirmed in January 1994 by the MOD.

 

[FOOLS_NIGHTMARE]

T-80UD tank somewhere in the Pakistan Army Southern Command AOR

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

T-80UD tank somewhere in the Pakistan Army Southern Command AOR

KTP, Southern Punjab.

 

[Sifar zero]

Since Pakistan is going through hard times and our forex reserves are at a record low I have an idea that would bring us precious forex.
Since all of you are aware of the ongoing Russia-Ukraine conflict and also must be aware that Ukraine is requesting tanks from its allies but NATO is reluctant to send tanks.
And that's where we come in we could sell our 320 T-80ud's to Ukraine probably for 3 mil each that would get us an estimated one billion dollars.
And Ukrainian's are already familiar with the T-80UD's training and operation.

 

[Cookie Monster]

Since Pakistan is going through hard times and our forex reserves are at a record low I have an idea that would bring us precious forex.
Since all of you are aware of the ongoing Russia-Ukraine conflict and also must be aware that Ukraine is requesting tanks from its allies but NATO is reluctant to send tanks.
And that's where we come in we could sell our 320 T-80ud's to Ukraine probably for 3 mil each that would get us an estimated one billion dollars.
And Ukrainian's are already familiar with the T-80UD's training and operation.

Ukraine would be unable to pay for them. All the equipment being sent to Ukraine is being financed by US and Western Europe for the most part. If they pay for it..then yeah that could work.

 

[Sifar zero]

Ukraine would be unable to pay for them. All the equipment being sent to Ukraine is being financed by US and Western Europe for the most part. If they pay for it..then yeah that could work.

Yes I meant the US or other western powers.
Since the UK is already buying ammo for POF they could also buy the T-80UD'S.