T-55 of serbian army to Pakistan FC?

[Pakistani Fighter]

RPGs

Will they be effective against these T55s?

 

[Signalian]

280 x Tanks can form up an Armored Division. The presence of an "Armored Division" creates a psychological impact of its own on the adversary. FC's very own - Armored Division

......... that tanks are for FC and they will be posted in mountains?

if Mobile firepower is required in mountains, whats your take on that ? Gunships are not sufficient in numbers.
VT5 is a Chinese Tank used for mountain warfare.T-55 is around 36+ Tons. HP is a bit low for high speeds. Mountains are not that steep like in Kashmir, no dense vegetation on them too. Other Armored vehicles are lighter in armor (weaponized hilux and M-113) and don't carry heavy caliber weapon for direct fire power. 106mm RR Gun on a 4x4 is possible, yes, but crew is exposed and Tanks create a psychological effect, the whole damn ground shakes and the tunnels/dugouts cave in when tanks roll near them. ATGM are expensive. RPG range is limited, 600-700 meters, where as Rifled Gun like 105mm L-7 on upgraded T-55 can effectively fire 1.5-2 kms with good accuracy to take out enemy from a distance. Static pill-boxed firepower from tank is also not bad in certain conditions.

Such procurement makes no sense for a country like Pakistan. Operational costs of T55 would be same, if not more than any modern tank...

If it saves lives of FC soldiers, its worth it. Effective and heavy Firepower from Tanks, Gunships, Artillery and Aircrafts is always welcome.

 

[khanasifm]

Hi

280 x Tanks can form up an Armored Division. The presence of an "Armored Division" creates a psychological impact of its own on the adversary. FC's very own - Armored Division

if Mobile firepower is required in mountains, whats your take on that ? Gunships are not sufficient in numbers.
VT5 is a Chinese Tank used for mountain warfare.T-55 is around 36+ Tons. HP is a bit low for high speeds. Mountains are not that steep like in Kashmir, no dense vegetation on them too. Other Armored vehicles are lighter in armor (weaponized hilux and M-113) and don't carry heavy caliber weapon for direct fire power. 106mm RR Gun on a 4x4 is possible, yes, but crew is exposed and Tanks create a psychological effect, the whole damn ground shakes and the tunnels/dugouts cave in when tanks roll near them. ATGM are expensive. RPG range is limited, 600-700 meters, where as Rifled Gun like 105mm L-7 on upgraded T-55 can effectively fire 1.5-2 kms with good accuracy to take out enemy from a distance. Static pill-boxed firepower from tank is also not bad in certain conditions.


If it saves lives of FC soldiers, its worth it. Effective and heavy Firepower from Tanks, Gunships, Artillery and Aircrafts is always welcome.

Where does it states that these yanks are meant for FC?

I means what is the basis of this assumption or it was part of news ?? Identifying FC

last time Fc kpk and Baluchistan got HIt modified t-59/69 from pak army stock I regiment each of 44 tanks per modp report

These were assigned to various units in the form tank troop of anywhere from 4-6 I think

 

[Signalian]

Hi​

Where does it states that these yanks are meant for FC?

I means what is the basis of this assumption or it was part of news ?? Identifying FC

last time Fc kpk and Baluchistan got HIt modified t-59/69 from pak army stock I regiment each of 44 tanks per modp report

These were assigned to various units in the form tank troop of anywhere from 4-6 I think

I just read the posts from previous pages, so i am really not sure.

Assumption can be based on further speculation:
1. T-69 were not upgraded to AZ so handed over to FC.
2. All T-59 to be upgraded to AZ for frontline duty with PA, so no Tanks available for FC
3. If FC needs to be further equipped, then T-55 or further T-59 from China, stand as options.
4. If PA wants more cheap tanks, it can also buy T-59 from China and upgrade to AZ to induct in its regiments, but AK-I are also being inducted side by side, so time frame could be same for new induction of older T-59 ~AZ and AK-I.

It will be interesting to see which engine specs these T-55 will be powered by, if induction occurs.

 

[Pandora]

i said scrap... didn't mentioned army or FC. Now go buy some spectacles.

These scraps are best suited for hilly terrain and perfect to counter threat of terrorists from Afghanistan and Iran. You dont need to be hi tech to deal with those savages. Also this deal was approved during Nawaz reign not IK but for some reason you have compulsive disorder to insert his name everywhere. Pakistan didn't came into existence two year back get over yourself.

there are certain segment of society who will blame IK even if Qayamat occur today, their 'reason' would be simple "Mian Shaib the tu Qayamat nahi ayei", bring SS he is smart enough to overturn Qayamat as well

For All Other Sensible Members: Rumour of this deal first surface in 2015, links to this news/rumour click here and here, and for non-sensible members I don't need to remind them who was in Government in that year

Well you cant blame them bcz Pakistan came into existence two years back. So being the first PM of Pakistan he needs to take all the $hit bcz he took to drain all the sacrifices of our ancestors. In two years he looted like there is no tomorrow and took debt to fill his own pockets. In two years he turned every bureaucrat and Pakistan awam into Haramkhor who can't live without haramkhori every now and then. It is all fault of Imran khan bcz of his aven field apartments and surrey palace. Look at all the fake bank account and money laundering he has done ever since pakistan came into existence. If you still think IK isnt the one then you need to get your head checked mate.

 

[Cuirassier]

I just read the posts from previous pages, so i am really not sure.

Assumption can be based on further speculation:
1. T-69 were not upgraded to AZ so handed over to FC.
2. All T-59 to be upgraded to AZ for frontline duty with PA, so no Tanks available for FC
3. If FC needs to be further equipped, then T-55 or further T-59 from China, stand as options.
4. If PA wants more cheap tanks, it can also buy T-59 from China and upgrade to AZ to induct in its regiments, but AK-I are also being inducted side by side, so time frame could be same for new induction of older T-59 ~AZ and AK-I.

It will be interesting to see which engine specs these T-55 will be powered by, if induction occurs.

Chief, all major combat operations at Western Front ended with Rajgal in '17. FC wouldn't be needing more tanks considering the Type 69s already available. This news is baloney, was disproved before too.

 

[Pandora]

280 x Tanks can form up an Armored Division. The presence of an "Armored Division" creates a psychological impact of its own on the adversary. FC's very own - Armored Division


if Mobile firepower is required in mountains, whats your take on that ? Gunships are not sufficient in numbers.
VT5 is a Chinese Tank used for mountain warfare.T-55 is around 36+ Tons. HP is a bit low for high speeds. Mountains are not that steep like in Kashmir, no dense vegetation on them too. Other Armored vehicles are lighter in armor (weaponized hilux and M-113) and don't carry heavy caliber weapon for direct fire power. 106mm RR Gun on a 4x4 is possible, yes, but crew is exposed and Tanks create a psychological effect, the whole damn ground shakes and the tunnels/dugouts cave in when tanks roll near them. ATGM are expensive. RPG range is limited, 600-700 meters, where as Rifled Gun like 105mm L-7 on upgraded T-55 can effectively fire 1.5-2 kms with good accuracy to take out enemy from a distance. Static pill-boxed firepower from tank is also not bad in certain conditions.


If it saves lives of FC soldiers, its worth it. Effective and heavy Firepower from Tanks, Gunships, Artillery and Aircrafts is always welcome.

I think Pakistan has been using tanks as static firing positions along afghan border for some time now. They were seen during our standoffs with ANA with border fencing. I guess the primary aim of these procurements is to put fear in Afghani soldiers.

 

[Blacklight]

Whats ANA

Afghan Nonexistent Army

Appreciate your post we Pakistanis do like to procure hardware secretly so not to alert our foe who has a deeper pocket.

and screams like a Dehati Aurat due to a vacuum between the ears.

FC to seize Kandahar and Jalalabad according to some brilliant whistle-blowers on PDF. Cmon

We dont need to, The party that controls 90% of Afgh are old friends

where as Rifled Gun like 105mm L-7 on upgraded T-55 can effectively fire 1.5-2 kms with good accuracy to take out enemy from a distance

Would 8X8 wheeled light tank be more suitable with a 120mm?

 

[ziaulislam]

Will they be effective against these T55s?

I doubt it will work

 

[Signalian]

Would 8X8 wheeled light tank be more suitable with a 120mm?

"Light" doesnt go well with PA. Wheeled also not except MRAP. 120mm gun is next to impossible.

Chief, all major combat operations at Western Front ended with Rajgal in '17. FC wouldn't be needing more tanks considering the Type 69s already available. This news is baloney, was disproved before too.

K-2 design, Altay design is what i would have preferred.

Have you seen T-59 from a distance coming towards you or going away in cloud of dust mixed with oil smell ? it looks a baby elephant running here and there. If you see a T-80 UD and AK after that, they look like behemoths coming and they are faster too.

 

[Affanakad0t.]

Afghan Nonexistent Army

XD

 

[Safriz]

FC needs protection and fire power in Balochistan and Iran borders.
It's unfair to send someone's husband , son or brother to die by the hands of better equipped Baloch terrorists , or drunk in supremacy complex Iranian border guards.
F C casualties have been very high.
It will be good news if these tanks are for FC Balochistan.

 

[Gryphon]

Army should look for surplus BMP-2s, the most convenient way for raising a sizable IFV fleet.

 

[Maxpane]

FC needs protection and fire power in Balochistan and Iran borders.
It's unfair to send someone's husband , son or brother to die by the hands of better equipped Baloch terrorists , or drunk in supremacy complex Iranian border guards.
F C casualties have been very high.
It will be good news if these tanks are for FC Balochistan.

sir i think drone in the ajr for surveillance and tanks on the surface would be a good option

 

[Signalian]

I think Pakistan has been using tanks as static firing positions along afghan border for some time now. They were seen during our standoffs with ANA with border fencing. I guess the primary aim of these procurements is to put fear in Afghani soldiers.

Yes.
Chotoo sa tank hay but carries a powerful cannon with HE rounds. Militants also feared AH-1 and MBT in past coin wars.

Army should look for surplus BMP-2s, the most convenient way for raising a sizable IFV fleet.

VIPER- commonality in most parts. Drivers trained already.